Oakland,CA wants to ban hammers, wrenches, tripods, walking canes, rakes....

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

http://www.naturalnews.com/041399_Oakland_hammers_weapons_ban.html


Forget "gun control." That's old news. The city of Oakland, California now wants to ban any object that could be used as a "tool of vandalism," including hammers, wrenches, slingshots, shields and presumably anything else with a blunt edge such as garden rakes or sticks.

It's all part of Oakland's response to recent protests in which angry mobs of people caused significant damage to local businesses (because angry mobs tend to loot and burn their own neighborhoods first).

So the Oakland City Council is considering a proposed ordinance that would criminalize the possession of everyday objects, including objects of professional tradesmen such as hammers, large screwdrivers, walking canes and mechanic's tools.

The city claims these objects will be illegal to possess during a "protest," but a protest can be defined as any two people standing around, or walking down a street, or even just talking loudly. There is no official definition of a "protest," meaning the police can invoke the ordinance any time they wish. That's how these laws always go: they get interpreted and deployed far beyond their original intent.

Police need more tools, but tools of the people should be criminalized

In a local CBS story, Oakland Councilman Noel Gallo attempted to explain why he wanted to criminalize hammers by saying, "the Oakland Police Department needs additional tools to help protect life and property in our city." The word "tools" might have been a poor choice, of course, since the proposed ordinance would outlaw nearly all common tools include plumber's wrenches and even video tripods used by journalists.

The proposed banning of shields is especially interesting, given that more protesters are routinely harmed by Oakland police than by other protesters. The message from the Oakland City Council is: You are not allowed to protect yourself from police. You must allow yourself to be openly shot, punched or sprayed with pepper spray, or else you will be arrested and then punched and pepper-sprayed while in handcuffs.

Natural News wonders if Oakland will soon ban rocks, bottles and fists, as such devices are also known to inflict damage during protests. Perhaps Noel Gallo will request that all protesters have their hands chopped off so that they cannot hold shields nor wield "weapons of destruction" such as hammers and wrenches.

This would create the perfect utopia for control freak government worshippers who want the police to have military weapons and armored cars while the People have all their arms and hands chopped off so they cannot, literally, "bear arms."

The now-famous Leopard Pimp Daddy from Philadelphia completely agrees with this, as he has suggested all sharp objects be outlawed across the country including kitchen knives and construction nails. See his rationale for all this in the following video which has gone viral all over the 'net:




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNb34vPqrN0

[Brian4Liberty]

It's all part of Oakland's response to recent protests in which angry mobs of people caused significant damage to local businesses (because angry mobs tend to loot and burn their own neighborhoods first).

The majority of these vandals are not Oakland residents. They are out of town anarcho-syndicalists and communists.

[cajuncocoa]

other tools of vandalism: paint (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/29/washington-cathedral-statue-green-paint-vandalism/2597167/), maple syrup (http://www.wfmz.com/news/news-regional-southeasternpa/maple-syrup-used-to-vandalize-st-thomas-more-church/-/121434/20624984/-/33ywda/-/index.html), condiments, raw chicken, toilet paper (http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/showthread.php?63515-Mom-Tara-Mauney-Charged-For-Helping-Kids-Vandalize-Home-Causing-6-000-In-Damage), eggs, cooking oil (http://www.wsfa.com/story/22257911/eggs-cooking-oil-used-to-vandalize-bullock-co-high-school), plastic forks (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070516180933AAZ5JaM), glue, lotion, maxi pads, salmon (http://www.northfulton.com/Articles-CRIME-c-2013-07-19-199842.114126-sub-Womans-car-vandalized-with-toiletries.html).

Any others?

Get busy, Oakland.

[ZENemy]

Ya guys know, if we don't stop this machine there will be a time when making a FIST in front of a leader will get your head shot off.

[Origanalist]

Ya guys know, if we don't stop this machine there will be a time when making a FIST in front of a leader will get your head shot off.

Um, try that in front of a cop and see where it get's you......

[ZENemy]

Um, try that in front of a cop and see where it get's you......

Point taken, but soon, it will be the rule.

HR347 is the first step to making this true.

[Origanalist]

Point taken, but soon, it will be the rule.

HR347 is the first step to making this true.

Don't they already have some kind of "zone" around federal employees? I don't know, I think we're pretty much already there. This stuff is just legal dressing.

[69360]

other tools of vandalism: paint (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/29/washington-cathedral-statue-green-paint-vandalism/2597167/), maple syrup (http://www.wfmz.com/news/news-regional-southeasternpa/maple-syrup-used-to-vandalize-st-thomas-more-church/-/121434/20624984/-/33ywda/-/index.html), condiments, raw chicken, toilet paper (http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/showthread.php?63515-Mom-Tara-Mauney-Charged-For-Helping-Kids-Vandalize-Home-Causing-6-000-In-Damage), eggs, cooking oil (http://www.wsfa.com/story/22257911/eggs-cooking-oil-used-to-vandalize-bullock-co-high-school), plastic forks (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070516180933AAZ5JaM), glue, lotion, maxi pads, salmon (http://www.northfulton.com/Articles-CRIME-c-2013-07-19-199842.114126-sub-Womans-car-vandalized-with-toiletries.html).

