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libertyjam
07-27-2013, 12:55 PM
I didn't see this one posted so here it is,

Pittsburgh, PA
Man gets into argument with drunk, off-duty cop, in the AM no less, so his buddies decide to swat the whole family.
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/lawsuit-swat-officers-dragged-10-year-old-bathtub-made-him-stand-naked-next-4-year

Courthouse News / By Rose Bouboushian
Lawsuit: SWAT Officers Dragged 10-Year-Old from Bathtub, Made Him Stand Naked Next to 4-Year-Old Sister, Terrorized Family
14 police officers with helmets and facemasks and assault rifles stormed in, family says.

July 26, 2013
Pittsburgh SWAT officers must face claims that they raided a family's home, violently dragged a child from the bathtub, and "terrorized" them at gunpoint, a federal judge ruled.

Georgeia Moreno and her family sued Pittsburgh, its police chief and 14 police officers in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Pennsylvania.
The events unfolded as Georgeia, her husband, William; and her stepfather, Mark Staymates were watching television in their living room as Georgia's sick mother, Darlene, slept upstairs at 7 p.m. on Dec. 7, 2010. They suddenly heard a loud explosion and saw bright lights, "as if grenades were going off," the complaint states.

Pittsburgh Police SWAT officers wearing helmets and facemasks then broke and "stormed through" the front and back doors of the home, according to the complaint.
Those officers allegedly never identified themselves, pointed assault rifles at the family, shouted obscenities and destroyed their property.

Although the team purportedly sought to arrest William for quarreling with a drunk, off-duty police officer at a local veterans club early that morning, the family says that their "terrorization" continued for another 45 minutes after William was apprehended.

The officers threw to the floor, kicked and handcuffed Georgeia, her stepfather and her adult son Billy. They also injured Mark's shoulder and forced Billy to lie face down in broken glass, according to the complaint.

When Georgeia pleaded repeatedly that she had young children in the house, at least one officer allegedly stated, "You think you can get one of ours, and we won't get one of yours?"

The family says the police proceeded to drag Georgeia's 10-year-old son Trentino violently from the bathtub, injuring his ankles. They allegedly then made the boy stand naked at gunpoint next to his 4-year-old sister Briseis.

Officers have continued to harass and threaten the family since the raid, telling them "that's how we do things here" and that they should move out of Pittsburgh, the complaint states.

The family asserts claims for violations of their Fourth and 14th amendment rights and seeks $50,000 in damages.
U.S. District Judge Nora Barry Fischer refused to dismiss the case Monday, holding that the plaintiffs' claims are not time-barred, and the officers knew or should have known that the action would be brought against them.

She noted discrepancies with claims from the SWAT defendants that they were not notified of the action within 120 days, i.e. by Sept. 9, 2012.
This claims is belied by Officer Michael Reddy's answer, which was filed on July 11, 2012, and "contained specific facts about the Dec. 7, 2010, raid of which defendant Reddy later testified he had no personal knowledge," Fischer wrote (emphasis in original).

"Reddy's answer contains other statements regarding facts that would have been only known to the SWAT team members involved in the initial raid," the judge added. "Yet, his answer also avers that in response to certain SWAT team allegations, 'after reasonable investigation,' he was without sufficient knowledge to answer. Given these details, it appears that defense counsel may have secured information from other sources, likely the SWAT officers involved in the raid, to craft defendant Reddy's answer."
Fischer also tossed aside Officer Carl Morosetti's claim that he solely arrested William and did not participate in the actual raid.

"If the court accepts plaintiffs' factual allegations as true and considers them in their favor, as the court must do at the motion to dismiss stage, then plaintiffs have alleged sufficient facts to support a §1983 claim against Morosetti," Fischer wrote. "Once discovery has concluded, Morosetti can renew his arguments, if appropriate, at the summary judgment stage."

Fact discovery will close on Aug. 5, the judgment states.

heavenlyboy34
07-27-2013, 01:00 PM
get a bunch of rope and chains! :mad: :mad:

phill4paul
07-27-2013, 01:06 PM
"You think you can get one of ours, and we won't get one of yours?"


