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airborne373
11-27-2007, 04:24 PM
Hello my name is Douglas Hostetler and I live in Indianapolis, Indiana where I sell real estate. Selling real estate is a tough business nowadays but not nearly as tough as living and working in the combat zone called Iraq. You see I wasn’t always a realtor in my younger days during the cold war I felt a need to join the U.S. Armed Forces so I talked to some recruiters, The Air Force, The Navy, My dad was a Marine in Vietnam so I skipped that recruiter (no offense “leathernecks”) and finally ended up signing with the Army. They offered me a chance to go to Airborne School after basic training and AIT and maybe become a paratrooper. Well as a 19 year old kid how could I pass? So off to FT. Knox I go to be trained as an armor crewman.

About five months later it’s time to go to FT. Benning, Georgia. I could write pages on that three week experience. It was a fantastic time and I was honored to join the Brotherhood of the Airborne. After graduating jump school the DOD sends me orders to report to the 82nd Airborne Division at FT. Bragg, North Carolina. Ok if you have been paying attention I was trained to operate tanks, so why am I going to a unit that jumps out of perfectly good airplanes?

Ft. Bragg was the home of the free world’s only Airborne Armor Unit, the 3rd Airborne BN, 73rd Armor Regiment. This is basically a forward recon unit with really big guns. Our unit would l.a.p.e.s. 17 ton Sheridan tanks from C-130’s ten feet from the dz at over 130 mph. In case you are curious no one was in the tank at the time. But this is a deadly serious business even in peace time. There is a video on my YT channel about the unit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ji5Y6b_lIs (This was one of my first vids so production quality is a little loose.)

As a paratrooper in this type of unit your entire life is about the unit and the mission.
The people you serve with become your best friends and family. These are the people you trust with your life and they each work very hard to earn that respect. I still value those relationships eighteen years later.

Last June the 3rd Squadron, 73rd Cavalry, the same unit but without the tanks, (Graham Rudman Act) deployed to Iraq. The Command Sergeant Major of this unit is my former platoon buddy from eighteen years ago, if you have never been in the military he is the mother and father of these young paratroopers. He is the one responsible for their lives. For the past few months I have been sending care packages of beef jerky, candy, DVD’s etc. My personal commitment was one 25lbs box per month these items are for the entire unit so it does not go far but they really appreciate this type of genuine support. So much so Command Sargent Major called me from Iraq to tell me how much it boosts the moral of these young troopers to know people back home have not forgotten them.

Recently however I have not been able to keep up with the costs. So I have sent nothing for the last 60 days. I thought it would be easy to get help to send care packages to the troops, right! Not so. I thought I could keep my personal feelings about the war to myself and ask pro-war civilians for donations and they would jump at the chance to do something so personal. I was wrong, apparently “supporting the troops” for these people extends only to putting magnetic stickers on their SUV’s.

So I am asking Ron Paul supporters to please donate. Please give what you can at the Chip In I have set up at: http://ronpaulsupportsourtroops.chipin.com/mypages/view/id/f9cee4118a9eedde

This is a great out reach to our combat troops to let them know Ron Paul believes in them.

I will be posting videos about this project at my YT channel if you would like to follow this effort please subscribe.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=airborne373

Thank you for reading.

Airborne, All The Way!

ctb619
11-27-2007, 04:30 PM
Are you including slim-jims in the care packages?

airborne373
11-27-2007, 04:34 PM
And a letter explaining that the money is coming from RP supporters. This is a three fold effort.

1.) MOST IMPORTANT- To genuinely help these troopers.

2.) Introduce Ron Paul

3.) Create media about this project.

DealzOnWheelz
11-27-2007, 04:37 PM
ANd bumper stickers how awesome would it be to see a youtube video of a tank in IRAQ with a ron paul bumper sticker on it

LFOD
11-27-2007, 04:42 PM
ANd bumper stickers how awesome would it be to see a youtube video of a tank in IRAQ with a ron paul bumper sticker on it

LOL! now that's an image.

ashlux
11-27-2007, 04:44 PM
LOL! now that's an image.

...an image that would be blurred out by any media. too bad the military likely prohibits such a thing :-)

DealzOnWheelz
11-27-2007, 04:46 PM
...an image that would be blurred out by any media. too bad the military likely prohibits such a thing :-)

But YOUTUBE DOESN'T

jacmicwag
11-27-2007, 04:47 PM
This is a good one guys - I just made the first donation for $25. Any matchers?

ashlux
11-27-2007, 04:52 PM
This is a good one guys - I just made the first donation for $25. Any matchers?

No, I had the first donation of $10.42 :-P

But, I think people should match you, not me! :-D

mavtek
11-27-2007, 04:56 PM
Ok bump, we can't always get what we want, but if we try sometimes, we get what we need. Send it to the meetups!

garrettwombat
11-27-2007, 04:58 PM
you really touched me with how the pro war people are all about supporting our troops but wont do something as thoughtfull and very easy as this... when my check clears ill send you some cash...

ashlux
11-27-2007, 04:58 PM
<joke>Wait, I'm confused. Is this stuff going to phony soldiers or to real soldiers?</joke>

hillertexas
11-27-2007, 05:04 PM
bump

mavtek
11-27-2007, 05:12 PM
BTW I sent $25 hope it helps!

jake
11-27-2007, 05:28 PM
dugg for the Rolling Stones ;)

good vid.

airborne373
11-27-2007, 05:36 PM
I can't thank you all enough. I beat my head against the wall asking many of my Bush friends for support they would say stuff like, "Doesn't the goverment pay for stuff like that." or say good for you and change the subject. It really hurt to get those reactions from people who claim to support this war and the troops.

