The DHS says it is illegal to freely play music in The United, for free atleast.

[ZENemy]

I dont care what ISM it is, either way its total control.



The Department of Homeland Security (An agency enacted through the Patriot Act) is now demanding through enforcement from The State Fire Marshalls that ALL LIVE MUSIC PLAYED IN THE UNITED STATES MUST HAVE A PERMIT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY.


http://iamnotanonymousblog.com/?p=216

Link to legislation

http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/2010/title22/ar14/ch3.html

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

I don't see DHS in the legislation. What am I missing?

[Anti Federalist]

I don't see DHS in the legislation. What am I missing?

In the comments, some clarity:


Jessica July 23, 2013 at 12:11 am



As it turns out, the linked article above is… well, pretty grossly incorrect. The situation, which involves the Indiana Dept. of Homeland Security (not the Federal agency), is about health & safety inspections of show venues (which for whatever damned reason has been tasked to the IDHS in Indiana). It has nothing to do with “free music” and everything to do with trying to prevent a repeat of, say, the 2011 Rhode Island night club fire (where a hundred patrons were killed). The Indiana Licensed Beverage Association is fighting this… as such business organisations have fought against inspection laws for as long as such have existed on the books.

Here’s a news article on the conflict: http://www.munciefreepress.com/node/29089

Reply

Michael MartinJuly 23, 2013 at 4:05 pm



Jessica,
Your opinion and research are appreciated, but what you’re saying is incorrect and the write up from http://www.munciefreepress.com does not show the true light of the situation. This is true that the Indiana State Fair case is used as a justification for this law, but it is not why they are using this law in this situation. The law which I have linked here at the bottom of this comment mostly reads about outdoor concerts such as the one at the state fair. There is also one line toward the end that reads “or places where persons are employed”. That is the line that the DHS is using to place itself in any business and have oversight of live music. I was interviewed for that article you referenced. We do not even have a stage or lights. We are a 48 person hamburger joint which happens to be owned by musicians who play music there too.

The hearing I have is at The Indiana State House on Aug. 2nd at 11am. This is real. Here is the law that The DHS is using to justify it.

http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/2010/title22/ar14/ch3.html

[phill4paul]

In the comments, some clarity:


Jessica July 23, 2013 at 12:11 am



As it turns out, the linked article above is… well, pretty grossly incorrect. The situation, which involves the Indiana Dept. of Homeland Security (not the Federal agency), is about health & safety inspections of show venues (which for whatever damned reason has been tasked to the IDHS in Indiana). It has nothing to do with “free music” and everything to do with trying to prevent a repeat of, say, the 2011 Rhode Island night club fire (where a hundred patrons were killed). The Indiana Licensed Beverage Association is fighting this… as such business organisations have fought against inspection laws for as long as such have existed on the books.

Here’s a news article on the conflict: http://www.munciefreepress.com/node/29089

Reply

Michael MartinJuly 23, 2013 at 4:05 pm



Jessica,
Your opinion and research are appreciated, but what you’re saying is incorrect and the write up from http://www.munciefreepress.com does not show the true light of the situation. This is true that the Indiana State Fair case is used as a justification for this law, but it is not why they are using this law in this situation. The law which I have linked here at the bottom of this comment mostly reads about outdoor concerts such as the one at the state fair. There is also one line toward the end that reads “or places where persons are employed”. That is the line that the DHS is using to place itself in any business and have oversight of live music. I was interviewed for that article you referenced. We do not even have a stage or lights. We are a 48 person hamburger joint which happens to be owned by musicians who play music there too.

The hearing I have is at The Indiana State House on Aug. 2nd at 11am. This is real. Here is the law that The DHS is using to justify it.

http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/2010/title22/ar14/ch3.html

Newshound. You.

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[Anti Federalist]

Newshound. You.

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Woof.

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[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

In the comments, some clarity:...


Thanks. When something is linked from RPF, I think I've become conditioned to not read comments since they're usually way less than informative. I see this is quite an exception.

[Matt Collins]

Let's not believe everything we read on the Internet, shall we?

Besides, there is no documentation included.

[JK/SEA]

Let's not believe everything we read on the Internet, shall we?

Besides, there is no documentation included.

and yet, what i just read from you is..................on the internet.

can i trust you?


lol