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Lucille
07-26-2013, 11:52 AM
I have my doubts that it was racially motivated, and had more to do with the type of business it is. That informant would have planted the coke no matter what color the biz owner happened to be.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMA1Otuat2U&feature=share

LibertyEagle
07-26-2013, 11:58 AM
That is OUTRAGEOUS! And the damn police chief denies it!! SOB policemen who were involved should be arrested themselves and the Chief of Police, thrown out on his ass.

angelatc
07-26-2013, 12:00 PM
The guy planting the drugs was not a cop, it was an informant. The chief is denying that the informant was acting at the behest of the cops, although I'm guessing they didn't have him just visit a head shop at random, either.

aGameOfThrones
07-26-2013, 12:03 PM
http://replygif.net/i/253.gif

LibertyEagle
07-26-2013, 12:09 PM
The guy planting the drugs was not a cop, it was an informant. The chief is denying that the informant was acting at the behest of the cops, although I'm guessing they didn't have him just visit a head shop at random, either.

Ok thanks. You clearly listened better than I did. I too seriously doubt he decided to plant those drugs on his own.

Lucille
07-26-2013, 12:09 PM
Thanks for pointing that out, Angela!

pcosmar
07-26-2013, 12:14 PM
That is OUTRAGEOUS!
That is a common everyday reality.

Standard Operating Procedure

Not strange,, not rare and not unknown.. Getting it on tape is the only rare part.

angelatc
07-26-2013, 12:16 PM
Thanks for pointing that out, Angela!

I hate having to stick up for the cops, especially when I think they're probably lying. I find the fact that the informant is now missing to be interesting. If he shows up later, we might get the real story. If he turns up a suicide, we'll definitely know the whole story.

pcosmar
07-26-2013, 12:17 PM
The guy planting the drugs was not a cop, it was an informant. The chief is denying that the informant was acting at the behest of the cops, although I'm guessing they didn't have him just visit a head shop at random, either.

Plausible DENIABILITY.

Yes,,, there is a term for it.

satchelmcqueen
07-26-2013, 02:47 PM
race had nothing to do with it. but the informant was used so that a cop wouldnt be charged even though they allowed him to take the drugs in. either he had them as his own, or the cops gave them to him. either way the cops were busted thank god.

kcchiefs6465
07-26-2013, 03:00 PM
Adam Kokesh.

KEEF
07-26-2013, 03:03 PM
Wow! Overall I am not really surprised, but am floored every time I see or read a story like that.

amy31416
07-26-2013, 03:19 PM
I have my doubts that it was racially motivated, and had more to do with the type of business it is. That informant would have planted the coke no matter what color the biz owner happened to be.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMA1Otuat2U&feature=share



Anybody else get this when they tried to click on the link?

403 FORBIDDEN!

Either the address you are accessing this site from has been banned for previous malicious behavior or the action you attempted is considered to be hostile to the proper functioning of this system.

The detected reason(s) you were blocked are:
You came from a http_referer slandering pharmacy scam/porn/linksite.

Your IP, and Domain Name (if resolvable) has been logged to a local honeypot, along with the referring page (if any), QUERY, POST, User Agent, time of access, and date. Please either 1. Stop the bad behavior, or 2. Cease accessing this system.

The webmaster of this site has decided to provide you with an e-mail link to start a trouble ticket about this block.
Please do not change the beginning of the subject line, nor the preamble of the body text.

Click HERE to start a trouble ticket.
Your connection details:
Record #: 40837
Time: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 17:13:15 -0400
Running: none of your business
Host: none of your business
IP: none of your business
Post:
Query: extend.5522
Stripped Query: extend.5522
Referer: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?422405-police-caught-planting-drugs-in-small-business
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36
Reconstructed URL: http:// wendymcelroy.com /news.php?extend.5522


Not sure what this stuff is about.

Dr.3D
07-26-2013, 03:23 PM
Anybody else get this when they tried to click on the link?

403 FORBIDDEN!

Either the address you are accessing this site from has been banned for previous malicious behavior or the action you attempted is considered to be hostile to the proper functioning of this system.

The detected reason(s) you were blocked are:
You came from a http_referer slandering pharmacy scam/porn/linksite.