False patriots is what they are. One must take action to be a true patriot.

************************************************** *******

lol. Yeah these guys are the "real" soldiers. I went ballistic the day that pig made those comments. You see the 3/73 relieved there counter part the 5th Sqd. 73 Cav.

Below is an article about the 5/73 which returned to bragg this summer when the 3/73 took their place:

http://www.newsobserver.com/505/story/567546.html

If you read it you will really understand how unforgivable people like rush limberger really are.

Anything to make life a little easier means everything.

Chip In page here:
http://ronpaulsupportsourtroops.chipin.com/ron-paul-supports-our-troops

Douglas

American
11-27-2007, 05:43 PM
WOW, OK, I'm going to ask a stupid question, you need $2.500 dollars for this?

How much of what goes where?

Kingfisher
11-27-2007, 05:47 PM
Bump

airborne373
11-27-2007, 05:48 PM
This unit has 300 hundred men and at least 10 months left in Iraq. They must pay for more stuff than you would imagine. Such as calls home, snacks, candy, tobacco, books, magazines, DVD's on and on. Postage is USPS Priority mail to Arab Emerites good deal because the post office only charges domestic rates but it still costs about $1.15 a pound.

I think you may be right $2500.00 in probably not enough. It all goes to the CSM of the 3/73 for distribution to the unit. There is no overhead.

These items also have unique value in the local economy there and is used to benefit these soldiers. Let your imagination work on that I don't want to go into specifics. But you may actually save some live(s) because of this.

krott5333
11-27-2007, 05:50 PM
great idea

American
11-27-2007, 05:52 PM
This unit has 300 hundred men and at least 10 months left in Iraq. They must pay for more stuff than you would imagine. Such as calls home, snacks, candy, tobacco, books, magazines, DVD's on and on. Postage is USPS Priority mail to Arab Emerites good deal because the post office only charges domestic rates but it still costs about $1.15 a pound.

I think you may be right $2500.00 in probably not enough. It all goes to the CSM of the 3/73 for distribution to the unit. There is no overhead.

These items also have unique value in the local economy there and is used to benefit these soldiers. Let your imagination work on that I don't want to go into specifics. But you may actually save some live(s) because of this.

I will repost this on a few big forums I am on, hopefully get you some traction with this. I think its great what you are doing, keep up the good work.

You are going to include some RP stickers, right?

Kingfisher
11-27-2007, 06:03 PM
Come on people. This is a good way to support the troops AND promote Ron Paul

noztnac
11-27-2007, 06:04 PM
Ron Paul should deliver the packages to the troops in person!!!!

He could also bring a few soccer balls.

Look here:
http://ericsgoal.blogspot.com/

Kingfisher
11-27-2007, 06:10 PM
334 views and 4 or 5 donations. Come on you can afford a few bucks.

Kingfisher
11-27-2007, 06:17 PM
Bump

PatriotOne
11-27-2007, 06:19 PM
I hope people aren't really donating for this. This forum is ripe for scam artists ya all. I apoligize Airborne if you are authentic but you have no way to prove it so I am sure you can understand why we SHOULD be skeptical.

airborne373
11-27-2007, 06:39 PM
Actually I have every way to prove it. Simply follow and look at the links I provided there is plenty of evidence that this is real and authentic I will also be posting the videos on my yt channel.

If you do not want to donate don't, but no one really needs your negativity particularly the troopers getting the benefits from this.

Also it is kinda low to make accusations.

airborne373
11-27-2007, 07:01 PM
Thanks "American"

Helping this go viral will make it happen.

Chip In here to support the troops.
http://ronpaulsupportsourtroops.chipin.com/ron-paul-supports-our-troops

Kingfisher
11-27-2007, 07:34 PM
Bump

ronpaulitician
11-27-2007, 07:43 PM
Also it is kinda low to make accusations.
Don't take it personally. There have been some suspicious "chip in" threads in the past. Best thing to do is get one of the more respected members here to vouch for you.

82ndVET4RP
11-27-2007, 07:52 PM
Airborne!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good job man! H-minus!

voortrekker
11-27-2007, 07:58 PM
If you will post your credentials in a photo on this thread, I'll give $100.

I need to know it's really going to our beloved troops.

Convince me.

deedles
11-27-2007, 08:06 PM
Sent 25.00. Seems legit to me.

Thank you for giving us the opportunity to help do such a nice thing.

Tell the soldiers we want them home.

Thanks

airborne373
11-27-2007, 08:13 PM
I know there are some bogus chip in's and they are pretty easy to spot. They have few if any reference links to videos, websites etc.

