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Peace Piper
07-17-2013, 06:38 PM
as of this writing, when you type in this url:
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into the Bing web translator:
http://www.bing.com/translator

You get this:

NSA scandal: Ex-President Carter f**king US snooping
By Gregor Peter Schmitz, Atlanta

Obama's Government tried to incite European anger about Scouting programs. Not so ex-President Jimmy Carter: the Democrat sharply attacked the U.S. intelligence community. The discovery by whistleblower Snowden was "useful".

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Former US President Jimmy Carter has in the wake of the NSA spying scandal the American political system severely criticized. "America has currently no functioning democracy," Carter said Tuesday at a meeting of the "Atlantik-Brücke" in Atlanta.

Previously Democrat had been very critical about the practices of the US intelligence services. "I think the invasion of privacy has gone too far," said Carter to CNN. "And I think that the secrecy that has been excessive." Overlooking the NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden , Carter said, whose revelations are in the long term "probably useful," because they inform the public.

Carter has repeatedly warned that the United States too much limiting of civil rights lost its moral authority. Last year he wrote a post in the "New York Times", new U.S. laws allowed the "unprecedented violation of our privacy by the Government".

Carter was the 39th President of the United States, he ruled from 1977 to 1981. During his tenure, he tried to align the US foreign policy more human rights - after retiring from active politics he received the Nobel Peace Prize for his humanitarian work in 2002.

He was in Atlanta also overall pessimistic about the global situation. There is currently no reason for optimism for him, said Carter and drew attention to the situation in Egypt, which had fallen back into a military dictatorship. He lamented the growing political division in the United States, the excessive influence of money in U.S. election campaigns, and the bewildering American electoral rules. The ex-President, whose "Carter Center" operates, among other worldwide election observation were skeptical, whether the United States met the standards that sets the Center with validation of elections.

As a ray of hope, Carter, however, called the triumph of modern technology that had created a democratic progress in the countries of the Arab spring. Exactly these developments to be endangered by the NSA spying scandal but, as major US Internet platforms such as Google or Facebook this worldwide lose credibility.

paulbot24
07-17-2013, 06:58 PM
Didn't he realize this when he asked the CIA to see their UFO/alien encounter files and they told him no....while he was president?

FrankRep
07-17-2013, 07:02 PM
The United States never was a Democracy.

paulbot24
07-17-2013, 07:09 PM
The United States never was a Democracy.

Well, we have no functioning representation as a Republic either so I guess we're $%&*@# either way.

ZakB
07-17-2013, 07:17 PM
Carter was the 39th President of the United States, he ruled from 1977 to 1981. During his tenure, he tried to align the US foreign policy more human rights - after retiring from active politics he received the Nobel Peace Prize for his humanitarian work in 2002.

Say what :eek: and here I thought presidents served...

Anti Federalist
07-17-2013, 07:21 PM
Say what :eek: and here I thought presidents served...

Buried in translation, the truth was.

HOLLYWOOD
07-18-2013, 08:47 AM
The German Journalist on Twitter... https://twitter.com/GPSchmitz

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@GPSchmitz (https://twitter.com/GPSchmitz) were you present at Carter's remarks? Can you confirm he spoke as reported in the Spiegel piece?
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@Casual_Obs (https://twitter.com/Casual_Obs) His remarks on NSA are from a CNN interview. Yes, I was present at his other remarks. Best, Gregor

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ZENemy
07-18-2013, 08:58 AM
then we have no functioning reason to pay them

HOLLYWOOD
07-18-2013, 09:03 AM
Other country's citizens get it... US Embassy in Berlin, Germany

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/united-stasi-of-america-artist-wanted-by-berlin-police-a-910818.html
'United Stasi of America': Light Artist Wanted by Berlin Police By Charles Hawley (http://www.spiegel.de/extra/0,1518,632144,00.html)
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Berlin police believe that this message, projected onto the wall of the US Embassy in Berlin on Sunday night, could be a violation of laws against insulting representatives of foreign states.





Berlin police are investigating a light artist for projecting the phrase "United Stasi of America" onto the the US Embassy in Berlin. The phrase refers to the former East German secret police and was meant as a protest against American spying. But can the artist really be prosecuted?

DamianTV
07-18-2013, 12:25 PM
Wow, even Ex Presidents recognize this.

cajuncocoa
07-18-2013, 12:28 PM
The United States never was a Democracy.

^^This.


Well, we have no functioning representation as a Republic either so I guess we're $%&*@# either way.

But, yeah, ^^THIS too.

surf
07-18-2013, 12:43 PM
good for Jimmy. i'd toast him with my vintage can of Billy Beer (if it wasn't bad and vintage).

arguably the best ex-president in a long time.

Occam's Banana
07-18-2013, 04:19 PM
arguably the best ex-president in a long time.

I'd definitely go along with "least-bad living ex-president" ... :)

(But considering that his only competition in that regard is two Bushes and a Clinton, that might not be saying much.)

Anti Federalist
07-18-2013, 04:44 PM
America has currently no functioning democracy

Bullshit.

Just like the government "schools", democracy is functioning just fine here in AmeriKa.

DamianTV
07-18-2013, 05:34 PM
Bullshit.

Just like the government "schools", democracy is functioning just fine here in AmeriKa.

... where the demands of a whiny majority are able to take away the Rights of the minority.

Oh, and if its about Privacy, then your rights are subject to the whims of 13 year olds who do nothing but post stupid shit on facebook, there by believing that you should also have no right to privacy because they like posting shit on facebook. These fucking 13 year olds that comprise the majority and establish the "Norm" of what a Reasonable Expectation of Privacy is never knew anyone or have ever experienced what a real Concentration Camp is about.

This is when Democracy is Allowed. Not when it serves the People, but when it serves their Corporate Masters. Now if only Burger King can find a way to make people think that Fat is Sexy as a Societal Norm again...