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alucard13mm
07-14-2013, 04:05 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/protesters-zimmerman-acquittal-march-calif-091855459.html

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Protesters angered by the acquittal of George Zimmerman demonstrated in four California cities, breaking windows and starting small fires in Oakland, police said.


The gatherings Saturday night ranged from a few dozen to a couple hundred people turning out to protest the verdict in the Florida courtroom over the death of Trayvon Martin, and police said some of the demonstrations continued into the early hours Sunday.


The Oakland police dispatch office said about 100 people protested, with some in the crowd breaking windows on businesses and starting small fires in the streets. As the protest wound down with the crowd dispersing, the office said that as of 2 a.m. PDT it had no word of any arrests.

kathy88
07-14-2013, 07:08 AM
Always California.

CPUd
07-14-2013, 07:21 AM
Always Oakland.

klamath
07-14-2013, 08:52 AM
I think the vast majority of the African americans watched the trial and realized it was NOT a slam dunk case of racism and miscarriage of justice despite Obama's attempt to make it that way.

torchbearer
07-14-2013, 09:25 AM
Some people are just looking for a reason to steal and destroy.

Nobexliberty
07-14-2013, 09:31 AM
Some people are just looking for a reason to steal and destroy. Exactly, they are only parasites who love to destroy and steal innocent peoples property and nothing else.

HigherVision
07-14-2013, 09:40 AM
I think the vast majority of the African americans watched the trial and realized it was NOT a slam dunk case of racism and miscarriage of justice despite Obama's attempt to make it that way.

I think you might need to take the rose colored glasses off.

youngbuck
07-14-2013, 11:38 AM
Protesters...breaking windows and starting small fires in Oakland.

Say it ain't so! That's like a shooting in Chicago!

Brian4Liberty
07-14-2013, 11:39 AM
Always Oakland.

You don't expect the white kids from Berkeley to set fires in their home town do you?

enhanced_deficit
07-14-2013, 11:41 AM
all smoke, no fire.

Brian4Liberty
07-14-2013, 06:03 PM
Protests going on right now in Oakland.

juleswin
07-14-2013, 06:43 PM
Protests going on right now in Oakland.

How big is it? is it peaceful or violent? Do you have any pictures?

Fredom101
07-14-2013, 07:30 PM
Always Oakland.

Not true. Oakland has a tradition of NOT rioting, unlike LA, Detroit, etc.

Brian4Liberty
07-14-2013, 11:47 PM
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_23659319/oakland-more-demonstrations-planned-property-owners-clean-up


But about 10 p.m., a smaller group of protesters began vandalizing businesses along Broadway.


One report said "anarchists" were vandalizing businesses.

Anti Federalist
07-14-2013, 11:57 PM
Meh...

There will be no riots, no blood in the streets, no burning city blocks.

Why?

Because "we" don't care anymore, about anything. We have been fully institutionalized. We are docile and compliant.

This whole issue is just a race baiting sham, and everybody knows it.

Now, there are at least 100 things I can think of that should have millions of Americans in the streets raising seven kinds of holy hell.

But they won't, any more than they will over this fake issue.

5000 calories of dinner, the daily dose of Prozac and "what's on TV" has everybody nice and placid.

Noob
07-14-2013, 11:58 PM
live cam of one

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pmbeers/pop-out

FrankRep
07-15-2013, 12:06 AM
Breaking News: 2:04 am EDT

Los Angeles Trayvon Martin Protests Turn Violent After George Zimmerman Verdict
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/14/trayvon-martin-los-angeles-protests_n_3596490.html

Protesters Take to Streets in Los Angeles
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Protesters-Shut-Down-10-Freeway-215462921.html

kcchiefs6465
07-15-2013, 12:08 AM
live cam of one

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pmbeers/pop-out
Thanks. Keep links coming if you get them.

