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cajuncocoa
07-19-2013, 01:10 PM
Michael Gerson is terrified of Rand Paul (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/07/19/rand_paul_conviction_politician_119285.html). “This disdain for Lincoln is not a quirk or a coincidence. Paulism involves more than the repeal of Obamacare. It is a form of libertarianism that categorically objects to 150 years of expanding federal power. During this period, the main domestic justification for federal action has been opposition to slavery and segregation. Lincoln, in the Paulite view, exercised tyrannical powers to pursue an unnecessary war. Similarly, Paulites have been critical of the 1964 Civil Rights Act for violating both states’ rights and individual property rights — an argument Rand Paul himself echoed during several interviews as a Senate candidate. This does not make Paulites racists. But it does make them opponents of the legal methods that ended state-sanctioned racism… What does this mean for the GOP? It is a reminder that, however reassuring his manner, it is impossible for Rand Paul to join the Republican mainstream. The triumph of his ideas and movement would fundamentally shift the mainstream and demolish a century and a half of Republican political history. The GOP could no longer be the party of Reagan’s internationalism or of Lincoln’s belief in a strong union dedicated to civil rights.”

I am unfamiliar with the moment when Gerson, unstoppable promoter of paternalistic big government that he is, was bequeathed the ability to define the Republican mainstream. But Gerson’s depiction of the libertarian view of the Confederacy is simply fraudulent. I hear far more defenses of the South’s approach from Pat Buchanan sympathizers than from libertarians. Paleoconservatives may find much worthy of defense in the Confederate state, but consider: The Confederate Constitution amended the US Constitution to better facilitate technocratic rule. The Confederate ruling ideology, derived from John C. Calhoun's concurrent majorities, remains current in leftist thought today (see Lani Guinier). The Confederacy was the first to introduce mass conscription. The Confederacy staged a series of repressions and massacres against local autonomy (east Tennessee, central Texas, Alabama, Mississippi, western North Carolina, etc.). The Confederacy imposed an internal-passport regime for civilian travel later echoed by European autocracies. The Confederate state took over most of its own economy by war's end. And the Wilsonian “progressives” contained a surprising number of Confederate sympathizers who saw it as a noble experiment and set about applying its principles in the form of the segregating the federal government, fomenting the Klan, and more.

Agrarian non-interventionists have their sympathies for the Confederacy (see Copperhead, which glorifies the Sixties peaceniks – the 1860s), but that’s hardly a viewpoint unique to libertarianism. And for those who actually study history, the idea that the Confederacy was a liberty-oriented alternative to Lincoln and the Union is absurd – in many ways, its worst aspects were the forerunner of the modern technocratic top-down state.

Beyond getting the definitions wrong – and purposefully so, in a Sharptonesque manner – Gerson’s attempt to define Rand Paul as someone who cannot shape the future Republican coalition is just the latest sign of how afraid the party’s elite are of the rising coalition (http://spectator.org/archives/2013/07/18/saving-the-hawks) of libertarian youngsters and the populist middle class. “Since 2010, almost all the intellectual energy in the Senate has come from Tea Party lawmakers like Rand Paul and Mike Lee, who tend to be relatively dovish, skeptical of foreign aid, concerned about civil liberties, and contemptuous of neoconservatives. Making the case for an activist foreign policy has fallen largely to Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham, both of whom increasingly resemble the aging characters in Kingsley Amis’s The Old Devils, shambling around the Senate chamber and waxing nostalgic about the good old days when they could bomb other countries in peace. Beyond Rep. Tom Cotton, the neoconservative darling who still staunchly defends the Iraq intervention, there’s little fresh blood among Republican hawks in Congress these days. So perhaps it makes sense for Liz Cheney, the daughter of one of the architects of Bush-era foreign policy, to provide a Senate counterbalance to Paul.”

Concerned neoconservatives have nothing to fear on this count. If Paul is correct about the trajectory of the coalition, his views will achieve more prominence. But there will be a debate first, and the people will decide who they agree with. It could be a messy debate, public and ugly on the stage in Iowa, but that debate will happen. If Gerson and his allies have confidence in the strength of their ideas, they should be prepared to make the case for them… not attempt to escape the debate by writing Senators – particularly those with a young, passionate following – out of the party.

