Krauthammer: Christie’s Remarks on Paul ‘Electrifying,’ ‘Extremely Important Moment’

[jct74]

Krauthammer’s Take: Christie’s Remarks on Paul ‘Electrifying,’ ‘Extremely Important Moment’

By NRO Staff
July 26, 2013 7:59 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=eEDVVyLoPYo

Charles Krauthammer described New Jersey Governor Chris Christie’s attack on Kentucky Senator Rand Paul’s foreign-policy views “fearless,” “electrifying,” and “an extremely important moment.” Christie’s remarks touched off a kerfuffle between the two Republican politicians, both of whom are seen as contenders for their party’s presidential nomination in 2016. In Krauthammer’s words,


It was an extremely important moment. Rand Paul represents the sort of isolationist wing of the Republican party; by this direct, fearless attack on him by Christie, I think he takes up the mantle of the majority of the GOP, which is interventionist. And that’s a really important moment.
When Special Report host Bret Baier pointed out the growing influence of “a libertarian strain” within the party, the syndicated columnist replied, “that’s what makes what Christie did in taking it on so important and electrifying.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/354563/krauthammers-take-christies-remarks-paul-electrifying-extremely-important-moment-nro

[RonPaulFanInGA]

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/354563/krauthammers-take-christies-remarks-paul-electrifying-extremely-important-moment-nro


Charles Krauthammer described New Jersey Governor Chris Christie’s attack on Kentucky Senator Rand Paul’s foreign-policy views “fearless,” “electrifying,” and “an extremely important moment.” Christie’s remarks touched off a kerfuffle between the two Republican politicians, both of whom are seen as contenders for their party’s presidential nomination in 2016.

It was an extremely important moment. Rand Paul represents the sort of isolationist wing of the Republican party; by this direct, fearless attack on him by Christie, I think he takes up the mantle of the majority of the GOP, which is interventionist. And that’s a really important moment.

[Christian Liberty]

"Electrifying." As in, its so stupid, I'm still shocked when I hear it.

[Carlybee]

Electrifying by Charles Kryptkeeper's standards could also mean staying up past 9 pm.

[WD-NY]

let's be sure to own the comments (like we are on almost every other Rand vs Christie article)

[Brian4Liberty]

Krauthammer has only one agenda: war. At all costs. Big government? Deficit spending? Unimaginable debt? Secret Police State? Socialism? Destruction of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights? All of that is fine with him, even preferred. He wants war, and anything else he says is a lie to fool people who are not on to his Trotskyite game.

[angelatc]

"Electrifying." As in, its so stupid, I'm still shocked when I hear it.
I wish someone would pull the plug on him.

[Legend1104]

"Electrifying." As in, its so stupid, I'm still shocked when I hear it.

Seriously. If there is a growing strand of libertarianism in the party, and the party needs to grow, and it has been losing its base, and it has been losing the last few presidential elections, then why would you want to shot yourself in the foot?

ON a different note, I hope he seriously does not think that a new jersey liberal represents the majority of the Republican party.

[Dr.3D]

I won't directly link to it.... but doesn't he look like the Grinch?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pIquxuF0zY8/Tk0GNYl-sjI/AAAAAAAAAFw/2der0CN3gGY/s1600/krauthammer_grinch.jpg

[Cleaner44]

I think he takes up the mantle of the majority of the GOP, which is interventionist. And that’s a really important moment.

Well the majority of GOP might very well be interventionist, but they can't win without our votes. If they go down the McCain/Romney road again with some liberal Republican like Christie, they will again suffer defeat to the liberal Democrats.

NOTICE TO NEOCONS:
We have you and your party by the balls. If you want to win the White House, you will need to give us what we want. We will throw the baby out with the bath water because liberal Republicans and not better than liberal Democrats to us. In fact we will kick your liberal baby right out of the fucking tub and toss his naked ass out into the street crying like the little bitch that he is! If you doubt us, just ask crazy old RINO Juan McCain or east coast RINO Mitt Flopney.

[Brett85]

I wouldn't even say that the majority of the GOP is interventionist, at least not among Republican voters, and probably not even in the house of reps. Didn't the house of reps pass two amendments by voice vote that deny funding for intervention in Syria and Egypt?

[VIDEODROME]

I always think hey it's Max Headroom's Dad.

[seyferjm]

Neocons just can't stand the fact that they are going downhill.

[Sola_Fide]

The necon resurgence begins..

[Cleaner44]

The necon resurgence begins..