Within the RP community they will have meetup group numbers like 1300's and when you look at their meetup page they have like 8 members and no events.

Here are some of my credentials:

RP meetup:
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/90/

My YouTube channel started last year:
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=airborne373

Check out the Airborne Armor video (uploaded months ago) and read the comments from my brothers in arms. We are a very small community as this is an elite unit even within elite units found within the 82nd Airborne.
The Ron Paul Supports our Troops Chip In Page:
http://ronpaulsupportsourtroops.chipin.com/ron-paul-supports-our-troops

One of my fellow RP meetup members website, clink the a for action to the left of the home page: www.redheads4ronpaul.net


Plus I will be posting videos on my YT channel as this progress's so those who donate can see what THEY have accomplished.

Check out this picture anyone in the know understands only the 3/73 had the Sheridan tank and the 3/73 was one of the last units to wear the vietnam era OG107 uniform.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd49/airborne373/2ndpltbcoweblog.jpg

I am the tall one on the left, this picture was taken in 1986 or 7.

Kingfisher
11-27-2007, 08:17 PM
I can verify there is a Douglas Hostetler Real estate agent and auctioneer in Indianapolis In.

Kingfisher
11-27-2007, 08:25 PM
Bump

Corydoras
11-27-2007, 10:02 PM
Airborne, you also should sign up at
http://www.anysoldier.com
And let us know what your URL is there.

terryp
11-27-2007, 10:11 PM
551 and get us a pic. It would sure be nice to see it. We had the "old" M-60A1's but there were 3 troops of sheridan's too. 72-75 H co 2/11 ACR

Good luck

Santana28
11-28-2007, 01:56 AM
bump

i'm sure the soldiers will be more appreciative of this than a bunch of people looking up at a blimp telling them to vote for someone :)

steph3n
11-28-2007, 02:14 AM
I need to bookmark this for after I get my paycheck :D

frasu
11-28-2007, 02:16 AM
bump

troyd1
11-28-2007, 05:44 AM
Bump.

Kingfisher
11-28-2007, 06:15 AM
Amazing: $300,000 for a blimp, $230 for our troops

Pete
11-28-2007, 06:18 AM
I'm in for $10.

Kingfisher
11-28-2007, 06:59 AM
Bump

Kingfisher
11-28-2007, 07:47 AM
Bump

purplechoe
11-28-2007, 08:12 AM
chipped-in $20...

Kingfisher
11-28-2007, 08:45 AM
Bump

airborne373
11-28-2007, 10:28 AM
Hello everyone!

I want to thank all of the donors and let you know that your generous contributions are already at work. I had a care package of Dvd's, a PS2 system, PS2 games, plus some tooth brushes and bubble gum packaged and ready to go that has been setting around for a couple weeks. Just waiting to budget the shipping cost.

I got it out this morning.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd49/airborne373/373RainbowStationNov28weblog.jpg


Thanks so much!

Please help us in this important effort give to the Ron Paul Supports our Troops Chip In:

http://ronpaulsupportsourtroops.chipin.com/ron-paul-supports-our-troops

Revolution9
11-28-2007, 10:54 AM
bump

i'm sure the soldiers will be more appreciative of this than a bunch of people looking up at a blimp telling them to vote for someone :)

I am sure the soldiers would be more appreciative of a man in the Oval Office bringing them home to their families than some bubble gum.. Sorry to be snarky but..snarky is as snarky gets.

Randy

CurtisLow
11-28-2007, 12:07 PM
Good luck in your quest..


Doug, nice professional pic. Why did you re-sign? Everyone, Doug has been an important part of this campaign from hosting meetings to fundraisers. He gets more stuff done than myself... And I'm an Assistant Organizer for two Meetups!
cc williams


Good enough for me.

http://ronpaul.meetup.com/90/members/5720927/

airborne373
11-28-2007, 01:31 PM
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd49/airborne373/373unitcoinside10001weblog.jpg

I have been a member of the RP INDY meetup since around May. I had to re-signup due to some kind of problem just the other day.

http://ronpaul.meetup.com/90/members/5720927/

You can go to my YouTube site and see the videos of RP meetups I have been a part of for several months now. http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=airborne373
We are group 90 out of what nearly 1400. I am one of the organizational members of our group.

These attempts to discredit me and this effort by people who have no intention of helping or donating is tiresome. I suppose no good deed goes unpunished.

I have provided more than enough proof, credentials, etc. Most Chip Ins are run by semi-anonymous groups with limited info. I have provided far more than that.

It was probably a mistake to give so much info. Perhaps I should just operate this Chip In like all the others behind a organizational name.

Why is it that people who don't contribute want to be the authority over my project?

Please just move on if you do not want to help, your negativity is ugly and it hurts only my guys in Iraq it does not hurt me.



P.S. If you are Air Force you already have a unit to support.

akovacs
11-28-2007, 01:41 PM
Guys, am I the only one seeing the opportunity here?

No other campaign is doing this. Imagine if he shipped out hundreds of these per month, all loaded with goodies and a little RP information. Now only would we look awesome for our charity, but we could get many soldiers over to our side. Someone from the military would have to be the organizer/spokesman though.

