Reason Amash's NSA Amendment was voted down? : $$$$$$$$$$

[Contumacious]

Lawmakers Who Upheld NSA Phone Spying Received Double the Defense Industry Cash (http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/07/money-nsa-vote/)

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2013/07/chair-man-660x470.jpg

The numbers tell the story — in votes and dollars. On Wednesday, the House voted 217 to 205 not to rein in the NSA’s phone-spying dragnet. It turns out that those 217 “no” voters received twice as much campaign financing from the defense and intelligence industry as the 205 “yes” voters.

That’s the upshot of a new analysis by MapLight, a Berkeley-based non-profit that performed the inquiry at WIRED’s request. The investigation shows that defense cash was a better predictor of a member’s vote on the Amash amendment than party affiliation. House members who voted to continue the massive phone-call-metadata spy program, on average, raked in 122 percent more money from defense contractors than those who voted to dismantle it

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[enhanced_deficit]

That makes sense.

[Carlybee]

Not that big of a surprise..I bet if you looked you would find most of them support drones as well.

[Contumacious]

That makes sense.

Fuck principles, fuck Constitutional rights, fuck patriotism. Money talks , bullshit walks.

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[Contumacious]

Not that big of a surprise..I bet if you looked you would find most of them support drones as well.

That's what happens when criminals are elected to power

[CPUd]

This is actually not a bad idea for an app. Have a list of the votes that are scheduled to happen, with a prediction of each roll-call vote. There are enough people on these boards who have been dialed-into the happenings on The Hill, we could build a prediction model based on their affiliations and past votes that is surprisingly accurate (between 98 and 100%). Imagine a town hall meeting where the Rep is getting ready to go back for another session, and at the town hall, people already know how the Rep is going to vote- on everything, no matter how they try to bullshit their way out of it.

[Contumacious]

Imagine a town hall meeting where the Rep is getting ready to go back for another session, and at the town hall, people already know how the Rep is going to vote- on everything, no matter how they try to bullshit their way out of it.

Pelosi defends record after "60 Minutes" report (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57324034/pelosi-defends-record-after-60-minutes-report/)

One of them was Rep. Pelosi, who participated in a 2008 IPO from Visa, just as legislation that would have hurt the credit card companies began moving through the House. Pelosi bought 5,000 shares of Visa at $44 and the stock price rose to $64 just two days later. The credit card legislation never made it to the House floor."

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[FallOfTheWest]

That POS in the pic if my rep. I'm so mad right now

[JustinTime]

I have to hand it to them, they are diabolical.

They use THE PEOPLES money to pay off politicians to make it legal (or just pretend its legal) to spy on THE PEOPLE!

[Bern]

When the dollar speaks, lawmakers listen.

[enhanced_deficit]

Fuck principles, fuck Constitutional rights, fuck patriotism. Money talks , bullshit walks.

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Freedom is on the march.

[Contumacious]

I have to hand it to them, they are diabolical.

They use THE PEOPLES money to pay off politicians to make it legal (or just pretend its legal) to spy on THE PEOPLE!

Hopefully, Gary North's conclusion is correct:


Blind Men's Bluff: Why the Surveillance State Is Doomed (http://www.garynorth.com/public/11315.cfm)

On the contrary, it [NSA] is eminently stoppable. It will be stopped. Economics will stop it.

The ability of any bureaucracy to make decisions is limited by its ability to use the data at its disposal to make rational decisions. Ludwig von Mises in 1920 showed why all central planning by the state is blind. It has no free market to guide it. There are no prices to guide it. The state is inherently myopic. His 1944 book, Bureaucracy, extended this theme. The more that a bureaucracy seeks omniscience in its quest for omnipotence, the more short-sighted it becomes. I put it this way: it bites off more than it can chew. In the case of the NSA, it bytes off more than it can chew.

Bureaucrats are time-servers. They are not original. They are turf-defenders. They are career-builders. They are not entrepreneurial. That was Mises' point in 1944. The key goal of a bureaucrat is this: "Don't make a mistake." In short, "do it by the book." It does not matter which bureaucracy we have in mind: CIA, FBI, NSA. The attitude is the same, because the financing is the same: from the government."

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[enhanced_deficit]

Same ol same critters:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAzDEbVFcg8&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAzDEbVFcg8&feature=player_embedded

[Contumacious]

Lawmakers Who Upheld NSA Phone Spying Received Double the Defense Industry Cash (http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/07/money-nsa-vote/)

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2013/07/chair-man-660x470.jpg

The numbers tell the story — in votes and dollars. On Wednesday, the House voted 217 to 205 not to rein in the NSA’s phone-spying dragnet. It turns out that those 217 “no” voters received twice as much campaign financing from the defense and intelligence industry as the 205 “yes” voters.

That’s the upshot of a new analysis by MapLight, a Berkeley-based non-profit that performed the inquiry at WIRED’s request. The investigation shows that defense cash was a better predictor of a member’s vote on the Amash amendment than party affiliation. House members who voted to continue the massive phone-call-metadata spy program, on average, raked in 122 percent more money from defense contractors than those who voted to dismantle it

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Momentum Builds Against N.S.A. Surveillance (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/29/us/politics/momentum-builds-against-nsa-surveillance.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0)

By JONATHAN WEISMAN


WASHINGTON — The movement to crack down on government surveillance started with an odd couple from Michigan, Representatives Justin Amash, a young libertarian Republican known even to his friends as “chief wing nut,” and John Conyers Jr., an elder of the liberal left in his 25th House term.

Representative Justin Amash, a Michigan Republican, is part of the movement to crack down on government surveillance.


But what began on the political fringes only a week ago has built a momentum that even critics say may be unstoppable, drawing support from Republican and Democratic leaders, attracting moderates in both parties and pulling in some of the most respected voices on national security in the House. "

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[Origanalist]

http://the-classic-liberal.com/helping-terrorists-win-since-911/