Wyden tells Obama mass collection of records "must end"

[Warlord]

President Obama told key members of Congress on Thursday that he was "open to suggestions" for reforming the National Security Agencysurveillance (http://www.theguardian.com/world/surveillance) programs that have embroiled his administration in controversy.

Ron Wyden, the Oregon Democrat who is among the Senate's leading critics of the NSA's bulk phone records collection (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/12/senator-ron-wyden-white-house-data-collection), said he left a meeting at the White House confident that "constructive" changes to the programs would soon take shape.

"The president said, and I accept what he said, that he was open to suggestions," Wyden told the Guardian after the White House meeting. "And I smiled and said, 'You all are going to get a number of them from me."

Wyden said he "just plain out said" to Obama that the NSA (http://www.theguardian.com/world/nsa)'s bulk ongoing collection of hundreds of millions of Americans' phone records "must end".

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/01/barack-obama-congress-nsa-reform-meeting

[fearthereaperx]

And then Obama replied: "We'll(stone) look into it"

[Warlord]

And then Obama replied: "We'll(stone) look into it"

I wouldn't trust him put it that way.

[presence]

So when it "ends" should we all get new sceen names or something?

[Anti Federalist]

Yeah, dawg, Imma get right on that.

http://showbams.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/obama-getting-high1.jpg?w=610&h=451

[Warlord]

So when it "ends" should we all get new sceen names or something?

Wyden is talking about the collection of phone records only I think! They're not giving up their internet snooping

[Anti Federalist]

Wyden is talking about the collection of phone records only I think! They're not giving up their internet snooping

LOL- They ain't giving up any of it, until we storm the gates and smash the system, like they did to the DDR Stasi offices when the Berlin Wall fell.

Any bullshit about "reform" is just that, bullshit.

Remember when they told us that "Total Information Awareness" had been "canceled"?

Bluffdale, Utah.

[Warlord]

LOL- They ain't giving up any of it, until we storm the gates and smash the system, like they did to the DDR Stasi offices when the Berlin Wall fell.

Any bullshit about "reform" is just that, bullshit.

Remember when they told us that "Total Information Awareness" had been "canceled"?

Bluffdale, Utah.

I think there's a good chance they might stop using the FISA court to go after everyone's phone records.

We'll see.

[Anti Federalist]

Ron Wyden, the Oregon Democrat who is among the Senate's leading critics of the NSA's bulk phone records collection, said he left a meeting at the White House confident that "constructive" changes to the programs would soon take shape.

Annnnd cue "Laughing Jack":

http://25.media.tumblr.com/1a36f63d61b4bad44244164a51c333c0/tumblr_mj0sbwVxPx1r4ugi5o1_500.gif

[Anti Federalist]

I think there's a good chance they might stop using the FISA court to go after everyone's phone records.

So what?

They'll just re-route around some "extra legal, double secret" back channels and be back scooping up everything before Wyden got back to his office.

I mean, yeah, sure, I appreciate the effort, but come on..."meaningful reforms".

Don't make me post laughing Jack again. ;)

[Anti Federalist]

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[VBRonPaulFan]

So what?

They'll just re-route around some "extra legal, double secret" back channels and be back scooping up everything before Wyden got back to his office.

I mean, yeah, sure, I appreciate the effort, but come on..."meaningful reforms".

Don't make me post laughing Jack again. ;)

I agree, we won't see these programs end until the data centers and programs they use to do this shit are publicly destroyed.