Back at ya. Half that squad should be hanging from lampposts and the other half in hiding. This has got to end.

liberty2897
07-27-2013, 01:10 PM
Personally, I would move #7 up to the top.

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2013/01/02/the-jobs-with-the-most-psychopaths/


So what were the kinds of jobs most likely to attract psychopaths, and those least likely?

Highest Rates of Psychopathy:

1. CEO
2. Lawyer
3. Media (Television/Radio)
4. Salesperson
5. Surgeon
6. Journalist
7. Police Officer
8. Clergy person
9. Chef
10. Civil Servant

Lowest Rates of Psychopathy:

1. Care Aide
2. Nurse
3. Therapist
4. Craftsperson
5. Beautician/Stylist
6. Charity Worker
7. Teacher
8. Creative Artist
9. Doctor
10. Accountant

Anti Federalist
07-27-2013, 01:11 PM
I'd happily print this story out, and shove it down the fucking throat of the very next idiot who says I have sacrifice liberty to keep me safe from "terrorists".

Anti Federalist
07-27-2013, 01:12 PM
Back at ya. Half that squad should be hanging from lampposts and the other half in hiding. This has got to end.

War on Us.

Anti Federalist
07-27-2013, 01:15 PM
I have zero, and I mean zero concern that ululating Jihadists are going to storm my home in the middle of the night, grenade my children, kill my dog, abuse my family, shove automatic weapons in our face and possibly cut us all to ribbons with machine gun fire if any of us so much as twitches funny.

Zero.

Now, replace "ululating Jihadists" with "Officer Friendly and his Asshole Buddies in a FedCoat supplied tank", my concern level and chances of such an event occurring, skyrockets.

Fucking War is Peace, indeed.

Anti Federalist
07-27-2013, 01:18 PM
Officers have continued to harass and threaten the family since the raid, telling them "that's how we do things here" and that they should move out of Pittsburgh, the complaint states.

Gang Bangers, that's all, just fucking gang bangers with badges.

phill4paul
07-27-2013, 01:21 PM
I have zero, and I mean zero concern that ululating Jihadists are going to storm my home in the middle of the night, grenade my children, kill my dog, abuse my family, shove automatic weapons in our face and possibly cut us all to ribbons with machine gun fire if any of us so much as twitches funny.

Zero.

Now, replace "ululating Jihadists" with "Officer Friendly and his Asshole Buddies in a FedCoat supplied tank", my concern level and chances of such an event occurring, skyrockets.

Fucking War is Peace, indeed.

That's about the way I see it. One of these days they are gonna piss off the wrong someone and an anonymous tip is gonna lead a squad into a death trap. And I won't shed a tear.

heavenlyboy34
07-27-2013, 01:22 PM
Gang Bangers, that's all, just fucking gang bangers with badges.
Have you got stats on how often and where exactly this kind of shit happens in Phoenix? It would help me rest easier if I'm statistically not too likely to be flash-banged at 4 AM and a fucking rifle shoved in my face.

torchbearer
07-27-2013, 01:23 PM
eventually- they are going to swat the wrong one-

Anti Federalist
07-27-2013, 01:28 PM
Have you got stats on how often and where exactly this kind of shit happens in Phoenix? It would help me rest easier if I'm statistically not too likely to be flash-banged at 4 AM and a fucking rifle shoved in my face.

It's unlikely, if you follow Rule Number One.

But it is much more likely, many times more likely, than thinking Achmed and Abdul would do so.

torchbearer
07-27-2013, 01:29 PM
It's unlikely, if you follow Rule Number One.

But it is much more likely, many times more likely, than thinking Achmed and Abdul would do so.

8 times more likely to be killed by officer friendly than habib.

ZENemy
07-27-2013, 01:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYOKVTaflbM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Anti Federalist
08-03-2013, 01:28 PM
Bump for another thread

presence
08-03-2013, 01:37 PM
eventually- they are going to swat the wrong one-

I open the newspaper every morning waiting.

brushfire
08-03-2013, 01:40 PM
get a bunch of rope and chains! :mad: :mad:

Pair of pliers and a torch is more like it... Maybe a few truck tires and some kerosine to go with it.