Santana28
11-28-2007, 02:03 PM
$25 sent... thanks for doing this.

and to Revolution9... ask yourself this - would Ron Paul think spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to RENT a floating bag of hot air with his name on it to be financially a good investment? Somehow i don't think its something he would have chose to spend his(OUR) money on... I find the entire concept wholly arrogant and conceited - we could be spending that money sending packages like these to our soldiers, not flexing our fundraising prowess in the most outrageous ways possible. I'd personally rather have the soldier's support and vote than a bunch of ignorant college kids watching bowl games (who more than likely wont care enough to vote anyways). Oh well. Thats why i sent my $$ here :) To each his own. "The free market will decide."

Kingfisher
11-28-2007, 04:31 PM
$300,000 for a blimp. How much for our soldiers in Iraq?

CurtisLow
11-28-2007, 05:04 PM
P.S. If you are Air Force you already have a unit to support.

My squadron was based in the US and still is. It deals with Security issues of the US only.
I'm not worried about them. They get treated better then most in the armed forces.

steph3n
11-28-2007, 05:19 PM
My squadron was based in the US and still is. It deals with Security issues of the US only.
I'm not worried about them. They get treated better then most in the armed forces.

Whats the big deal about giving up an address?

the address is on the shipping invoice :)

I am sending more Friday or Monday depending on when the funds make it from my paycheck!

PatriotOne
11-28-2007, 05:29 PM
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd49/airborne373/373unitcoinside10001weblog.jpg

I have been a member of the RP INDY meetup since around May. I had to re-signup due to some kind of problem just the other day.

http://ronpaul.meetup.com/90/members/5720927/

LOL....isn't that convenient that you had to "re-sign" up for your meet-up the same day you come here begging for $.

PatriotOne
11-28-2007, 05:42 PM
I just sent Doug Hostetler an email saying:

A person using your name (and identifying himself as a realtor in Indianapolis) is asking for money on a forum to send care packages to the troops in Iraq. I suspect this is a scam but am asking for your verification. Here is the post that you can read to see the forum thread he has started asking for money:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=42253

Please confirm if this is you. I would appreciate it since some people seem to be sending him money under what I suspect is a ruse.

Thank you.


If this is really you, I suggest you email me back to confirm

http://www.auctionzip.com/IN-Auctioneers/11092.html

info@TowerAuctionCompany.com

steph3n
11-28-2007, 05:46 PM
LOL....isn't that convenient that you had to "re-sign" up for your meet-up the same day you come here begging for $.

He'd be in a lot more trouble for committing mail fraud than taking some money from RP supporters.... mail fraud is serious business, and t fake such as that would be BIG trouble.

i think he's legit he's being quite open about it.

In addition check his photobucket account, he's been sending them for months......

airborne373
11-28-2007, 05:50 PM
I am used to military discriminators like you. The only fake on this thread is you.

I have been a major player in our meetup. Email the organizers in our meetup and ask them. http://ronpaul.meetup.com/90/


I guess the Ron Paul videos on my YouTube channel are fake, huh?
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=airborne373

I guess the Customs Declarations and the postal employees are fake?

http://ronpaulsupportsourtroops.chipin.com/ron-paul-supports-our-troops


Of course you are not interested in the truth are you? You would rather leave your troll droppings. And be and do nothing. Are you even a real Ron Paul supporter? And making thousands of posts on this forum does not make you a real supporter by the way. You actually have to get out and do something.

Do you have any videos of your Ron Paul events you have organized and participated in?

What is the link to your meetup?

The only fake is you. What a sham that you use Patriot in you username.

steph3n
11-28-2007, 05:58 PM
I am used to military discriminators like you. The only fake on this thread is you.

I have been a major player in our meetup. Email the organizers in our meetup and ask them. http://ronpaul.meetup.com/90/


I guess the Ron Paul videos on my YouTube channel are fake, huh?
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=airborne373

I guess the Customs Declarations and the postal employees are fake?

http://ronpaulsupportsourtroops.chipin.com/ron-paul-supports-our-troops


Of course you are not interested in the truth are you? You would rather leave your troll droppings. And be and do nothing. Are you even a real Ron Paul supporter? And making thousands of posts on this forum does not make you a real supporter by the way. You actually have to get out and do something.

Do you have any videos of your Ron Paul events you have organized and participated in?

What is the link to your meetup?

The only fake is you. What a sham that you use Patriot in you username.

Some here can be brutal, don't let them get to you :)

tjasond
11-28-2007, 06:01 PM
Just sent my 10 bucks. Good luck and thanks for your service to our country.

airborne373
11-28-2007, 06:20 PM
I just sent Doug Hostetler an email saying:

A person using your name (and identifying himself as a realtor in Indianapolis) is asking for money on a forum to send care packages to the troops in Iraq. I suspect this is a scam but am asking for your verification. Here is the post that you can read to see the forum thread he has started asking for money:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=42253

Please confirm if this is you. I would appreciate it since some people seem to be sending him money under what I suspect is a ruse.

Thank you.


If this is really you, I suggest you email me back to confirm

http://www.auctionzip.com/IN-Auctioneers/11092.html

info@TowerAuctionCompany.com

Got your email, Junior detective.