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anaconda
07-19-2013, 05:31 PM
And Jennifer Rubin continues to write anti-Rand articles. More yesterday and today:

Today:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/07/19/morning-bits-159/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/07/19/return-of-the-hawks/

Yesterday:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/07/18/like-father-like-son-rand-and-rons-dark-vision/

It's terribly transparent of her to be writing something negative about him every day. It just shows that she's coming unglued. Rand must be making a huge impact. She seems obsessed.

Brett85
07-19-2013, 05:34 PM
Yeah, Jennifer Rubin writing anti Rand articles every day is definitely a good sign.

Brett85
07-19-2013, 05:43 PM
And Jennifer Rubin continues to write anti-Rand articles. More yesterday and today:

Today:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/07/19/morning-bits-159/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/07/19/return-of-the-hawks/

That's an absolutely ridiculous article. So being "pro military" means that we should get the members of our military killed in as many useless and unnecessary wars as possible?

torchbearer
07-19-2013, 05:43 PM
:toady:

supermario21
07-19-2013, 05:43 PM
The Zimmerman verdict honestly came out at the perfect time. More people are paying attention to that than this useless bluster from Jen and all the neocons and their publications.

Occam's Banana
07-19-2013, 06:35 PM
This disdain for Lincoln is not a quirk or a coincidence. Paulism involves more than the repeal of Obamacare. It is a form of libertarianism that categorically objects to 150 years of expanding federal power. During this period, the main domestic justification for federal action has been opposition to slavery and segregation. Lincoln, in the Paulite view, exercised tyrannical powers to pursue an unnecessary war. Similarly, Paulites have been critical of the 1964 Civil Rights Act for violating both states’ rights and individual property rights — an argument Rand Paul himself echoed during several interviews as a Senate candidate. This does not make Paulites racists. But it does make them opponents of the legal methods that ended state-sanctioned racism… What does this mean for the GOP? It is a reminder that, however reassuring his manner, it is impossible for Rand Paul to join the Republican mainstream. The triumph of his ideas and movement would fundamentally shift the mainstream and demolish a century and a half of Republican political history. The GOP could no longer be the party of Reagan’s internationalism or of Lincoln’s belief in a strong union dedicated to civil rights.

With the exception of the bolded sentence, every single thing Gerson says here is absolutely correct. The bolded bit is pure bullshit, however. For one thing, it is difficult to understand how "opposition to slavery" could have served as a "justification for federal action" over the last 150 years, given that slavery was ended 150 years ago. For another thing, "opposition to segregation" as any kind of significant "justification for federal action" did not occur until Brown v. Board of Education & the Civil Rights Act - about 100 years after slavery had ended. So what is Gerson's precious "justification for federal action" supposed to be for the century in between? (And has the man never heard of things like Plessy v. Ferguson?) Gerson's invocation of slavery & segregation is nothing more than an attempt to smear Paul supporters with the tired old "racist / pro-slavery / pro-segregation / neo-Confederate" brush - despite his "This does not make Paulites racists" disclaimer. Anyway ...

Gerson's fundamental error is his ridiculous bellief that the "Republican mainstream" is some sort of static monolith that can and will never change. This error is born of Gerson's fervent wish that it was so. But reality does not conform itself to Gerson's foot-stomping wishes. The "Republican mainstream" obviously *is* changing (and will continue doing so) - and Gerson and his ilk are abjectly terrified by the fact. Good! They should be ...


But Gerson’s depiction of the libertarian view of the Confederacy is simply fraudulent. I hear far more defenses of the South’s approach from Pat Buchanan sympathizers than from libertarians. Paleoconservatives may find much worthy of defense in the Confederate state, but consider: The Confederate Constitution amended the US Constitution to better facilitate technocratic rule. The Confederate ruling ideology, derived from John C. Calhoun's concurrent majorities, remains current in leftist thought today (see Lani Guinier). The Confederacy was the first to introduce mass conscription. The Confederacy staged a series of repressions and massacres against local autonomy (east Tennessee, central Texas, Alabama, Mississippi, western North Carolina, etc.). The Confederacy imposed an internal-passport regime for civilian travel later echoed by European autocracies. The Confederate state took over most of its own economy by war's end. And the Wilsonian “progressives” contained a surprising number of Confederate sympathizers who saw it as a noble experiment and set about applying its principles in the form of the segregating the federal government, fomenting the Klan, and more.