James Madison
07-15-2013, 12:16 AM
Trayvon Martin was 1 person...on a planet of 7,000,000,000 people. He would have been a 75 year blip on a planet 4,500,000,000 years old. Just like you; just like me; just like every human being to ever walk the earth. And now we have protestors demonstrating all across the country who never even knew the guy!

moral of the story: live your life as you choose and don't take yourself or anyone around you too seriously. we all finish the race sooner or later.

fr33
07-15-2013, 12:29 AM
Most if not all of these protestors didn't lift a finger over the many killings in their own cities. They don't care unless the media tells them to. Useful idiots.

oyarde
07-15-2013, 12:35 AM
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_23659319/oakland-more-demonstrations-planned-property-owners-clean-up



One report said "anarchists" were vandalizing businesses.

I doubt there are any anarchists .

CPUd
07-15-2013, 12:40 AM
Most if not all of these protestors didn't lift a finger over the many killings in their own cities. They don't care unless the media tells them to. Useful idiots.

This is what is seriously fucked up about the whole thing. The press is trolling people the same as politicians do about other hot button issues. It draws people into their coverage, then they have headlines like "why are people so passionate about this case?" Of course they know, because they created it.

On CNN site right now: "After the verdict: Rage"

In a couple days, it will be, "why the violence?"

Warrior_of_Freedom
07-15-2013, 06:52 AM
they were just thirsty for some grape drank

Carlybee
07-15-2013, 09:38 AM
Had some socialists on my FB feed applauding it and calling for people to go "scorched earth".

Brian4Liberty
07-15-2013, 10:28 AM
I doubt there are any anarchists .


Protesters amass at 17th Street and Telegraph Avenue as they set fires and vandalized stores in downtown Oakland. (http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Tense-protest-in-Oakland-4664343.php#photo-4914086)

http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/22/57/56/4914086/6/628x471.jpg

Czolgosz
07-15-2013, 10:36 AM
Relief valve for morons.

Brian4Liberty
07-15-2013, 10:37 AM
Just as a point of clarification, the vast majority of protesters in Oakland and San Francisco are white leftists.

Brian4Liberty
07-15-2013, 10:40 AM
Had some socialists on my FB feed applauding it and calling for people to go "scorched earth".

Yep.

They are trying as hard as they can on the left to incite something.

Carlybee
07-15-2013, 10:44 AM
You almost have to feel sorry for them if the S ever does HTF. I sure wont be worrying about breaking windows.

Brian4Liberty
07-15-2013, 10:50 AM
Here's video of the protests in Oakland and San Francisco. You decide who is protesting here.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/video/9091387-team-coverage-crowds-in-sf-oakland-protest-zimmerman-acquittal/

jdmyprez_deo_vindice
07-15-2013, 11:02 AM
Well I am going to go ahead and assume that no hardcore, widespread rioting or looting is going to occur and I just can't help but feel bad for Ben Bernanke here as I think he is the real victim in all this. You know somewhere tonight he will be crying and having to be comforted by his servants because that gosh darn media did not do a good enough job of fueling racially motivated rioting and that was the cornerstone of the 2013 economic stimulus plan.

Alex Libman
07-15-2013, 11:07 AM
Syndication of my writings on the Zimmerman case from Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/libman.org):

(See also comments on original post (https://www.facebook.com/libman.org/posts/145606702306451) and a share (https://www.facebook.com/phummeljr/posts/10151725113799036).)


The inevitable Zimmerman rant...

If someone comes into Tent City (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?417696-The-Libertarian-Solution-To-End-Homelessness) at night and (in my fallible possibly-biased subjective personal judgement) acts like s\he *might* be "up to no good", following this person and observing may be "the right thing to do". I've done that on several occasions (ex. drunk Hasidic men seeking cheap sex - not that it should be illegal or anything). On a common walkway, one does have the Right to follow people and observe. Privacy is a luxury, best achieved on one's own Private Property. Sorry, there's just no such thing as a "right to be in a public place and not have any witnesses".

If s\he gets upset and initiates physical aggression against me, with me knocked to the ground and in danger of having my brains bashed in, I'd most likely try to do what Zimmerman did and shoot. (Don't ask me where I hide my gun.)

So I'm all for the Right to self-defense, but the Zimmerman case isn't "the hill I wanna die on". Lots of stupidity all-around...