No worries, we will all unite behind Rand. The typical Republican voter that did not get on board with Ron like Rand much better. He will destroy candidates like Christie.

[Kotin]

another gem from Charles "The Kraut Hammer"

[Brian4Liberty]

NOTICE TO NEOCONS:
We have you and your party by the balls. If you want to win the White House, you will need to give us what we want. We will throw the baby out with the bath water because liberal Republicans and not better than liberal Democrats to us. In fact we will kick your liberal baby right out of the fucking tub and toss his naked ass out into the street crying like the little bitch that he is! If you doubt us, just ask crazy old RINO Juan McCain or east coast RINO Mitt Flopney.

Uh, true neo-conservatives are just as happy with Obama as they would be with a President McCain. Your threat is no threat, it's actually what they want. They are infiltrators in the GOP. Either they get a global, socialist, interventionist like McCain, or they are happy with the equivalent Democrat. They want the GOP to go down in flames.

[AuH20]

Well the majority of GOP might very well be interventionist, but they can't win without our votes. If they go down the McCain/Romney road again with some liberal Republican like Christie, they will again suffer defeat to the liberal Democrats.

NOTICE TO NEOCONS:
We have you and your party by the balls. If you want to win the White House, you will need to give us what we want. We will throw the baby out with the bath water because liberal Republicans and not better than liberal Democrats to us. In fact we will kick your liberal baby right out of the fucking tub and toss his naked ass out into the street crying like the little bitch that he is! If you doubt us, just ask crazy old RINO Juan McCain or east coast RINO Mitt Flopney.

They don't care. Their job is to aid and abet the democratic party. They have locked up leadership in such a way, so as to insure that the people never roll back the changes made over the last 100 years.

[cindy25]

Christie's comments put everything out in the open, now we know who is with us,and who is against us

[Brett85]

Christie's comments put everything out in the open, now we know who is with us,and who is against us

Yeah, it also shows that Scott Walker is against us. I thought he would be more of a libertarian-leaing conservative, but I guess not.

[donnay]

I think this is great because we are making them talk about the liberty movement. Normally they would ignore us. This is a win. Ben Swann pointed it out tonight and instead of getting enraged we ought to rejoice! Definitely a new perspective and a good way to look at it.

[Carlybee]

I think it's great because it's bringing to light something many of us have been saying all along...you cannot build coalitions with some of these people...they have their own agenda.

[supermario21]

Maybe John Kasich is the midwestern governor we need. He's been in Congress already and has a record. His foreign policy is decent. Rand will cover his weaknesses on guns (1 vote in the 90s) and Medicaid (Rand can do health reform).

[Cleaner44]

Uh, true neo-conservatives are just as happy with Obama as they would be with a President McCain. Your threat is no threat, it's actually what they want. They are infiltrators in the GOP. Either they get a global, socialist, interventionist like McCain, or they are happy with the equivalent Democrat. They want the GOP to go down in flames.


They don't care. Their job is to aid and abet the democratic party. They have locked up leadership in such a way, so as to insure that the people never roll back the changes made over the last 100 years.

Neocon voters certainly care. I am speaking to those Republican voters that blame Obama for everything. Those neocon Republican voters that thought they had to hold their nose and vote for Romney because anything was better than Obama and they wanted more than anything to defeat the Kenyan. Those voters didn't want Romney but felt that he was the lesser of two evils and bought the bullshit that he was electable. Those voters are pissed. Those voters do NOT want to see Hillary win in 2016. Those voters hate the liberal media and believe the propaganda from FOX News because it is their only alternative to the commie bastards at CNN and MSNBC. Neocon voters are our neighbours and they aren't as into politics as we here are, but they know one thing for sure... they want desperately to defeat the Democrats.

Rand Paul will be the union of libertarian voters and mainstream Republican voters. He will stand out from the pretenders that all voters are sick of. He will win the Republican nomination if he is alive.

[Carlybee]

I work for one of those Neocon voters who said to me: "There's nothing wrong with security cameras, I think they should be everywhere."

[AuH20]

Neocon voters certainly care. I am speaking to those Republican voters that blame Obama for everything. Those neocon Republican voters that thought they had to hold their nose and vote for Romney because anything was better than Obama and they wanted more than anything to defeat the Kenyan. Those voters didn't want Romney but felt that he was the lesser of two evils and bought the bullshit that he was electable. Those voters are pissed. Those voters do NOT want to see Hillary win in 2016. Those voters hate the liberal media and believe the propaganda from FOX News because it is their only alternative to the commie bastards at CNN and MSNBC. Neocon voters are our neighbours and they aren't as into politics as we here are, but they know one thing for sure... they want desperately to defeat the Democrats.