Your IP, and Domain Name (if resolvable) has been logged to a local honeypot, along with the referring page (if any), QUERY, POST, User Agent, time of access, and date. Please either 1. Stop the bad behavior, or 2. Cease accessing this system.

The webmaster of this site has decided to provide you with an e-mail link to start a trouble ticket about this block.
Please do not change the beginning of the subject line, nor the preamble of the body text.

Click HERE to start a trouble ticket.
Your connection details:
Record #: 40837
Time: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 17:13:15 -0400
Running: none of your business
Host: none of your business
IP: none of your business
Post:
Query: extend.5522
Stripped Query: extend.5522
Referer: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?422405-police-caught-planting-drugs-in-small-business
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.72 Safari/537.36
Reconstructed URL: http:// wendymcelroy.com /news.php?extend.5522


Not sure what this stuff is about.

Yeah, I get the same thing.

Lucille
07-26-2013, 03:24 PM
^ Bizarre. WTH is going on? It seems like I'm having all sorts of problems when I post links today.

mad cow
07-26-2013, 03:30 PM
What do they have against local honeypots? :confused:

Some of my best friends...

kcchiefs6465
07-26-2013, 03:31 PM
You came from a http_referer slandering pharmacy scam/porn/linksite.
Apparently the website doesn't think very highly of RPF?

aGameOfThrones
07-26-2013, 03:33 PM
Sheriff: procedure wasn't followed.

News: can you explain that better?

Sheriff: well, the informant didn't plant the drugs better.

Dr.3D
07-26-2013, 03:35 PM
^ Bizarre. WTH is going on? It seems like I'm having all sorts of problems when I post links today.

http://www.wendymcelroy.com/news.php?extend.5522

No, the link was good, I just had to copy it to another tab to get it to work right. Apparently they are objecting to having it started from RPF.

DamianTV
07-26-2013, 03:35 PM
Remember that it is ACCEPTABLE FOR COPS TO LIE IN COURT in order to get a confession of Guilt from YOU. Same thing goes for planting evidence. They can plant evidence, but you arent even allowed to delete your browsing history.

Lucille
07-26-2013, 03:35 PM
No, the link was good, I just had to copy it to another tab to get it to work right. Apparently they are objecting to having it started from RPF.

I don't know why. She's a fan of RP, at least I thought she was.

Could I have something malicious on my computer? I'm running a scan now. FFS, I'm kind of scared.

It does seem like that what you said though. I can access her site via a search or just typing her URL.

amy31416
07-26-2013, 03:35 PM
...............

Dr.3D
07-26-2013, 03:36 PM
That link gives me the same result.

You have to copy it to a separate tab or window to get it to work. I guess they don't like the RPF referrer.

pcosmar
07-26-2013, 03:40 PM
Anybody else get this when they tried to click on the link?



Yup,, but works fine when opened in a new tab. I think this site is blocked,, (which is dumb)
But no problem accessing without the referral.

amy31416
07-26-2013, 03:41 PM
You have to copy it to a separate tab or window to get it to work. I guess they don't like the RPF referrer.

Yeah--figured that part out. Just wanted to try twice to see if it turned out the same. I wonder if it's her host--not sure how those things work.

Lucille
07-26-2013, 03:41 PM
Yeah--figured that part out. Just wanted to try twice to see if it turned out the same. I wonder if it's her host--not sure how those things work.

I hope that's the case. I should do the ticket I guess, and see what she says.

Lucille
07-26-2013, 03:43 PM
When I clicked again to do the ticket, I got this:

Error 503 : Service Temporarily Unavailable

Lucille
07-26-2013, 03:44 PM
It's looks like it's a server issue, but just in case, would you guys do me a favor and delete the link I posted that you quoted, just in case all my information pops up again for whoever clicks it?

KEEF
07-26-2013, 03:46 PM
I got
The detected reason(s) you were blocked are:
You came from a http_referer slandering pharmacy scam/porn/linksite.

too when I clicked on the original link. Now the NSA (if they hadn't already) has some dirt on each one of us.

pcosmar
07-26-2013, 03:51 PM
The detected reason(s) you were blocked are:
You came from a http_referer slandering pharmacy scam/porn/linksite.