WE NEED DOME G.D. PROTOCOLS FOR THIS!

(1) People should be willing to present ID and comply with legitimate security authorities when visiting a neighborhood, as per the stated policies of this neighborhood. And "legitimate security authorities" should be identifiable and accountable as well.

(2) Warn somebody that you're armed, and keep your adrenaline in check. Don't get into a fistfight and then pull it out when you lose! (I'm not saying that's what happened with Zimmerman, as the prosecution would claim, just presenting an example to avoid.) "Hi, I'm the friendly armed security guard in this neighborhood, and I just need to see some ID / ask who you're visiting."

(3) Cameras, cameras, cameras. Every gun should have a camera built-in - not as a gov't regulation, but as a standard of evidence when proving that you've acted in self-defense.

(4) Less-lethal weapons. In a free market (which also means without any prohibition on guns), insurance liability costs would create very strong incentives for this. (The reason why we don't have this yet is because the politicians are trying to create a world where only police-criminals (and, inevitably, small-time unaffiliated criminals) have guns, and thus no real concern for liability costs.) This is the 21st century! Modern medicine and high-tech engineering can come up with better devices for incapacitating someone than the medieval idea of propelling a metallic projectile through their body!

Every human death is a tragedy, and every killing of a human being should be scorned for our failure to have the wisdom to avoid it. But not every killing of a human being is a Murder that must be punished by law. When a person initiates aggression against others, the aggressor's own Rights are diminished and displaced by the conflicting Rights of the victims.

You do have the Right to kill in self-defense. If you're smart, you'll do everything possible to avoid it.


(Original post (https://www.facebook.com/libman.org/posts/145842888949499).)


The Zimmerman story is far from over. With all the facts of the case against them, the socialist rabble-rousers are resorting to race-baiting and other irrational tactics to arouse the empty minds...

They seek to disempower individuals from being able to protect themselves and their Private Property (which includes the ability to contractually establish neighborhoods that have security policies, like all visitors having to identify themselves and/or state their business). They seek to disempower local Neighborhood Watch organizations and strengthen the monopoly of government "police".

Libertarians should make a clear stand for George Zimmerman being Not Guilty of Murder. Yes, he's not perfect, and in the ideal world the killing could have been avoided. (I've written about Zimmerman's mistakes earlier on my Facebook timeline.) But he did act in self-defense! The prosecution didn't come within a lightyear of proving any degree of Murder or Manslaughter "beyond reasonable doubt".

Tent City (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?417696-The-Libertarian-Solution-To-End-Homelessness) residents and supporters should also support this Murder trial verdict of Not Guilty. What if, after a string of robberies by outsiders, Minister Steve one day confronts a suspicious stranger wandering through Tent City looking at various tents? What if, instead of amicably explaining his business, the stranger knocks Minister Steve to the ground and starts punching him? The police can't be everywhere at once, especially if the next Tent City is built in a more remote location.

Rich or poor, black or white - the Right to Self-Defense is absolutely crucial to make a free society possible!

FrankRep
07-15-2013, 11:10 AM
NBC'S SHARPTON PLANS PROTESTS IN 100 CITIES
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/07/15/NBCs-Al-Sharpton-Plans-Protest-in-100-Cities

This might create some issues

juleswin
07-15-2013, 11:11 AM
Well I am going to go ahead and assume that no hardcore, widespread rioting or looting is going to occur and I just can't help but feel bad for Ben Bernanke here as I think he is the real victim in all this. You know somewhere tonight he will be crying and having to be comforted by his servants because that gosh darn media did not do a good enough job of fueling racially motivated rioting and that was the cornerstone of the 2013 economic stimulus plan.

Just imagine all the economic growth that would have risen from all that destruction. This would have been their chance to disprove the broken window fallacy once and for all :(

jdmyprez_deo_vindice
07-15-2013, 11:13 AM
Just imagine all the economic growth that would have risen from all that destruction. This would have been their chance to disprove the broken window fallacy once and for all :(

I know. I am so torn up that I am thinking of sending Helicopter Ben a sympathy card.

torchbearer
07-15-2013, 11:34 AM
they were just thirsty for some grape drank

purple drank

Brian4Liberty
07-15-2013, 11:45 AM
With all the facts of the case against them, the socialist rabble-rousers are resorting to race-baiting and other irrational tactics to arouse the empty minds...