Rand Paul will be the union of libertarian voters and mainstream Republican voters. He will stand out from the pretenders that all voters are sick of. He will win the Republican nomination if he is alive.


But they really aren't Neocon voters. Bush loyalists comparatively make up a very small portion of the party (perhaps 30%). The rest of the GOP voting base is very alert to what is going on, hence Paul and Cruz's high numbers.

[Brett85]

Maybe John Kasich is the midwestern governor we need. He's been in Congress already and has a record. His foreign policy is decent. Rand will cover his weaknesses on guns (1 vote in the 90s) and Medicaid (Rand can do health reform).

Rand isn't going to nominate a regular, typical Republican to be his VP nominee if he wins the GOP nomination. That simply wouldn't work as their views would be so different. He's going to pick someone along the lines of Lee, Cruz, or Amash if he ends up winning the nomination.

[thoughtomator]

Check it out, a major talking head finally admitted that the dominant faction in the GOP is interventionist - and used that word explicitly. Score one more for the good guys.

[AuH20]

Check it out, a major talking head finally admitted that the dominant faction in the GOP is interventionist - and used that word explicitly. Score one more for the good guys.

And there has been no other game in town for quite some time. It's been either vote for the interventionists or the psychos in the democratic party. Drip, drip, drip.... At this point, it doesn't matter anymore. The doomsday clock reads 11:30 o'clock and hopefull Rand and Co. aren't too late.

[NewRightLibertarian]

Rand isn't going to nominate a regular, typical Republican to be his VP nominee if he wins the GOP nomination. That simply wouldn't work as their views would be so different. He's going to pick someone along the lines of Lee, Cruz, or Amash if he ends up winning the nomination.

Hopefully Amash. Cruz more likely though if he can somehow win the nomination

[AuH20]

Hopefully Amash. Cruz more likely though if he can somehow win the nomination

I wouldn't want to take Cruz out of the senate though. He needs a woman.

[TNforPaul45]

I guess an electric "thrill" runs up Krauthammer's leg everytime we bomb children in a foreign country :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

[Carlybee]

I guess an electric "thrill" runs up Krauthammer's leg everytime we bomb children in a foreign country :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:


I'm sure it does, he was right there with all those PNAC guys who wanted to pursue global dominance.

[NewRightLibertarian]

I wouldn't want to take Cruz out of the senate though. He needs a woman.

Any good liberty minded females out there in a national position. Ben Carson might be a good one if he's the real deal.

[fr33]

Krauthammer is just a puppet who says what he's told to say. I'll never forget how he used to complain about the drones over America (his infamous "folk hero" quote) until Rand's filibuster. Then he immediately had no problem with drones over America.

[AuH20]

Any good liberty minded females out there in a national position. Ben Carson might be a good one if he's the real deal.

Mia Love isn't bad but she has no real political experience, aside from being a small-time mayor.

[BuddyRey]

There was a time when stuff like this would make me mad, but now I just laugh at it. They're so desperately afraid of our amassing influence that they're in an absolute death-spiral of pitifully ineffective damage control. None of their magical incantations about "the tur'rists" work anymore, and they know it. The pundits are getting to be delightfully hilarious parodies of themselves.

[Brian4Liberty]

Neocon voters certainly care. I am speaking to those Republican voters that blame Obama for everything. Those neocon Republican voters that thought they had to hold their nose and vote for Romney because anything was better than Obama and they wanted more than anything to defeat the Kenyan. Those voters didn't want Romney but felt that he was the lesser of two evils and bought the bullshit that he was electable. Those voters are pissed. Those voters do NOT want to see Hillary win in 2016. Those voters hate the liberal media and believe the propaganda from FOX News because it is their only alternative to the commie bastards at CNN and MSNBC. Neocon voters are our neighbours and they aren't as into politics as we here are, but they know one thing for sure... they want desperately to defeat the Democrats.

Rand Paul will be the union of libertarian voters and mainstream Republican voters. He will stand out from the pretenders that all voters are sick of. He will win the Republican nomination if he is alive.

I hear ya.

Unfortunately for us, there is a vast number of "conservative" people who do not understand the true nature of neo-conservatism. They hear the neo-conservative pundits (Kristol, Krauthammer) and their politicians (Graham, McCain, Rubio) say things that they like, and then hear others say "that is neo-conservative". Then they believe that they, themselves, are neo-conservative. They don't have enough information to know that they are being lied to by modern, Trotskyite global socialists.