CurtisLow
11-28-2007, 08:46 PM
-/////////-

Revolution9
11-28-2007, 09:43 PM
$25 sent... thanks for doing this.

and to Revolution9... ask yourself this - would Ron Paul think spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to RENT a floating bag of hot air with his name on it to be financially a good investment? Somehow i don't think its something he would have chose to spend his(OUR) money on... I find the entire concept wholly arrogant and conceited - we could be spending that money sending packages like these to our soldiers, not flexing our fundraising prowess in the most outrageous ways possible. I'd personally rather have the soldier's support and vote than a bunch of ignorant college kids watching bowl games (who more than likely wont care enough to vote anyways). Oh well. Thats why i sent my $$ here :) To each his own. "The free market will decide."

Do what you want. Knock others and attempting to heap scorn or to discredit while you do yours, portrayed as the holy mission of perfection in your agaitating and you may expect people to see that as hypocritical or smarmy. I am all for this effort by this gentleman, but I am not for knocking another efforts down to prop myself up. And the hypothetical "would Ron Paul" scenario is a canard.

Best Regards
Randy

airborne373
11-28-2007, 09:47 PM
To CurtisLow & PatriotOne

Both of you have done your best to sabotage an effort to help those who have made the greatest of sacrifices to serve their nation. You both have been more than happy to spend your time trying to make others believe this effort is a fraud. And you both have failed miserably. Why? Because I and the donors of this project are authentic and are selflessly doing something of real consequence.

Neither of you can do anything to hurt me. But you most likely have caused potential donors to have second thoughts. So you both have succeeded in one thing: The paratroopers fighting and dying in Iraq will get less material support from home, congratulations.

In a way I am not as upset with"PatriotOne" because at least [Admin - name removed] had the courage to call me and this effort an outright fraud. Wrong as [Admin - name removed] is there is a directness I can respect somewhat.

However CurtisLow you used a smear tactic that would make Rudy Guiliani and the MSM proud. And your claim "I just wanted to send it myself" is weak. If you want to send the troops care packages there is no one stopping you. I have been doing so without anyones consent for sometime. Including to service members I do not even know, who made contact with me through the internet. You are free to start your own fund raiser for the troops also.

You both can continue your malicious and vial attacks if you must. I will not be wasting anymore valuable time with either one of you.

To all of the generous donors please keep watching the "Ron Paul Supports the Troops" Chip In Page and my YouTube channel as there will be some exciting and fun updates, videos and pictures of our good cause. I know how grateful all of the men of the 3/73 will be to get these items your donations have purchased. One 25lbs package went out this morning. Check the Chip In Page for more details.

Chip In Page:

http://ronpaulsupportsourtroops.chipin.com/ron-paul-supports-our-troops

My YT channel: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=airborne373

Santana28
11-29-2007, 02:42 AM
Do what you want. Knock others and attempting to heap scorn or to discredit while you do yours, portrayed as the holy mission of perfection in your agaitating and you may expect people to see that as hypocritical or smarmy. I am all for this effort by this gentleman, but I am not for knocking another efforts down to prop myself up. And the hypothetical "would Ron Paul" scenario is a canard.

Best Regards
Randy

Randy....huh? I have no idea what you are talking about. I'm not knocking you or anyone, and i certainly am not trying to "prop myself up." And i'm certainly not afraid to voice my opinion, or be attacked for it.

I've kept quiet until now my opposition to the blimp thing because i really don't believe negativity helps anything in the grand scheme of things. What i said basically was that while i think supporting the troops directly is a better use of funds than renting a blimp, the free market of these forums is the ultimate "decider" here and people will fund whatever they think is best. I think asking what Ron Paul would do is a very valid question - i'm not trying to guilt you or anyone else for having a different opinion. Often people jump at every cool idea without first taking all things into consideration. I personally think he'd choose to spend the money in other ways (for example, you dont see the campaign going out and renting a fleet of blimps of their own), but thats just my personal opinion. Despite that, a very important point remains - whatever it is we do should not be about purely flexing our communal fundraising muscles. What we do should be about effective vote-getting - thats it. I am of the opinion that we can gain votes in a more efficient and less costly fashion. And i think that if we can do it while simultaneously making someone's life better - even more valuable. Just because you CAN do something, doesn't always mean you should... and that applies to everything, not just giant bags of helium floating in the sky.

I'm done being off-topic in this thread now. Randy, PM if you wish to continue and i'll be happy to talk to you about it.

oh yeah, and.... BUMP for importance!

troyd1
11-29-2007, 07:17 AM
and to Revolution9... ask yourself this - would Ron Paul think spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to RENT a floating bag of hot air with his name on it to be financially a good investment? I think Ron would be happy for the sblimp support as he would be happy we are supporting troops through this chipin. Would he choose to do this with his own money? Maybe not, but a lot of people are maxed donors and believe this may work. I unfortunately am only in half that camp.

PatriotOne
11-29-2007, 08:47 AM
Got your email, Junior detective.



