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Zym
11-27-2007, 05:03 PM
Turn on MSNBC. Tucker is on now, I'm not sure what order he comes on in.

Zym

constitutional
11-27-2007, 05:04 PM
My bet is probably at the end of the show. :)

Benaiah
11-27-2007, 05:08 PM
3 minutes before it ends.

thePhilosopher
11-27-2007, 05:10 PM
Youtube anyone? Danke.

Ron Paul Fan
11-27-2007, 05:10 PM
Dr. Paul is going to yell at Tucker on national tv!

Zym
11-27-2007, 05:11 PM
Tucker is a huge fan, on "Morning Joe" (MSNBC) this morning someone mentioned he had been to a rally. I think he will give him some time. This should be a good interview.

Taco John
11-27-2007, 05:14 PM
I don't trust Tucker.

BLS
11-27-2007, 05:15 PM
DId he say RP was going to WITH HIM? Or just talk about him.

American
11-27-2007, 05:17 PM
Tucker is a POS

Adamsa
11-27-2007, 05:20 PM
Tucker's great. :D

Without him, he'd hardly ever be on MSNBC.

Bertrand
11-27-2007, 05:20 PM
Oh, Tucker is harmless. He gives Ron Paul coverage and he's just a goofball.

voytechs
11-27-2007, 05:23 PM
Shoot, we have to put up with all the Hitlary nonsense. Just get the Ron Paul and end the show early Tucker, nothing else worth reporting.

AlexMerced
11-27-2007, 05:23 PM
I still like Tucker

garrettwombat
11-27-2007, 05:24 PM
is ron coming on also? whats up?

BLS
11-27-2007, 05:27 PM
F*&^ Tuck.

garrettwombat
11-27-2007, 05:28 PM
it just went to commercials and it didnt say antying about RP? whats going on?

Zym
11-27-2007, 05:29 PM
On Morning Joe this morning they said he was going to be on Tucker (Dr. Paul confirmed it).

V-rod
11-27-2007, 05:33 PM
I'm glad the MSM calls this type of crap "news". Clintonian... get the F out of here.

literatim
11-27-2007, 05:34 PM
Tucker is an ass who needs fired.


Oh, Tucker is harmless. He gives Ron Paul coverage and he's just a goofball.

Harmless? Tucker did lots of harm with his pimp friend.

Question_Authority
11-27-2007, 05:34 PM
I cannot believe people still like Tucker. He is a two faced, backstabbing, childish brat. He is out to undermine RP's campaign in a very insidious way.

SeanEdwards
11-27-2007, 05:35 PM
I don't trust Tucker.

Tucker is firmly on Paul's side, and admits it openly.

garrettwombat
11-27-2007, 05:36 PM
I'm glad the MSM calls this type of crap "news". Clintonian... get the F out of here.

just remember the MSM always blures the line between news and commentary. none of this is "news" tucker is commentary... the news is the headlines

AlexMerced
11-27-2007, 05:36 PM
I don't have cable, but the youtube clips I've seen so far havn't been so bad... I'm kinda cut off from the media, local papers and internet tends to be my window to the world

V-rod
11-27-2007, 05:37 PM
I doubt Tucker went out of his way to undermine RP. Judging from the way Tucker acts when he's not on his show, he seems a bit naive when he's out of his element.

literatim
11-27-2007, 05:37 PM
I doubt Tucker went out of his way to undermine RP. Judging from the way Tucker acts when he's not on his show, he seems a bit naive when he's out of his element.

What Tucker did is inexcusable.

NinjaPirate
11-27-2007, 05:38 PM
What Tucker did is inexcusable.

what are you talking about???

AlexMerced
11-27-2007, 05:39 PM
Again I think the whole Bunny Ranch thing will end up just raising curiousity instead of hurting which is a positive, only time will tell

literatim
11-27-2007, 05:40 PM
Again I think the whole Bunny Ranch thing will end up just raising curiousity instead of hurting which is a positive, only time will tell

It already hurt the campaign when people I know decided not to give Ron Paul the light of day because of that endorsement.