Seems that an Admin should know this.

reported my own post.

Anti Federalist
07-26-2013, 03:55 PM
That is a common everyday reality.

Standard Operating Procedure

Not strange,, not rare and not unknown.. Getting it on tape is the only rare part.

Yeah usually there is a "malfunction".

Just another day in the land of the free.

DamianTV
07-26-2013, 03:56 PM
The detected reason(s) you were blocked are:
You came from a http_referer slandering pharmacy scam/porn/linksite.

This is VERY easy to get around. BREAK THE LINK, copy and paste into Address Bar.

In more technical terms, when you click on a link, that is where the REFERER comes from. But just taking the URL (the thing that has http://www.something.com in it) and put it is directly into your Address Bar (that is the part of the webpage that says http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?12345), it breaks the REFERER.

RonPaulForums is on someones shit list.

---

Edit: Forgot something. When we break links, we change HTTP to HXXP. So when you copy and paste that back in your address bar, dont forget to change HXXP back to HTTP to get to the site.

Anti Federalist
07-26-2013, 03:57 PM
You have to copy it to a separate tab or window to get it to work. I guess they don't like the RPF referrer.

That's that damn Vig-link shit, I'm guessing.

Ghostery blocks it.

Lucille
07-26-2013, 04:01 PM
TY for removing it, Amy!

Will someone please click on the link in Dr. 3D's post (#19) and see if you get the 503 or the other block message? I'm getting the Error 503 : Service Temporarily Unavailable.

Lucille
07-26-2013, 04:02 PM
That's that damn Vig-link shit, I'm guessing.

Ghostery blocks it.

Donnay and I were getting that earlier in another thread (www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?422106-Common-Modern-Foods-Which-Cause-DNA-Damage&p=5144545). Is it something on my end?

angelatc
07-26-2013, 04:04 PM
That's that damn Vig-link shit, I'm guessing.

Ghostery blocks it.
I'm using ghostery and I got blocked.

Anti Federalist
07-26-2013, 04:08 PM
Donnay and I were getting that earlier in another thread (www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?422106-Common-Modern-Foods-Which-Cause-DNA-Damage&p=5144545). Is it something on my end?

No, pretty sure it is on RPF's end.

Anti Federalist
07-26-2013, 04:09 PM
I'm using ghostery and I got blocked.

Weird, went right through for me.

But I'm behind nine proxies also, soooo....;)

Anti Federalist
07-26-2013, 04:12 PM
This is what happens when the state decides you do have "something to hide".

They plant it on you.

Could be dope, guns, kiddie porn, state secrets...doesn't really matter what.

Happens every day.

Lucille
07-26-2013, 04:13 PM
I'm using ghostery and I got blocked.

Is it still showing all my info? Or did you get the 503?

DamianTV
07-26-2013, 04:16 PM
Donnay and I were getting that earlier in another thread (www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?422106-Common-Modern-Foods-Which-Cause-DNA-Damage&p=5144545). Is it something on my end?

I saw that, replied in that thread too. On that one, I am quite certain it is a problem on their end.

Error 503: Typically a problem on their end. Possibly like they didnt pay their web hosting bill...

Im running through a VPN so I can appear to be coming from literally anywhere in the world that I want. Even with a VPN, HTTP Referers are still sent, so using a VPN service wont help at all there if they are checking specifically for people clicking on links from RonPaulForums.com. When those servers give less specific information, like Error 503 which is more cryptic, it is possible that they are blocking Referers, or Countries. So I set my VPN to connect to the website through the Netherlands, and copy and paste the link in my browser, and it should resove both issues if blocked by either Country or HTTP Referer. Still got the same error message which tells me that error 503 has nothing to do with either Country or RonPaulForums.com.

Lucille
07-26-2013, 04:19 PM
Thanks again, Damian!

pcosmar
07-26-2013, 04:21 PM
Is it still showing all my info? Or did you get the 503?

Getting the 503 now,, was able earlier,, and did send a feedback to her on it.

devil21
07-26-2013, 04:40 PM
"Informant" looks like a cop. Large build, close cut hair, etc.