Agrarian non-interventionists have their sympathies for the Confederacy (see Copperhead, which glorifies the Sixties peaceniks – the 1860s), but that’s hardly a viewpoint unique to libertarianism. And for those who actually study history, the idea that the Confederacy was a liberty-oriented alternative to Lincoln and the Union is absurd – in many ways, its worst aspects were the forerunner of the modern technocratic top-down state.

Hear! Hear! All of the above cannot be emphasized too much. I would add only this: "pro-secession" does NOT equal "pro-Confederacy." The facade of that vicious bromide is finally beginning to crumble. Gerson and others who ridiculously try to paint Ron/Rand supporters with it are just helping the process along ...

anaconda
07-19-2013, 10:27 PM
That's an absolutely ridiculous article. So being "pro military" means that we should get the members of our military killed in as many useless and unnecessary wars as possible?

We are the shining beacon atop the hill. We use our influence for good. We prevent atrocities and help stability in otherwise dangerous regions. We are committed to the safety of Israel. Peace through strength. Our men and women in uniform are courageous, heroic, and honorable. There are terrorists that want us dead and hate us for our way of life. We have vital interests abroad. Foreign relations are very complex.

LibertyEagle
07-19-2013, 11:24 PM
We are the shining beacon atop the hill. We use our influence for good. We prevent atrocities and help stability in otherwise dangerous regions. We are committed to the safety of Israel. Peace through strength. Our men and women in uniform are courageous, heroic, and honorable. There are terrorists that want us dead and hate us for our way of life. We have vital interests abroad. Foreign relations are very complex.

Peace through strength is the opposite of being a big bully and overthrowing governments around the world who have not attacked you, nor pose any imminent threat. Peace through strength is maintaining a strong national defense. So strong that no one dares attack you; thus, keeping you out of war.

Origanalist
07-20-2013, 06:33 AM
We are the shining beacon atop the hill. We use our influence for good. We prevent atrocities and help stability in otherwise dangerous regions. We are committed to the safety of Israel. Peace through strength. Our men and women in uniform are courageous, heroic, and honorable. There are terrorists that want us dead and hate us for our way of life. We have vital interests abroad. Foreign relations are very complex.

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Brett85
07-20-2013, 06:49 AM
Anaconda was obviously being sarcastic, just playing devil's advocate.

FSP-Rebel
07-20-2013, 11:49 AM
We are the righteous and are helping lead the charge to liberate our families, others and posterity from bondage. The gatekeepers are clearly in freak out mode and are not use to not being able to make their version of reality stick. Excelsior! Double Down!

Occam's Banana
07-20-2013, 12:49 PM
We are the righteous and are helping lead the charge to liberate our families, others and posterity from bondage. The gatekeepers are clearly in freak out mode and are not use to not being able to make their version of reality stick. Excelsior! Double Down!


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alucard13mm
07-20-2013, 12:50 PM
There is definitely hell of a lot more hit pieces are coming out, targeting both Rand and Cruz

anaconda
07-20-2013, 04:07 PM
There is definitely hell of a lot more hit pieces are coming out, targeting both Rand and Cruz

I'm surprised the war on Rand has started this soon. The early poll numbers obviously have the puppet masters very worried. I knew the attacks would eventually be horrendous, but damage control is starting early. Won't be long until Hannity et al starts dumping on him. What surprises me is how much favorable press coverage Rand has received this year. I thought they would apply a general blackout to him, but it was essentially the opposite. I don't think it is beyond the realm of possibilities that it was intentional to raise Rand's profile so that the attacks will reach a larger audience.

But Rand might be able to turn this into a huge propaganda victory for himself. I think there is a golden opportunity in this. Should be an interesting couple of months ahead.

fr33
07-20-2013, 04:13 PM
Progs and neocons attacking Rand at the same time might help rally the herd of cats a little.