Danny Molina
11-27-2007, 05:40 PM
I think he means the Joel Stein interview.

user
11-27-2007, 05:41 PM
Maybe I didn't see it because I only saw the clip that was uploaded, but I don't remember them saying he'd be on Tucker's show. They just talked about the Tucker controversy.

AlexMerced
11-27-2007, 05:41 PM
well... I guess I live in a different crowd

RevolutionSD
11-27-2007, 05:42 PM
It already hurt the campaign when people I know decided not to give Ron Paul the light of day because of that endorsement.

I'm not a big tucker fan but the bunny ranch thing was harmless, if anything it gave us a little press we would not have otherwise had and peaked people's curiosity.

literatim
11-27-2007, 05:42 PM
I'm not a big tucker fan but the bunny ranch thing was harmless, if anything it gave us a little press we would not have otherwise had and peaked people's curiosity.

If it was harmless then my aunt would be a Ron Paul supporter right now.

rpfreedom08
11-27-2007, 05:43 PM
you tube at all?

Bertrand
11-27-2007, 05:44 PM
Well if that's what put her off, she wasn't really a supporter in the 1st place. It's not like Paul liked the guy or had anything to do with him. The neo-nazi stuff is far worse. Most people know that Paul is honorable and a couple prostitutes aren't going to diminish this image.

MsDoodahs
11-27-2007, 05:44 PM
Is he going to be on or not? I've not heard Tucker say anything yet. :confused:

SeanEdwards
11-27-2007, 05:45 PM
It already hurt the campaign when people I know decided not to give Ron Paul the light of day because of that endorsement.


Well that's too bad. Unfortunate that these people don't respect the concept of liberty. Prostitution is legal in Nevada where the brothel owner operates.

Your complaint is really an old one, and lots of people have made it. I've done it myself, complaining about the vocal Paul support by truthers. I've come to agree that it's really quite pointless and counter-productive to try and attack the motives of other Paul supporters. Just remind your friends that Paul endorses freedom. He doesn't endorse what individuals do with their freedom.

RevolutionSD
11-27-2007, 05:45 PM
If it was harmless then my aunt would be a Ron Paul supporter right now.

Your aunt is unreasonable if she jumped off the bandwagon because of one of Ron Paul's SUPPORTERS!

Does she know that KKK David Duke is also supporting Paul? Does THAT mean Paul is a racist??

AlexMerced
11-27-2007, 05:46 PM
I'm sure veryone is still watching in anticipation

Bergie Bergeron
11-27-2007, 05:46 PM
If it was harmless then my aunt would be a Ron Paul supporter right now.
Everyone in their right mind should look at the issues instead of the endorsements.

jonahtrainer
11-27-2007, 05:47 PM
If it was harmless then my aunt would be a Ron Paul supporter right now.

I won't say the question isn't harmless but it hits on an important issue. Dr. Paul, like all politicians, should have the tough questions put to them. Dr. Paul addressed the question in a logical and rational way according to his political philosophy. Sure, it'd be nice to duck the hard questions but this game isn't about that.

If you aunt doesn't support the philosophy then you may want to find out why. She probably has a conflicted philosophy of her own. Point it out and you may win her over. Our power lies in the strength of our arguments.

I've had several friends and family who initially opposed Dr. Paul's stance on the Drug War turn after we discussed the issue and I was able to remove the conflicts in their own philosophies.

literatim
11-27-2007, 05:47 PM
Double post.

literatim
11-27-2007, 05:48 PM
Well if that's what put her off, she wasn't really a supporter in the 1st place. It's not like Paul liked the guy or had anything to do with him.

She was borderline. She is the epitome of the entire base we are trying to reach. The hardcore Ron Paul supporters alone will not get him the nomination. I have to do damage control, imagine the numbers that won't have a resident Ron Paul supporter in their family to damage control.


The neo-nazi stuff is far worse. Most people know that Paul is honorable and a couple prostitutes aren't going to diminish this image.

No one from the local American National Socialist Party is officially endorsing Ron Paul. Not alone endorsing him at Ron Paul's own rally!

American
11-27-2007, 05:49 PM
If it was harmless then my aunt would be a Ron Paul supporter right now.

I dont like Tucker but if this is true then the freedom message doesnt work with this mindset.