Anti Federalist
08-03-2013, 01:56 PM
It's unlikely, if you follow Rule Number One.

But it is much more likely, many times more likely, than thinking Achmed and Abdul would do so.

587 Mundanes killed by LEOs in 2012.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_th e_United_States_2012

64 cops killed by violent encounter in 2012. (this excludes, car accidents, heart attacks, accidental gunfire etc, total was 120.)

http://www.odmp.org/search/year?year=2012

9 people killed by "terrorism" in 2012. (Interesting to note that the rate of terrorism deaths, while still miniscule has, increased three times from what it was in 1985. )

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/terror-rate.html

That means that just 15.5 percent of all those killed by law enforcement would have to have been killed under "questionable" circumstances, to make the following true:

You are ten times more likely to be killed by a cop than a terrorist.

bolil
08-03-2013, 01:59 PM
Woah, are you telling me that pigs have a tendency to squuuuuueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel? There is nothing REASONABLE (as regards the current monoploy of reason) that anyone can do about this.

Except to say, on a vapid forum: Fuck the police.

Cleaner44
08-03-2013, 02:10 PM
These lawsuit need to cripple the budgets of these departments. Sue them every time for as much as possible.

heavenlyboy34
08-03-2013, 02:23 PM
btw, Shouldn't the ACLU be on cases like this suing the shit out of these pigs? :confused:

dillo
08-03-2013, 02:31 PM
what was the warrant for?

torchbearer
08-03-2013, 06:32 PM
These lawsuit need to cripple the budgets of these departments. Sue them every time for as much as possible.

the police departments have insurance against such suits.
they won't even pay for the damage they cause.

Occam's Banana
08-08-2013, 12:55 AM
[...] one officer allegedly stated, "You think you can get one of ours, and we won't get one of yours?" [...] Officers have continued to harass and threaten the family since the raid, telling them "that's how we do things here" [...]

"That's the Pittsburgh way!" ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVBHTH41xAE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVBHTH41xAE

Carson
08-08-2013, 03:15 PM
Until I hear more, I'm going to have to side with the police on this one.

It seems very suspicious to me that original article omits what the original discussion was about.

Also I can't imagine even if the osifer was inebriated that twelve other officers wouldn't set him straight if he was in the wrong.


A lot seems to be missing from this article. In fact I've seen a slew of reports by the news that say nothing except enough facts to rally up a lynch mob. It's like it's part of the new world order of things.



For years they've been getting away with, "He had a gun." as enough said for all kinds of mayhem in the aftermath. And I'm here thinking it a right that's protected. :confused:

heavenlyboy34
08-08-2013, 03:21 PM
Until I hear more, I'm going to have to side with the police on this one.

It seems very suspicious to me that original article omits what the original discussion was about.

Also I can't imagine even if the osifer was inebriated that twelve other officers wouldn't set him straight if he was in the wrong.


A lot seems to be missing from this article. In fact I've seen a slew of reports by the news that say nothing except enough facts to rally up a lynch mob. It's like it's part of the new world order of things.
What in the original discussion could possibly warrant an obviously vindictive raid (what we'd call a "hit" if it weren't done by guys in government costumes)? :confused:

osan
08-08-2013, 03:33 PM
Back at ya. Half that squad should be hanging from lampposts and the other half in hiding. This has got to end.

Agreed. At this point, killing police who engage in such acts is the only proper solution. They understand nothing else but brute and uncivil force. They must, therefore, be dealt with in such terms or they will continue to push the envelope until we no longer dare leave our homes.

satchelmcqueen
08-08-2013, 04:27 PM
and..............................pussy cops!

Thor
08-08-2013, 05:05 PM
Mafia in blue.

heavenlyboy34
08-08-2013, 05:13 PM
Mafia in blue.
This^^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qEr_mZf06Y

Henry Rogue
08-08-2013, 05:30 PM
Oh my! I missed this one. Need to swat proof the house.