Brian4Liberty
07-26-2013, 05:07 PM
"It's racist!"

Yeah, ok. No white person has ever been arrested or shut-down for drugs. :rolleyes:

Ender
07-26-2013, 06:10 PM
I have my doubts that it was racially motivated, and had more to do with the type of business it is. That informant would have planted the coke no matter what color the biz owner happened to be.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMA1Otuat2U&feature=share

If it's crack cocaine then it is definitely racially motivated. Crack is used by the poorer blacks and has much harsher penalties than powder, which is predominately used by whites.

Brian4Liberty
07-26-2013, 06:17 PM
If it's crack cocaine then it is definitely racially motivated. Crack is used by the poorer blacks and has much harsher penalties than powder, which is predominately used by whites.

You don't smoke powder cocaine in pipes.

kcchiefs6465
07-26-2013, 06:20 PM
..... definitely.....
Not really.

Ender
07-26-2013, 06:22 PM
You don't smoke powder cocaine in pipes.

And....?

Didn't look at the vid because of all the problems- just making an observation?

Brian4Liberty
07-26-2013, 06:42 PM
And....?

Didn't look at the vid because of all the problems- just making an observation?

Setting up a smoke shop would work best with a smoke-able drug. Crack or crystal meth would be the cheapest options, with the biggest bang for the bust buck.

Ender
07-26-2013, 06:42 PM
Not really.


Supreme Court Expands Impact Of Fair Sentencing Act

By Guest Blogger on Jun 22, 2012 at 10:30 am

Yesterday the Supreme Court ruled that the Fair Sentencing Act applies to people convicted before the act was passed but sentenced afterwards. The Fair Sentencing Act, signed into law by President Obama in 2010, was designed to reduce the disparity between the mandatory minimums for crack cocaine offenses as compared to powder cocaine offenses.

The decision failed to follow the pattern of most recent criminal justice cases; it was decided by a vote of 5-4 but in this case Justice Anthony Kennedy sided with “liberals” on the court. Reuters notes:

Writing the court’s majority opinion, Justice Stephen Breyer said Congress intended the law’s more lenient penalties to apply to offenders who committed their crimes before August 3, 2010, but were sentenced after that date. [...]

In the opinion, Breyer said applying the more lenient penalties to all those sentenced after August 3, 2010, made it possible to foresee a reasonably smooth transition under new federal guidelines calling for lower sentences involving crack cocaine.

The court’s decision could affect thousands of defendants who were sentenced under the old, harsher guidelines. Prior to the Fair Sentencing Act, it took 100 grams of powder cocaine to trigger the same minimum sentence as one gram of crack cocaine. The Fair Sentencing Act reduced the disparity from 100-to-one to 18-to-one.

Even under the new guidelines the mandatory minimum disparity continues to have a racially discrimination impact, because most powder cocaine users are white, while most crack cocaine users are black. When the Fair Sentencing Act was passed, black Americans made up roughly 13 percent of the population and 14 percent of monthly illegal drug users, but made up 80 percent of people convicted of a federal crack cocaine offense.

Marc Mauer, executive director of the Sentencing Project, hailed the ruling, saying: “[t]oday’s decision marks another step toward racial fairness.”

–Alex Brown

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/06/22/503881/supreme-court-expands-impact-of-fair-sentencing-act/?mobile=nc

pcosmar
07-26-2013, 06:44 PM
You don't smoke powder cocaine in pipes.

And crack heads don't spend $30 for a pipe.

kcchiefs6465
07-26-2013, 06:49 PM
Crack cocaine is cheap. They smoke it in the ghettos because of that.

More blacks live in the ghetto.

And I would doubt the sources that say blacks smoke crack cocaine more heavily than whites.

This may be racist. I doubt it. And goddamn it if I'm not getting tired of hearing about race every story.

You want me to find you a story of a white man smoking crack cocaine? Videos of them dancing or whoring themselves for crumbs? Drugs being planted?

It isn't that uncommon for whites or blacks. Is it racist that mushrooms were planted on Adam Kokesh considering he is white?

Speaking of which, if they wanted to give his ass some years that's what they would have planted. Crack cocaine was probably prevalent in the area which is why it was used. Not to mention it is cheap.