Freedom is Freedom, the good, bad and the ugly.

Just show her this video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4578640723695582811

stefans
11-27-2007, 05:49 PM
you guys are totally missing the point. so someone's aunt does not understand the concept of liberty if she's driven away by that endorsement. so what? we still need her vote.

tucker does either not support ron paul and was using him for his own publicity or is completely stupid.

literatim
11-27-2007, 05:50 PM
I dont like Tucker but if this is true then the freedom message doesnt work with this mindset.

Freedom is Freedom, the good, bad and the ugly.

Just show her this video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4578640723695582811

Freedom is freedom, but Christians don't associate with pimps and prostitutes.

RevolutionSD
11-27-2007, 05:50 PM
right now they're talking about Romney.
Tucker puts Paul on last I think out of disrespect.

tsetsefly
11-27-2007, 05:51 PM
Freedom is freedom, but Christians don't associate with pimps and prostitutes.

jesus did....

crhoades
11-27-2007, 05:51 PM
Freedom is freedom, but Christians don't associate with pimps and prostitutes.

That's because they don't follow in Jesus' footsteps. ;)

Mark Rushmore
11-27-2007, 05:52 PM
jesus did....

good point

literatim
11-27-2007, 05:53 PM
jesus did....

Someone who repents and quits being a prostitute is not a prostitute any longer.


That's because they don't follow in Jesus' footsteps. ;)

Walking on water is kind of hard.

MsDoodahs
11-27-2007, 05:54 PM
jesus did....

Some people tend to forget that part, most unfortunately IMO. :)

Zym
11-27-2007, 05:54 PM
Here is a link to the morning Joe video from this morning that clearly states Dr. paul is going to be on. I have no idea past this. It sounded to me like everyone on the show (including Dr. Paul) agreed, and expected Dr. Paul to be there.

http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=138

I don't understand the concept of not supporting a candidate because their endorsements. Kerry was endorsed by both the sawed off little dictator from N. Korea Kim Jung Ill, and Huego Chavez from Venezuela. It didn't seem to bother his campaign. Paul didn't campaign in brothels, so I would suggest that *ONE* person you know to be swayed might not be representative of the general public making intelligent decisions.

Lord Xar
11-27-2007, 05:55 PM
Here is a link to the morning Joe video from this morning that clearly states Dr. paul is going to be on. I have no idea past this. It sounded to me like everyone on the show (including Dr. Paul) agreed, and expected Dr. Paul to be there.

http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=138

I don't understand the concept of not supporting a candidate because their endorsements. Kerry was endorsed by both the sawed off little dictator from N. Korea Kim Jung Ill, and Huego Chavez from Venezuela. It didn't seem to bother his campaign. Paul didn't campaign in brothels, so I would suggest that *ONE* person you know to be swayed might not be representative of the general public making intelligent decisions.

Who "is" morning joe and does he have a HUGE following? Or is this just a local talkshow host somewhere... I have never heard of him.

MsDoodahs
11-27-2007, 05:55 PM
Okay, Ron is NOT going to be on tonight, is he?

Grrrrr.

garrettwombat
11-27-2007, 06:00 PM
what the hell? he wasnt on...

Taco John
11-27-2007, 06:00 PM
Freedom is freedom, but Christians don't associate with pimps and prostitutes.


Jesus did.

(Luke 5:29-32) Then Levi held a great banquet for Jesus at his house, and a large crowd of tax collectors and others were eating with them. {30} But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law who belonged to their sect complained to his disciples, "Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and 'sinners'?" {31} Jesus answered them, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. {32} I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."

AMBurns
11-27-2007, 06:01 PM
The only time his name was mentioned was to poke fun. Great.

American
11-27-2007, 06:01 PM
Who "is" morning joe and does he have a HUGE following? Or is this just a local talkshow host somewhere... I have never heard of him.

Joe Scarborough ?

RevolutionSD
11-27-2007, 06:01 PM
No mention of Ron Paul other than the joke that Streisand would be endorsing him. grrr! :mad:

SeanEdwards
11-27-2007, 06:01 PM
jesus did....