In reality, the rank and file GOP are the natural members of the Constitutional conservatives, libertarian-leaning Republicans, and small government advocates. The lies of the neo-conservatives are unraveling. They can not attack Rand without exposing their true nature.

[Feeding the Abscess]

Krauthammer is just a puppet who says what he's told to say. I'll never forget how he used to complain about the drones over America (his infamous "folk hero" quote) until Rand's filibuster. Then he immediately had no problem with drones over America.

That's how neocons work. They ingratiate themselves to voters by appealing to 'freedom' (as vague as that word is) to get and keep in power, then freely pursue whatever they want.

[AuH20]

In the recent PPP Poll, Rand only has 78% support of the party. The other 22% being the Bush/GOP loyalists I warned you about. Most republicans are pretty open-minded and not cold blooded but that 1/4 will go to their graves in a trance. This 22% could easily end up costing him the general election bigtime. He'll do fine with blue collar dems in the midwest and the independents. It's the goddamn Bush holdovers who are dangerous.

[Brian4Liberty]

I work for one of those Neocon voters who said to me: "There's nothing wrong with security cameras, I think they should be everywhere."

Do the brainwashed know that they are brainwashed? They will come around, eventually. Nothing will piss them off more than when they finally realize that they have been lied to by the neo-conservatives.

[AuH20]

Do the brainwashed know that they are brainwashed? They will come around, eventually. Nothing will piss them off more than when they finally realize that they have been lied to by the neo-conservatives.

Read my post above yours for the answer. And there aren't alot of these voters, despite them being the most vocal. But there are enough to thwart us in a titanic battle with the Ice Queen.

[Occam's Banana]

Charles Krauthammer described New Jersey Governor Chris Christie’s attack on Kentucky Senator Rand Paul’s foreign-policy views “fearless,” “electrifying,” and “an extremely important moment.”

I absolutely love this. Seriously. When neo-cons feel driven to apply such overblown rhetoric to describe utterly establishmentarian pronouncements like Christie's, then you know they've been badly rattled and are getting desperate.

Just consider one of the terms Krauthammer used: "fearless". Now what, pray tell, was "fearless" about what Christie said? It was just a straightforward regurgitation of the same sort of pablum that the government, the media, and neo-connish pundits have been feeding us for years. What "backlash" - what negative consequences - does Krauthammer imagine Christie risked by spouting shop-worn establishment talking points and cynically invoking tawdry emotionalism?

And "electrifying" ... ?? LMAO!! Yeah, right! Christie is really galvanizing the rank-and-file grassroots - who are just chomping at the bit in their enthusiasm for the "lots more of the same-old-same-old" neo-conservative agenda. What a joke!

Christie's dime-per-dozen defense of the status quo was about as "fearless" as a lion-tamer facing down a newborn cub. And it was about as "electrifying" as watching a sycophant smooching rectums.

Look at Justin Amash's efforts at curtailing the NSA's excesses - now THAT was "fearless," "electrifying," and "an extremely important moment." Christie's blather, on the other hand, is notable ONLY because of its jousty truculence. And best of all, Krauthammer & Co. know BOTH of these things - and are desperately trying to cover up the difference.

[RP Supporter]

Maybe John Kasich is the midwestern governor we need. He's been in Congress already and has a record. His foreign policy is decent. Rand will cover his weaknesses on guns (1 vote in the 90s) and Medicaid (Rand can do health reform).

I'd say definitely no. I recall watching the show Kasich used to have on Fox. He mentioned serving with Ron one night and made some personal attacks on the man.

Ah found it, on our very own forum no less.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?67714-John-Kasich-goes-off-on-Ron-Paul-Last-Night-on-Fox

Choice quote


Get outta here with that guy! You know, it's just unbelievable to me he's got this traction and I know I'm going to get a lot of nasty emails and blogs saying I don't get libertarians. I do. I think the guy, he's... he's out of another orbit as far as I'm concerned.

I'd rather not have someone like that as even a vp.

[GunnyFreedom]

another gem from Charles "The Kraut Hammer"

Made me think of this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a6WAzstGmA

[GunnyFreedom]

I think it's great because it's bringing to light something many of us have been saying all along...you cannot build coalitions with some of these people...they have their own agenda.