Please respond to my email if you recieved it. My email address and name is public info so unless I get a response, this doesn't mean anything to me. So far I haven't gotten the reply I requested.

mavtek
11-29-2007, 09:18 AM
bump

airborne373
11-29-2007, 09:27 AM
Please respond to my email if you recieved it. My email address and name is public info so unless I get a response, this doesn't mean anything to me. So far I haven't gotten the reply I requested.


Before I waste more of my time on you, how much will you pledge to give to,

Ron Paul Supports our Troops:

http://ronpaulsupportsourtroops.chipin.com/ron-paul-supports-our-troops

You make a pledge here on the forum of at least $50.00 and I will email you back. Put you money where your mouth is.

Update to this post:

I have posted PatriotOne's email address because of his challenges to my identity and authenticity. However someone by the name of Brian keeps removing the address. Saying personal info is the reason. Since it is PatriotOne who is making this challenge I do not see why I cannot post his email address on this thread as proof he is the wrong about everything he says.

Bryan
11-29-2007, 09:55 AM
Hello everyone, I understand this is controversial and that is fine, lets just keep it civil. I maintain neutrality in such matters but do encourage everyone to use their best judgment and will note these two elements in the forum guidelines:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=22

+ No posting of others personal contact information.

+ Care should be used when soliciting money for some effort to support the campaign as it is totally possible that a scam artist will be looking to take advantage of the good nature of Ron Paul supporters. If you're going to do anything that will solicit taking money you'd be wise to make sure you have some established credibility within the community that matches what you expect. If you don't have that, try to set up some arrangements with a third party that does that so people send money to the trusted third party who make sure it goes where intended.


Thanks everyone.

steph3n
11-30-2007, 06:00 PM
I think this is a great cause and wanting to bump it up a bit :)

I haven't gotten my paycheck deposited yet so it will probably be monday.

tjasond
11-30-2007, 06:14 PM
Hi airborne,

I have no idea why you've been under such scrutiny around here. I've donated a bit already but will gladly donate more if you can confirm that Ron Paul materials are being sent along with the aid. Again, thank you for your service to this country and the work that you are currently doing. I don't think many folks realize that money is but a small part of the effort; you're the one that has to buy things with that money, pack them up, and ship them off - all of which takes time that is not being compensated for. In my opinion, you've been more than forthcoming with respect to your intentions and actions, especially through the pictures that you've taken which document your efforts. Thanks and keep up the good work.

JenHarris
11-30-2007, 06:16 PM
In for 100.00 Thanks for what you're doing.

airborne373
11-30-2007, 06:43 PM
steph3n, tjasond, JenHarris, and every one else who supports this effort,

I can't thank you all enough for your kind words and donations. These monies are going to work to send care packages to our valiant men in Iraq right away. There will be additional pictures and information forthcoming. Please "stay tuned" as they say.

There may be some surprises right here on ronpaulforums so be sure to check back.

Tjason - you are correct it does take quite a bit of time and effort to get these items together and shipped. Thank you for recognizing this fact, your appreciation and recognition is "my reward."

http://ronpaulsupportsourtroops.chipin.com/ron-paul-supports-our-troops

Please remember the 3rd Squadron, 73 Cavalry 82ND Airborne has 300 men who are going to be very touched about the material support they are receiving from each of you. Don't be surprised if you become part of the lore of the 3/73. In fact it would probably be a good idea to share with you throughout this project the heritage of this elite unit. I will work on that.

Douglas

nist7
11-30-2007, 06:57 PM
And a letter explaining that the money is coming from RP supporters. This is a three fold effort.

1.) MOST IMPORTANT- To genuinely help these troopers.

2.) Introduce Ron Paul

3.) Create media about this project.

Great work!

Words cannot describe the amount of appreciation that we have for brave men like you who are willing to sacrafice their lives so that we may live in peace and freedom. ....which is why we are also supporting Ron Paul....who will never faulter in his steadfast support for our brave military so that liberty and peace is kept at home!

libertarian4321
11-30-2007, 07:25 PM
Its unfortunate that it costs so much to ship stuff to soldiers in Iraq or Afghanistan.

I used to send packages too, with stuff I gathered from co-workers. The postage cost almost as much as the stuff inside. You'd think the military would ship this stuff for free or a nominal charge (its not like they have a shortage of money, we spend more on the military than the rest of the world combined).

If you are sending to soldiers who have an AAFES PX/BX somewhere nearby, and you have a trustworthy POC there, its easier to send gift certificates and have him buy the stuff (thats what I did after becoming frustrated with the postage).

steph3n
11-30-2007, 07:29 PM
Its unfortunate that it costs so much to ship stuff to soldiers in Iraq or Afghanistan.

I used to send packages too, with stuff I gathered from co-workers. The postage cost almost as much as the stuff inside. You'd think the military would ship this stuff for free or a nominal charge (its not like they have a shortage of money, we spend more on the military than the rest of the world combined).

If you are sending to soldiers who have an AAFES PX/BX somewhere nearby, and you have a trustworthy POC there, its easier to send gift certificates and have him buy the stuff (thats what I did after becoming frustrated with the postage).

pardon my ignorance, but what kind of gift certificate can work, like one for the field commisary(store), also will phone cards do any good or would we have to buy special iraq to us caling cards?

tjasond
11-30-2007, 09:19 PM
bump!