This guy just won the thread.

bobmurph
11-27-2007, 06:02 PM
Ratings must be down...dropping RP name to no avail.

MSNBC = The network that cried "wolf"

crhoades
11-27-2007, 06:03 PM
Someone who repents and quits being a prostitute is not a prostitute any longer.

Walking on water is kind of hard.

Not going to argue biblical interpretation/theology with you online. PM me if you would like to discuss this further.

On another funny note - Jesus also hung out with people back in the day that were considered worse than prostitutes - TAX COLLECTORS!

Luk 7:30 but the Pharisees and the lawyers rejected the purpose of God for themselves, not having been baptized by him.)
Luk 7:31 "To what then shall I compare the people of this generation, and what are they like?
Luk 7:32 They are like children sitting in the marketplace and calling to one another, "'We played the flute for you, and you did not dance; we sang a dirge, and you did not weep.'
Luk 7:33 For John the Baptist has come eating no bread and drinking no wine, and you say, 'He has a demon.'
Luk 7:34 The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, 'Look at him! A glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!'
Luk 7:35 Yet wisdom is justified by all her children."

saahmed
11-27-2007, 06:03 PM
Tucker did this a few days ago too. Or maybe people on these forums hear the name Ron Paul and automatically assume that he will be on the show or there will be a piece on him.

Zym
11-27-2007, 06:04 PM
Who "is" morning joe and does he have a HUGE following? Or is this just a local talkshow host somewhere... I have never heard of him.

He's some former congressman with a morning show on MSNBC. Tuned in to him this morning for the first time after hearing on the board that Paul was coming up. It was a great interview, but evidently someone screwed up. Aaaarrggg... I've been waiting for this all day.

FreeTraveler
11-27-2007, 06:05 PM
I watched the Morning Joe vids, and I didn't see anything that said Ron would be on Tucker. He said they were going to have a meeting later and talk about Tucker; I think he meant "they" as his campaign staff.

jcbraithwaite7
11-27-2007, 06:05 PM
Isn't this the second time that Tucker has done this crap?

V-rod
11-27-2007, 06:06 PM
Turn on MSNBC. Tucker is on now, I'm not sure what order he comes on in.

Zym

Thanks! Those were 30minutes I would have rather stared at wall!

Jodi
11-27-2007, 06:07 PM
Thanks! Those were 30minutes I would have rather stared at wall!

LOL Thats too funny!!!

NinjaPirate
11-27-2007, 06:09 PM
Ooooo, that Barbara Streisand psych-out was cruel and unusual!!! :D

literatim
11-27-2007, 06:12 PM
This guy just won the thread.

How did he win anything? This discussion is about the damage that has been done to Ron Paul's campaign because of Tucker.

familydog
11-27-2007, 06:17 PM
What damage? One person decides that someone else makes her decisions for her? Media hit pieces are nothing new.

SeanEdwards
11-27-2007, 06:20 PM
How did he win anything? This discussion is about the damage that has been done to Ron Paul's campaign because of Tucker.

He won because with two words he put a slam dunk on your entire complaint. You apparently were complaining about the unchristiany aspect of whores, when in fact the christian messiah is a well-documented friend of whores.

It seems to be that you don't approve of the idea that whores might approve of Ron Paul. Maybe you should consider the possibility that other people might not approve of intollerant religious bigots, who don't understand the teachings of their own prophet, supporting Ron Paul either.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, and all that...

CelestialRender
11-27-2007, 06:35 PM
Tucker's a supporter. We really need to stop attacking him.

tsetsefly
11-27-2007, 06:37 PM
was he on, u tube?

megasooner
11-27-2007, 06:37 PM
Tucker fucked up big time with the brothel move. He's lost my trust completely. I want him off the campaign trail and Dr. Paul to distance himself from him considerably.

transistor
11-27-2007, 06:40 PM
tucker is a fucking scumbag. isn't he married? i bet she likes him hanging out with whores

literatim
11-27-2007, 06:42 PM
He won because with two words he put a slam dunk on your entire complaint. You apparently were complaining about the unchristiany aspect of whores, when in fact the christian messiah is a well-documented friend of whores.

Friends? Maybe of repented ex-prostitutes.