It also says something to the regular-joe GOP voter. See, we always knew that you couldn't build coalitions with these people, but nevertheless you have to try, and to make real effort to try sincerely. Now the more plain it becomes that WE are the ones trying to build the coalition while THEY are the ones rejecting us, the easier it will be to win the mainstream voter, because we are the mature adults in the room and they are the spoiled whining children.

I can't say enough how much more effective it is for our purposes to make them publicly stab themselves in the eye while we are the adults trying to take the dangerous toys away from the foolish children.

[angelatc]

Any good liberty minded females out there in a national position. Ben Carson might be a good one if he's the real deal.

Ben Carson is not a Second AMendment guy.

[fr33]

Charles Krauthammer : First guy that brings a Domestic Drone down will be a folk hero (May 14, 2012)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWzVXcF9qIc

Krauthammer Mocks Rand Paul For 'Absurd And Ridiculous' Drone Concerns: 'Not A Serious Issue' (March 11 2013)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Iqs-FYkGv0

Krauthammer is a puppet that says what he is told to say. He will flip flop on a dime. He represents the neoconservative establishment.

[Brian4Liberty]

Look at Justin Amash's efforts at curtailing the NSA's excesses - now THAT was "fearless," "electrifying," and "an extremely important moment." Christie's blather, on the other hand, is notable ONLY because of its jousty truculence. And best of all, Krauthammer & Co. know BOTH of these things - and are desperately trying to cover up the difference.

+rep

[Brian4Liberty]

Charles Krauthammer : First guy that brings a Domestic Drone down will be a folk hero (May 14, 2012)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWzVXcF9qIc

Krauthammer Mocks Rand Paul For 'Absurd And Ridiculous' Drone Concerns: 'Not A Serious Issue' (March 11 2013)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Iqs-FYkGv0

Krauthammer is a puppet that says what he is told to say. He will flip flop on a dime. He represents the neoconservative establishment.

Just a liar.

[AlexAmore]

In the recent PPP Poll, Rand only has 78% support of the party. The other 22% being the Bush/GOP loyalists I warned you about. Most republicans are pretty open-minded and not cold blooded but that 1/4 will go to their graves in a trance. This 22% could easily end up costing him the general election bigtime. He'll do fine with blue collar dems in the midwest and the independents. It's the goddamn Bush holdovers who are dangerous.

I wonder if we can make that up with an insurgence of independent, apathetic voters. A general election is something almost everyone pays attention too including the freaking world. I think a Libertarian message would play well in this situation.

[eduardo89]

Electrifying...that's how I wish Krauthammer's chair would feel.

[Paulatized]

It also says something to the regular-joe GOP voter. See, we always knew that you couldn't build coalitions with these people, but nevertheless you have to try, and to make real effort to try sincerely. Now the more plain it becomes that WE are the ones trying to build the coalition while THEY are the ones rejecting us, the easier it will be to win the mainstream voter, because we are the mature adults in the room and they are the spoiled whining children.

I can't say enough how much more effective it is for our purposes to make them publicly stab themselves in the eye while we are the adults trying to take the dangerous toys away from the foolish children.

Well said and an excellent point!

[Anti Federalist]

In the recent PPP Poll, Rand only has 78% support of the party. The other 22% being the Bush/GOP loyalists I warned you about. Most republicans are pretty open-minded and not cold blooded but that 1/4 will go to their graves in a trance. This 22% could easily end up costing him the general election bigtime. He'll do fine with blue collar dems in the midwest and the independents. It's the goddamn Bush holdovers who are dangerous.

I don't think so.

They won't stay home in Rand/Hitlery struggle.

Good, I say.

Let those fuckers hold their nose for once.

[Carlybee]

It also says something to the regular-joe GOP voter. See, we always knew that you couldn't build coalitions with these people, but nevertheless you have to try, and to make real effort to try sincerely. Now the more plain it becomes that WE are the ones trying to build the coalition while THEY are the ones rejecting us, the easier it will be to win the mainstream voter, because we are the mature adults in the room and they are the spoiled whining children.

I can't say enough how much more effective it is for our purposes to make them publicly stab themselves in the eye while we are the adults trying to take the dangerous toys away from the foolish children.

good point

[CaptUSA]

I find it terribly beautiful and ironic that the last gasps of the henchmen of the tyrants bring together everyone in the liberty movement. Sure, we may disagree about a lot of things... a LOT of things... but when they come at one of us, we come back twice as hard and with twice as many numbers. Ron Paul's legacy is amazing!