Got that right.

The Free Hornet
07-15-2013, 11:51 AM
RACEWAR!

Brian4Liberty
07-15-2013, 11:52 AM
Well I am going to go ahead and assume that no hardcore, widespread rioting or looting is going to occur and I just can't help but feel bad for Ben Bernanke here as I think he is the real victim in all this. You know somewhere tonight he will be crying and having to be comforted by his servants because that gosh darn media did not do a good enough job of fueling racially motivated rioting and that was the cornerstone of the 2013 economic stimulus plan.

Lol.

They probably aren't happy at the IRS or NSA either. Time to gin up another distraction...

Alex Libman
07-15-2013, 12:10 PM
Zimmerman will still likely face:

(1) Politically-motivated Federal scrutiny.

(2) A civil trial.

(3) Life in hiding.

Anyone still willing to volunteer for Neighborhood Watch after this is doubly a hero!

Of course Zimmerman did not act perfectly. Neighborhood Watch organizations need to have higher standards of training. Be polite but assertive. Never get carried away with macho stuff, keep your distance and warn that you're armed. Have signs posted everywhere: "this is a private neighborhood, be prepared to ID yourself and state your business".

And have cameras. Repeat: cameras. Lots and lots of cameras. Then more cameras. "The camera is the new gun." The only thing Zimmerman is guilty of is shooting without a camera.

PS: cameras.

CAMERAS!!!!

Seriously, are there cameras in front of your house right now? If someone tresspasses in your yard, and you confront them, and they knock you down and start trying to split your skull with your driveway, and you shoot them - THIS NEEDS TO BE ON CAMERA OR YOU'RE SCREWED!

Nobexliberty
07-15-2013, 12:13 PM
RACEWAR!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g37HT4-EtzE

Alex Libman
07-15-2013, 12:46 PM
"The acquittal of George Zimmerman could encourage racist whites to to attack black teenagers presuming they are criminals, and then kill them." --Richard M Stalinman (http://stallman.org) (the socialist activist who never wrote any good software, but hijacked the open source movement and burdened it with restrictive anti-free-market licenses (http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=19771).)

:eek:

Did the acquittal of OJ Simpson (even though the prosecution's case there was 100,000 times more valid) encourage racist "blacks" to attack white women and then kill them?

The only color that matters in this case is red - it was pouring out of Zimmerman's head as he was screaming for help.

The Free Hornet
07-15-2013, 01:22 PM
--Richard M Stalinman (http://stallman.org) (the socialist activist who never wrote any good software, but hijacked the open source movement and burdened it with restrictive anti-free-market licenses (http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=19771).)

Pull your head out of your ass.

a) The license is voluntary and not incompatible free-market principles (more so, you don't even need to agree to the damn license under most all usage scenarios). Don't like it? Modify Windows 8 code, re-release (at a price which you can legally do with GPL software), and see how that works out for you!

b) The license preserves freedoms automatically removed from all writings in "Article I, Section 8, Clause 8".

c) Persuant to a free market, you have closed source options AND BSD-style licensing (more permissive, but less 'tit-for-tat' to maintain free licensing going forward)

Stallman is clearly not a libertarian, but don't spread fucking bullshit.

I'd love to get rid of the IP Clause and then private agreements will have ample opportunity and incentive to spread. Almost any GPL is far, far, far better than anything Microsoft or Disney would come up with. It is a clever hack, unlike your rant here.