It seems to be that you don't approve of the idea that whores might approve of Ron Paul. Maybe you should consider the possibility that other people might not approve of intollerant religious bigots, who don't understand the teachings of their own prophet, supporting Ron Paul either.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, and all that...

I don't care who approves of Ron Paul, but I do care that Tucker attempted to sabotage Ron Paul's campaign by bringing a pimp and two prostitutes to Ron Paul's rally.

Noleader
11-27-2007, 06:43 PM
I think lots forget that Ron Paul will NEVER get the support in a primary from the religious right so long as Huck and company are in the mix. This story, granted not the best, is still gathering a lot of press time and as such is exposing folks to his name.

How many times have we clicked a link or opened a newspaper because the title left us asking "What the hell"? If anything, this article will get him more exposure and in turn drive people to find out what Ron Paul is all about. I think Tucker understands this concept and in his own way decided to try and get Dr. Paul some press with this stunt. If it was just a hit job he would have never got out of the limo with the owner.

nathanmn
11-27-2007, 06:57 PM
Wow, 8 pages of utter uselessness.

TVMH
11-27-2007, 07:02 PM
I won't say the question isn't harmless but it hits on an important issue. Dr. Paul, like all politicians, should have the tough questions put to them. Dr. Paul addressed the question in a logical and rational way according to his political philosophy. Sure, it'd be nice to duck the hard questions but this game isn't about that.

If you aunt doesn't support the philosophy then you may want to find out why. She probably has a conflicted philosophy of her own. Point it out and you may win her over. Our power lies in the strength of our arguments.

I've had several friends and family who initially opposed Dr. Paul's stance on the Drug War turn after we discussed the issue and I was able to remove the conflicts in their own philosophies.

Git yer voice of reason outta here...we don't need that kinda talk! :D

garrettwombat
11-27-2007, 07:16 PM
watched the Morning Joe vids, and I didn't see anything that said Ron would be on Tucker. He said they were going to have a meeting later and talk about Tucker; I think he meant "they" as his campaign staff.

your right i watched it this morning right when i woke up and they said nothing about being on tv tonight... they said they were going to have a meeting... but thats it... people need to open there ears.

i had to sit through tucker garbage and now im goign to go blow my brains out.

Wyurm
11-27-2007, 07:21 PM
Hmm, have any of you considered that we need the prostitute vote just as much as the extreme christian vote? We need all the votes, in fact, we even need Tucker's vote. So, when you put on the holier than thou attitude and begin talking trash about other American's no matter who they are, you are talking trash about our voters.

Regarding the aunt that was bothered by an endorsement, its already done, no sense in beating a dead horse and if she was bothered by something that small, I dread how she would have reacted when the REAL hit pieces start to fly after we win a few primary states. Remember Buchanan?

Oh, and because one of my own meetup members on this board decided to call me a troll because I suggested he not be so negative, I feel it necessary to ask that you try not to call me names just because I'm asking you to stop being so anti-everyone else. We desperately need to start being more positive if we are to win.

garrettwombat
11-27-2007, 07:23 PM
george washington slept with a prostitute...

voisine
11-27-2007, 07:23 PM
I think people should stop worrying about negative exposure. RP's message is solid. When they mention the pimp/whore support, it's outlandish enough that they'll ask him where he stands on it like they did on Morning Joe. His response was "We endorse freedom, not everything people decide to do with it", and compared it to freedom of religion. If you're Christian and support freedom of religion, that doesn't mean you are endorsing Joseph Smith or Muhamed.

Tina
11-27-2007, 07:29 PM
Freedom is freedom, but Christians don't associate with pimps and prostitutes.

conversive thinking: using terms but giving them opposing or twisted meanings. Examples: peacefulness - appeasement; freedom - license; initiative - arbitrariness; traditional - backward; rally - mob; efficiency - small-mindedness. Example: the words "peacefulness" and "appeasement" denote the same thing--a striving to establish peace, but have entirely different connotations which indicate the speaker's attitude toward this striving toward peace.

torchbearer
11-27-2007, 07:39 PM
at least we've learned to feed all the trolls in one thread... its easier to herd them in groups.