[FSP-Rebel]

I find it terribly beautiful and ironic that the last gasps of the henchmen of the tyrants bring together everyone in the liberty movement. Sure, we may disagree about a lot of things... a LOT of things... but when they come at one of us, we come back twice as hard and with twice as many numbers. Ron Paul's legacy is amazing!
:D:cool:

[Brian4Liberty]

I absolutely love this. Seriously. When neo-cons feel driven to apply such overblown rhetoric to describe utterly establishmentarian pronouncements like Christie's, then you know they've been badly rattled and are getting desperate.


They have to be desperate. Up till now, the true neo-conservative backroom agenda has been based on a strategy of secrecy and stealth, lies and manipulations. Taking off the gloves and coming out in the light leaves them vulnerable for more exposure than they want. They prefer to have their politicians like Graham and McCain out there taking the punches.

The have been forced to come out. The combination of Rand, Mike Lee and Ted Cruz has become too popular to the mainstream GOP. Then Amash leads a huge, nearly successful campaign to save the Fourth Amendment in the House. They are trying to rally whoever will listen to them anymore, and they are getting the angry "Eric Bolling" response back. Not good news for Kristol and Krauthammer.

[Britannia]

If dear old Charlie doesn't understand the rather significant difference between isolationism and non-interventionism he really ought not to be on a panel discussing politics at all.

[eduardo89]

If dear old Charlie doesn't understand the rather significant difference between isolationism and non-interventionism he really ought not to be on a panel discussing politics at all.

This is a guy who doesn't know the difference between donuts and vegetables...

[Dr.3D]

If dear old Charlie doesn't understand the rather significant difference between isolationism and non-interventionism he really ought not to be on a panel discussing politics at all.

I suspect he knows the difference but would rather use the incorrect term so as to make the person he is talking about look bad in the eyes of those he is talking to.

[muh_roads]

Krauthammer. The ultimate neocon fuckstick.


majority of the GOP, which is interventionist.

Keeping the sheep dumb means more metal for us and less for the retards before realizing it is too late.

[georgiaboy]

thread of win.

Charles doth hyperbole too much.

[Christian Liberty]

Well the majority of GOP might very well be interventionist, but they can't win without our votes. If they go down the McCain/Romney road again with some liberal Republican like Christie, they will again suffer defeat to the liberal Democrats.

NOTICE TO NEOCONS:
We have you and your party by the balls. If you want to win the White House, you will need to give us what we want. We will throw the baby out with the bath water because liberal Republicans and not better than liberal Democrats to us. In fact we will kick your liberal baby right out of the fucking tub and toss his naked ass out into the street crying like the little bitch that he is! If you doubt us, just ask crazy old RINO Juan McCain or east coast RINO Mitt Flopney.

But... but Obama is the antichrist and Romney could save the party from the Kenyan Marxist!

This is the logical equivalent of the arguments I get against refusing to condone the GOP as the "lesser of two evils."

I wouldn't even say that the majority of the GOP is interventionist, at least not among Republican voters, and probably not even in the house of reps. Didn't the house of reps pass two amendments by voice vote that deny funding for intervention in Syria and Egypt?

Define "Interventionist." I don't think the average Republican is as bad as Lindsey Graham, but I do think they are worried about "radical Islam" to way too great a degree, and most of them are afraid of Iran. I'd say they probably have more in common with Ted Cruz than Rand Paul, but could probably be convinced to vote for Rand.

Cruz's numbers would likely be very high if people knew who he was. Rand Paul people need to make sure people either don't know about Cruz, or know that he wasn't born in the US.


No worries, we will all unite behind Rand. The typical Republican voter that did not get on board with Ron like Rand much better. He will destroy candidates like Christie.

Hopefully, but then there's the media crap, and the false belief that Rubio is actually a tea party conservative.


Rand isn't going to nominate a regular, typical Republican to be his VP nominee if he wins the GOP nomination. That simply wouldn't work as their views would be so different. He's going to pick someone along the lines of Lee, Cruz, or Amash if he ends up winning the nomination.

If Rand nominated Cruz, I would seriously consider going LP. In fact, I'd almost certainly considering I live in NYS.

I don't trust Cruz. If its Rand Paul and Ted Cruz, mark my works, Cruz will be President within a year.

And while I freely acknowledge he's not quite as much of a hawk as Lindsey Graham, I view him as a different grade on the same scale. I don't view him as an actual liberty, constitutional candidate like I do admittedly flawed people like Rand Paul, Justin Amash, and (First instinct, with reservations) Mike Lee.