As to him being a socialist, if you believe in "Article I, Section 8, Clause 8", I can't see how you're any better. Maybe you do, maybe you don't. It is hard to read your blog and your posts with batshit fucking insanity like:


And it's not just RMS's politics, it's the prevailing [weasel word warning] communist culture within the GNU/Linux communities, of which I've been a part for many years.

http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=19771

Alex Libman
07-15-2013, 01:26 PM
Read the thread I've linked to and reply there instead of taking this thread off-topic. (http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=19771)

AuH20
07-15-2013, 01:28 PM
"The acquittal of George Zimmerman could encourage racist whites to to attack black teenagers presuming they are criminals, and then kill them." --Richard M Stalinman (http://stallman.org) (the socialist activist who never wrote any good software, but hijacked the open source movement and burdened it with restrictive anti-free-market licenses (http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=19771).)

:toady:

Did the acquittal of OJ Simpson (even though the prosecution's case there was 100,000 times more valid) encourage racist "blacks" to attack white women and then kill them?

The only color that matters in this case is red - it was pouring out of Zimmerman's head as he was screaming for help.

I'm pretty certain the apex predator of young blacks is other blacks. Stalinman is completely deluded.

brandon
07-15-2013, 01:32 PM
Dude among many other things Stallman wrote gcc. Also are you familiar with the LGPL? It fixes most of your criticisms of GPL (which I agree with)

Alex Libman
07-15-2013, 01:36 PM
Why make this about melanin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_skin_color)? Why not height? Trayvon Martin was 4 inches taller than George Zimmerman. Will this verdict encourage heightist short people to shoot tall people?

Nobexliberty
07-15-2013, 01:37 PM
Why make this about melanin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_skin_color)? Why not height? Trayvon Martin was 4 inches taller than George Zimmerman. Will this verdict encourage heightist short people to shoot tall people?Race is not a social construct!

AuH20
07-15-2013, 01:38 PM
Is it just me or are certain elements at work setting the stage for the scapegoating of the white man???????? You can transparently see right through this entire charade for what it is. These libtards and alleyway revolutionaries are irate about the remnants of material wealth, self-respect and so-called privilege salvaged by the predominantly white middle class. They want our crumbs, while ignoring the largest and most egregious abuser on the planet, the U.S. federal government.

Nobexliberty
07-15-2013, 01:43 PM
Is it just me or are certain elements at work setting the stage for the scapegoating of the white man???????? You can transparently see right through this entire charade for what it is. These libtards and alleyway revolutionaries are irate about the remnants of material wealth, self-respect and so-called privilege salvaged by the predominantly white middle class. They want our crumbs, while ignoring the largest and most egregious abuser on the planet, the U.S. federal government. It is alot easier to blame Whitey then themselfs and/or the goverment.

The Free Hornet
07-15-2013, 01:44 PM
I'm pretty certain the apex predator of young blacks is other blacks. Stalinman is completely deluded.

OK - I get it now - Stalinman. I missed the intentional mispelling. For those who are curious, Stallman (AKA RMS) will likely contribute more to freedom and prosperity than everybody posting here today, combined.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman

Is he batshit insane at times? Yes.

Alex Libman
07-15-2013, 01:46 PM
Race is not a social construct!

It is definitely over-emphasised.

ZOMG, will this verdict encourage people whose last name ends with -man to shoot people whose last name ends in -tin?

I'm gonna join the Neighborhood Watch just so I could shoot me an Austin! :p

The Free Hornet
07-15-2013, 01:50 PM
Read the thread I've linked to and reply there instead of taking this thread off-topic. (http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=19771)

You dragged this off-topic with a BS rant. Since we're giving instructions: start the thread in individual rights (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?225-Individual-Rights-amp-Liberties) or technology (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?339-Science-amp-Technology) in this forum.

As for the other site (no offense, freepers), there is no way in fuck I'm reading 85 posts as you defame the subject matter. If you could have linked to a coherent post, you would have.

Coloring your opposition as socialists and communists is a good way to start an argument, not to finish one.

Alex Libman
07-15-2013, 02:19 PM
I've made an on-topic 102-word post pertaining to the racial rabble-rousing taking place after Zimmerman being found Not Guilty of Murder. It included 24 words (in parenthesis) explaining who the socialist rabble-rouser I was quoting was, including a link to an appropriate thread where this person's positions can be analysed in depth.

Now, where were we...