Look, this is important. While many in the media are questioning whether or not we support the troops, a fellow supporter is sponsoring a genuine effort to help his fellow patriots while they are in harms way. Stop staring at the money counter on Ron Paul's site and start paying some attention to this selfless, patriotic, and worthwhile cause. The troops love Ron Paul, let's show them some love back.

tjasond
11-30-2007, 10:19 PM
bumpity bump

voortrekker
11-30-2007, 10:28 PM
airborne373,

there's $100 coming to our fellow servicemen and women through your chipin.

THANK YOU for you efforts in doing this.

And GODBLESS our serviceman and women!!!!!!

We miss you!!!!!


We want all of you to come home!!!!!!!!!!


brett.

Santana28
12-01-2007, 01:54 AM
burp..i mean bump :)

devil21
12-01-2007, 02:27 AM
For anyone familiar with 419 scams this type of thread will raise a red flag. Personally, if this is legit then there shouldnt be a problem with the OP responding to the email sent by another member. "Put your money where your mouth is" is not an appropriate response to a verification email that was acknowledged as being received. "I have emailed you back and I hope it will quench your concerns" is an appropriate response. The defiance of the response shows that someone is trying to drag it out.

Put your money where your mouth is, indeed. Be careful.

Bryan
12-01-2007, 01:51 PM
For anyone familiar with 419 scams this type of thread will raise a red flag. Personally, if this is legit then there shouldnt be a problem with the OP responding to the email sent by another member. "Put your money where your mouth is" is not an appropriate response to a verification email that was acknowledged as being received. "I have emailed you back and I hope it will quench your concerns" is an appropriate response. The defiance of the response shows that someone is trying to drag it out.

Put your money where your mouth is, indeed. Be careful.
Just an FYI, I've talked with Douglas on this and other issues for several hours and support his efforts. Further, this forums is now running a complementary effort on this- it's basically the same deal just that we're going to be doing the leg work for Douglas. Here is the thread on the forum ChipIn:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=45417

airborne373
12-01-2007, 02:11 PM
Hello Everyone,

One of the "unintended consequences" of this effort is I get to share the lore, history, and legend of the 3RD Battalion , 73RD Regiment.

CAMP SCANIA, Iraq - After a long and hard night at work patrolling the streets of Iraq, the Paratroopers of 3rd Squadron, 73rd Cavalry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division are finally returning back to Camp Scania, their home for the next 14 months. Read complete story here. (http://www.bragg.army.mil/82DV/QRF_patrols.html)


I did a little shopping this morning. I intend to purchase and mail care packages as donations come in.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd49/airborne373/SamsClub373weblog020.jpg


Please help us in this effort your donation go 100% to the items mailed and postage. There is no bureaucracy to support here.

Donate at" Ron Paul Supports the Troops! (http://ronpaulsupportsourtroops.chipin.com/ron-paul-supports-our-troops)

mosquitobite
12-01-2007, 02:27 PM
Bump. This is a great cause!

Kingfisher
12-01-2007, 02:38 PM
Are you including slim-jims in the care packages?
I dont think he meant the kind you eat. He meant Ron Paul campaign slim jims. I have a bunch of them I can donate if you need them.

Kingfisher
12-01-2007, 02:58 PM
bump

Mark37snj
12-01-2007, 03:09 PM
Bump, just donated 25.00

Mark37snj
12-01-2007, 03:47 PM
Bump

Kingfisher
12-01-2007, 05:00 PM
bump

steph3n
12-01-2007, 05:04 PM
pardon my ignorance, but what kind of gift certificate can work, like one for the field commisary(store), also will phone cards do any good or would we have to buy special iraq to us caling cards?

anyone know the answer to this?

Mark37snj
12-01-2007, 05:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by steph3n
pardon my ignorance, but what kind of gift certificate can work, like one for the field commisary(store), also will phone cards do any good or would we have to buy special iraq to us caling cards?



anyone know the answer to this?

You dont want to send a gift certificates for the commisary because it is GREATLY overpriced. The best bang for the buck is to donate to the Chipin. Dont know anything about the phone cards.

steph3n
12-01-2007, 05:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by steph3n
pardon my ignorance, but what kind of gift certificate can work, like one for the field commisary(store), also will phone cards do any good or would we have to buy special iraq to us caling cards?




You dont want to send a gift certificates for the commisary because it is GREATLY overpriced. The best bang for the buck is to donate to the Chipin. Dont know anything about the phone cards.

ok thanks for the info :) I asked because someone said gift certs may be the best means to send without costing so much for shipping :)

airborne373
12-03-2007, 03:13 PM
Wow, who new being a part of a political campaign could be so exciting. Here in Indianapolis our meetup put on two events for the Ron Paul National Rally Weekend.
Our first was Saturday at the Circle Center Mall in downtown Indianapolis. We had a turn out of about 26 supporters on a frigidly cold day. As what is becoming the status quo the public response was very positive and we handed out lots of literature about our freedom revolution.