Any others?

Get busy, Oakland.

You can thank Texas for pee, poo and used tampons.

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

The majority of these vandals are not Oakland residents. They are out of town anarcho-syndicalists and communists.


I think they call those agent provocateurs.

[ZENemy]

Don't they already have some kind of "zone" around federal employees? I don't know, I think we're pretty much already there. This stuff is just legal dressing.

Either way, it makes me want to throw up!

[Origanalist]

You can thank Texas for pee, poo and used tampons.

I don't think they are banned Statewide, just in the statehouse. But you can bring your guns. ;)

[pcosmar]

So, Dr. Frankenstein wants to ban pitchforks and torches.


color me surprised :rolleyes:

[DamianTV]

I think they call those agent provocateurs.

You mean they work for the Govt, but dress like thugs and behave like thugs so the people will cry out for Govt to outlaw what ever they use as a weapon?

Guns are not what pose a real threat to people. The intent to use the Gun is. The restrictions placed on the Govt is supposed to prevent outlawing Human Behavior. When Govt does start trying to outlaw Human Behavior, it will result in another version of the failed War on Drugs.

[FindLiberty]

He/She has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.

[torchbearer]

He/She has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.

it is time yet?

[aGameOfThrones]

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5cr2uKczt1rwcc6bo1_500.gif

[nobody's_hero]

The majority of these vandals are not Oakland residents. They are out of town anarcho-syndicalists and communists.

In other words they're still probably Californians, lol.

[Anti Federalist]

it is time yet?

Far past time, and here's what worse:

You actually have a few people starting to stand up and take real action, like Kokesh and Snowden.

And what happens?

They get thrown under the bus for it.

Crabs in the bucket, indeed.

"Shaddup! Pipe down! Get back down here! Yer' making us all look bad! Yer' ruining it for the rest of us!"

[nobody's_hero]

Far past time, and here's what worse:

You actually have a few people starting to stand up and take real action, like Kokesh and Snowden.

And what happens?

They get thrown under the bus for it.

Crabs in the bucket, indeed.

"Shaddup! Pipe down! Get back down here! Yer' making us all look bad! Yer' ruining it for the rest of us!"

'But but but that's not how you make friends and influence people.'

[torchbearer]

Far past time, and here's what worse:

You actually have a few people starting to stand up and take real action, like Kokesh and Snowden.

And what happens?

They get thrown under the bus for it.

Crabs in the bucket, indeed.

I was in prison today.(literally) ICE IT department. this whacked out gang had matching costumes and everything. since they were the gang currently in control of the facility- i helped fix some things for them. they work out of a fortress. but the prison was really nice. geo group. high class. i wanted to ask about booking a room.

[presence]

there will be a time
when making a FIST in front of a leader
will get your head shot off

Keyword: Gil Collar Fighting Stance

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/10/08/mom-ala-student-didnt-touch-officer-who-shot-him-officials-say-assumed-fighting/

[torchbearer]

what prison is adam being held in?

[presence]

what prison is adam being held in?

Fairfax County Adult Detention Center

[Brian4Liberty]

In other words they're still probably Californians, lol.

Probably. The "black bloc" people can come from pretty far away though.

[Brian4Liberty]

I think they call those agent provocateurs.

You never know. Would government agent provocateurs show up for unannounced Sunday night vandalism?

[heavenlyboy34]

note to self-bring samurai weapons and armor if ever in Oakland, CA. :cool:

[Czolgosz]

Fucking awesome. Faster we get to revolution, the better.

[Czolgosz]

http://www.naturalnews.com/041399_Oakland_hammers_weapons_ban.html




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNb34vPqrN0


Chris Christie @ 2:39.

[presence]

So, Dr. Frankenstein wants to ban pitchforks and torches.


color me surprised :rolleyes:


truly

[Anti Federalist]

Um, try that in front of a cop and see where it get's you......

We, including myself, forgot the "arrested for de-humanizing stares" kid.

[Anti Federalist]

'But but but that's not how you make friends and influence people.'

"If we just act pleasant and ask nicely, I'm sure the crabber will let us all go. I'm sure..."

[Neil Desmond]

It would be ruled unconstitutional (ideally): people have the constitutional right to peacably assemble & freedom of speech, etc., so they have the right to get together and to protest. There are already existing laws that make rioting, destroying property, etc. illegal, so there's no need to be redundant in such a way that's unconstitutional. I would imagine that there are those in the liberty movement who aren't fans of this idea, but there is such a thing as declaring martial law - which is just another reason to add to the list for why there's no reason for doing this.

To play even more of a devil's advocate: what about cars with two or more people? Cars can be used to plow into things and cause death & destruction too. They go far, but not far enough. In fact, why not put everyone under perpetual house arrest in such a way that only one person at a time can leave their homes (given that it's a two or more people thing)?