ZOMG, will this verdict encourage people studying to be a judge someday to shoot people who get caught spray-painting graffiti and are found to have several pieces of women's jewelry and a screwdriver in their backpack!?

Will this verdict encourage people who stand up for homeless people (coincidentally a black man) abused by police (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/24/George-Zimmerman-Black-Homeless-Man-Sanford-Police) to shoot people who call white people "creepy ass crackers (http://townhall.com/columnists/douggiles/2013/06/30/hey-rachel-im-pretty-certain-creepy-ass-cracker-is-a-racial-slur-n1630760)"?!

OK, I think I got it out of my system now...

The serious point, again, is that there's absolutely no reason to make this about race.

Brian4Liberty
07-15-2013, 02:59 PM
Why not height? Trayvon Martin was 4 inches taller than George Zimmerman. Will this verdict encourage heightist short people to shoot tall people?

Seems outrageous, but don't rule it out. If the establishment media thought they could gain some advantage, they could probably create controversy over height. They could feature both short and tall celebrities talking about how they have been discriminated against. They could highlight tall on short violence, short person rage, and add in guns rights for good measure ("why do angry short people need guns, and why are they always shooting tall people"). Representatives from the "Southern Shorty Defense Center" could do the talk shows. The "National Association of Tall Americans" could stage protests for the TV cameras.

We must stop discrimination! Why are drinking fountains segregated?! They obviously have one for tall people and one for short people!

And why the short doorways? Tall people must have equal access! A 6'11" person can not access public facilities easily when the door frames are too small.

Basketball? It's discriminatory! Tall people hate short people, and won't let short people play!

And those damn Hollywood actors! They don't let tall people star in their movies!

jmdrake
07-15-2013, 03:13 PM
Just as a point of clarification, the vast majority of protesters in Oakland and San Francisco are white leftists.

Thank you for pointing that out....though many will still miss this.

Brian4Liberty
07-15-2013, 03:13 PM
Some tweets from last night's protest.

http://twitchy.com/2013/07/15/violent-rock-throwing-oakland-mob-attacks-media-burns-flags-journos-live-tweet-pics/



Crowds in Oakland turned violent late tonight. We've received reports of media and police being attacked: http://abc7ne.ws/tde3k #Trayvon


I'm OK, but protestors had our photog on the ground. I tried to get them off him. An #SFgate photog came to the rescue-1 camera is destroyed

They also attacked a TV camera man. We're staying back behind #Oakland police lines now. #Trayvon @insidebayarea


#ProtestsUpdate: A @KTVU photographer was attacked by masked protesters in #Oakland today.

thoughtomator
07-15-2013, 03:17 PM
Oakland will riot over anything - it is an extremely unhappy town. This was an excuse and they never pass one up.

Brian4Liberty
07-16-2013, 10:38 AM
Night 3:


OAKLAND -- A crowd of several hundred people protesting the acquittal of George Zimmerman in Florida briefly shut down traffic on Interstate 880 during a lengthy march Monday evening, blocking numerous streets before a group of more than 100 people scuffled with police shortly after 11 p.m.
...
The late-night skirmishes began after police charged at several vandals who smashed windows at the Men's Warehouse at 15th Street and Broadway.

Police deployed flash-bang grenades; protesters threw fireworks at lines of officers wearing riot gear.

Protesters later marched up Broadway and Telegraph Avenue, where people stood in front of bars and restaurants to protect them from window-smashing vandals.

A waiter was hit with what appeared to be a hammer while protecting the windows at Flora, a restaurant at the corner of Telegraph and 19th Street.

"Protesters with black masks approached the window and tried to bang at it," said bartender Phillip Ricafort. "(The waiter) said, 'Don't do that!' and the guy turned around and smacked him in the face with a hammer" or another metal object.

"It was gruesome," said Ricafort. He said his co-worker was bleeding from the face.

http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_23666564/protesters-takeover-i-880-oakland

Brian4Liberty
07-16-2013, 10:40 AM
Organizers include the (Marxist) Party for Socialism and Liberation: hxxp://www.pslweb.org/

Black masks? Probably anarcho-communists. (Or anarcho-syndicalists)

BlackTerrel
07-16-2013, 07:19 PM
Pretty sure windows are broken in Oakland every night. Is that it?