If the man was white the black caucus or whoever the hell it was wouldn't have said a word about it. What is really racist?

jclay2
07-26-2013, 06:50 PM
Well if these cops are never judged in this life, I can assure you all that they will be judged in the next.

liberty2897
07-26-2013, 07:04 PM
These cops should throw themselves under the bus along with their informant.

really sick.

Anti Federalist
07-26-2013, 07:05 PM
What is really racist?

Just like the law, when everything is, nothing is.

Anti Federalist
07-26-2013, 07:11 PM
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRqARThdJtRlTJDrCK_TGRD2PNbUB9kp 8lNibo-2UZpHzemHyY2

Lucille
08-26-2013, 11:32 AM
I hate to drag this thread back up, since there was so much trouble over the McElroy link. They were great about it and tried to unblock me (I'm still unable to access the site, so now that I dragged it out of my mail, I'll write to them again, because I really miss it!), and said I could share the letter:


Hi,

I'm sorry that about the inadvertent block. It has been fixed -- you
should be able to visit that link now. By the way, rest assured that it
did not display your IP address to anyone but you.

So you know what happened: we run some protective software, called
ZBBlock, that protects our web sites from spambots and some
denial-of-service attacks. It analyzes several parts of the request to
look for suspicious words. In this case, the referring page -- the page
that linked to Wendy's blog -- was this web page:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?422405-police-caught-planting-drugs-in-small-business

Unfortunately ZBBlock saw "drugs-" in that URL, and wrongly concluded
that the link was coming from a phony online pharmacy. So anyone who
clicked on the link, directly from that ronpaulforums web page, would
get the Forbidden error message. It's the word "drugs-" in the URL
that trips the alarm; nothing to do with ronpaulforums.com. If,
instead, you copy and paste the link into the browser, it works ok.

Given the subjects on which Wendy writes, it's silly to have a blocking
rule for the word "drugs-", so I have removed that rule. The link
should work directly from your forum now. Thanks very much for finding
this problem and reporting it to us!

Regards,
Brad (webmaster)

P.S. Feel free to share my reply with anyone who was concerned, or to
post it on the forum.

Regards,
Brad (webmaster)

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
08-26-2013, 11:35 AM
I got

too when I clicked on the original link. Now the NSA (if they hadn't already) has some dirt on each one of us.


Unless you know otherwise, they've archived every post you've ever made here. And even if you think otherwise, you only needed to slip once.

Lucille
08-26-2013, 11:37 AM
Now for the update:

Police Videotaped Planting Crack Cocaine in a Man’s Store so they Could Arrest Him
http://www.techyville.com/2013/08/news/police-videotaped-planting-crack-cocaine-in-a-mans-store-so-they-could-arrest-him/


A shocking video is now making its way around the Internet. The video involves a man who was under police suspicion for selling drugs, even though he wasn’t selling anything illegal. The man, Donald Andrews Jr., ran a smoke shop in Schenectady County, New York.

Law enforcement officials in the area were suspicious of the man and regularly sent undercover officers to do surveillance on his store. During one trip, an officer is caught in plain view of store cameras pulling out a small bit of crack cocaine and putting it on the counter when no one was looking.

“He comes in, places the crack on the counter. Crack, which under federal sentencing guidelines, would get him 4 years in jail. Under New York State law would get him 2 to 7 years in jail,” attorney Kevin Luibrand said while narrating the video for an audience that was in stunned by what they saw.

The community is outraged over the incident. The Schenectady chapter of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference has taken the lead on the matter, expressing their shock and concern over the incident.

Schenectady County Sheriff Dominic Dagostino reportedly told WNYT-TV that procedures weren’t followed and that the rogue cop who planted the evidence is now on the run. Andrews is in the middle of filing a wrongful arrest lawsuit against the police department...

So he was not an informant but a "rogue cop." I was wrong when I said it wasn't racially motivated:


There are many, many smoke shops in the capital region, but the rest are owned by white people (http://boingboing.net/2013/07/26/head-shop-cctv-catches-police.html).

devil21
08-27-2013, 02:20 AM
Yep, nailed it. He definitely fit the physical profile of a cop, not some random street snitch.