We followed this up with another sign wave on the north side of INDY near Castleton Square Mall. We had about 29 supporters in the pouring rain. About six new supporters showed up and again the public response was overwhelmingly positive. Please watch the video slide show on my YT channel: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=airborne373

Be sure to read the side bar by the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LbJSPYRc2E

Shipped 90 lbs of goodies to the guys in Iraq today also will update the Chip In Page as soon as I can:

http://ronpaulsupportsourtroops.chipin.com/ron-paul-supports-our-troops


Again thank you all for supporting this effort it is really meaningful and gets directly to the people who deserve it most.

So much to do, so little time. Keep up the fight patriots, we are winning.

williameis
12-03-2007, 03:58 PM
I am used to military discriminators like you. The only fake on this thread is you.
...

The only fake is you. What a sham that you use Patriot in you username.

He was asking for verification in a straight forward and non-insulting manner. You think anyone that has posted in this thread has some sort of anti-troop motive? You think they don't want any dollars going to support troops? That makes no sense.

Fraud is a real problem and I appreciate the service they are providing. If you would be nicer, and if you were able to comply with simple requests such as replying to your email address, more care packages would get to the troops.

I'll give $25 if your reply to PatriotOne's email and he posts that he thinks you are legit. Is the verification really that unreasonable?

Respectfully,
Will

polexi
12-03-2007, 04:18 PM
Agreed. I would also like to put in $25, but please reply to PatriotOne's email.

airborne373
12-03-2007, 05:11 PM
I have replied to Pat*&^% One's email. It was not a friendly response but he got one. The reason I did not want to respond initially was because there is no way to show this on the thread I must depend on a Pat^%$# One to respond. Now it is up to this individual to show some kind of contrition for his slander. I am not betting on it though.

ctb619
12-03-2007, 05:17 PM
You dont want to send a gift certificates for the commisary because it is GREATLY overpriced. The best bang for the buck is to donate to the Chipin. Dont know anything about the phone cards.

I don't think they offer gift certificates for the PX/BX. By the way, having spent a year in Iraq, the prices at these stores are not unreasonable, and are typically the same as in the states. Either way, it's best to send them the supplies directly, as the lines are typically very long at these stores, and soldiers often don't have the time or opportunity to shop there. When I was there phone cards were in huge demand, and friends and family would send us regular phone cards from the states all the time. I'm not sure what the phone situation is now over there, but it's probably different for every unit.

steph3n
12-03-2007, 05:21 PM
I don't think they offer gift certificates for the PX/BX. By the way, having spent a year in Iraq, the prices at these stores are not unreasonable, and are typically the same as in the states. Either way, it's best to send them the supplies directly, as the lines are typically very long at these stores, and soldiers often don't have the time or opportunity to shop there. When I was there phone cards were in huge demand, and friends and family would send us regular phone cards from the states all the time. I'm not sure what the phone situation is now over there, but it's probably different for every unit.

ok interesting. Glad to hear on the phone card front I'd like to get confirmation from someone else there.

RonPaulVolunteer
12-03-2007, 05:24 PM
How can we get the names/addresses of those on active duty? I bet they have very little info about Ron Paul. I see nothing wrong with sending them just some info about Ron Paul.

grizzums
12-03-2007, 05:36 PM
Hello Airborne. Fellow ex-82nd here....infantry though - 3/505th. I will donate to the chip in set up by this forum ( A soldiers christmas) when I get home in honor of all vets. Thank you for your great service.

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airborne373
12-03-2007, 05:48 PM
Hello Airborne. Fellow ex-82nd here....infantry though - 3/505th. I will donate to the chip in set up by this forum ( A soldiers christmas) when I get home in honor of all vets. Thank you for your great service.

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Hi Paratrooper,

How are you doing? I got an email on YT from a fellow Panther of yours who is in Bayji a couple months ago. He is spreading the word about Ron Paul. I thought he said he was 1-505.

All The Way!

Douglas
3/73 B Co. Veteran

P.S. We are all Infantry when the vehicle we are riding in breaks down. lol

LynnB
12-03-2007, 05:48 PM
ANd bumper stickers how awesome would it be to see a youtube video of a tank in IRAQ with a ron paul bumper sticker on it

BUMP!!!

airborne373
02-25-2008, 08:59 AM
Hello Everyone,

I just spoke with SGM. Davis this past Sunday, he called from Iraq, Camp Scania. So I thought this would be a good time for an update. He has received all of your donations and he and the entire 3RD Squadron, 73RD Cavalry are very appreciative. They have been deployed for 7 months and are almost half way home.

I sent lots of candy, beef jerky and the sort that I purchased at Sam's Club, these are good comfort items, store well and can be put in cargo pockets. They have used some of the candy at the soldiers run aid station for civilians in Camp Scania. This is a medical facility operated by the soldiers and funded by private citizens like you. Our guys have really big hearts to go out of their way and do something like this on their own but hey that is just who they are.

It turns out there are a lot of burn victims so the aid station has become a burn center of sorts. Here is a youtube vid about the effort. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpR2l5-z5VU


I would like to raise some more money to help these guys and their good works for the period they have left in country. But before I post a link for that I want to see if their is any interest. So if you think this is a good cause and still makes sense for the RPF let me know your opinion.