I think some people are upset we didn't get the "race war" they were predicting.

The same people who thought we'd have a race war because of the movie "machete"... and after that because of Django...

It was a travesty of justice... but it's not the first one and it's not the last one.... we'll continue to move along like we always do.

BlackTerrel
07-16-2013, 07:21 PM
Seems outrageous, but don't rule it out. If the establishment media thought they could gain some advantage, they could probably create controversy over height. They could feature both short and tall celebrities talking about how they have been discriminated against. They could highlight tall on short violence, short person rage, and add in guns rights for good measure ("why do angry short people need guns, and why are they always shooting tall people"). Representatives from the "Southern Shorty Defense Center" could do the talk shows. The "National Association of Tall Americans" could stage protests for the TV cameras.

We must stop discrimination! Why are drinking fountains segregated?! They obviously have one for tall people and one for short people!

And why the short doorways? Tall people must have equal access! A 6'11" person can not access public facilities easily when the door frames are too small.

Basketball? It's discriminatory! Tall people hate short people, and won't let short people play!

And those damn Hollywood actors! They don't let tall people star in their movies!

Except that's not at all the same.

You're ignoring the very real segregation that has occurred historically in our country and still today.

There has never been "real" discrimination against people due to height.

jdmyprez_deo_vindice
07-16-2013, 07:23 PM
Except that's not at all the same.

You're ignoring the very real segregation that has occurred historically in our country and still today.

There has never been "real" discrimination against people due to height.

In my lifetime I can honestly say that I have never seen an example of forced segregation. Care to enlighten us how mandated segregation still exists?

FrankRep
07-16-2013, 07:27 PM
Pretty sure windows are broken in Oakland every night. Is that it?

I think some people are upset we didn't get the "race war" they were predicting.


Thank God the Riot police put a stop to the riots breaking out.



From Yesterday: (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?421364-Los-Angeles-Zimmerman-protesters-stop-traffic-Break-Windows-Raid-Wal-Mart)



Zimmerman protesters stop traffic, break windows, raid Wal-Mart in Los Angeles (http://www.dailyjournal.net/view/story/2dbbb363425b46548f1077e3d1aab880/CA--Neighborhood-Watch-LA-Protests/)


AP / Daily Journal
July 16, 2013 - 12:28 am


A group of protesters ran through Los Angeles streets, stopping traffic and at times engaging in vandalism and apparent violence as demonstrations over George Zimmerman's Florida acquittal in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin continued.

LAPD Lt. Andrew Neiman says there has been at least one arrest Monday and more are expected.

A group of several hundred peaceful protesters gathered at Leimert Park southwest of downtown to chant, pray and sing.

But a splinter group of about 100 left to walk down Crenshaw Boulevard, some jumping on and cars and breaking windows.

Several protesters ran into a Wal-Mart store, where they knocked down displays before store security chased them out and police began guarding the door.

TV news helicopters showed apparent fighting at times, but there were no injury reports.


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Tuesday, July 16

06:25 GMT: LA Mayor Eric Garcetti: "The Martin family didn't ask anybody to break car windows."

06:21 GMT: LAPD Chief Charles Beck: "This will not be allowed to continue". Beck spoke to the media after Zimmerman protest violence erupted.

06:19 GMT: LAPD confirms 13 people have been arrested.

06:17 GMT: 150 individuals broke away from other protesters and vandalized the city, the LAPD said. There were several instances of vandalism and a few assaults.

05:51 GMT: Police have begun arresting protesters in Oakland, as reports come in about demonstrators attacking a local CBS crew.

05:44 GMT: Reports of Oakland protesters smashing windows and throwing rocks at media.

05:38 GMT: Thirteen protesters have reportedly been taken into custody by the LAPD.

05:33 GMT: Large group has been taken into custody, local media reported.

05:30 GMT: Los Angeles police have begun arresting Zimmerman protesters after issuing a dispersal order and declaring the demonstration an unlawful assembly.

05:23 GMT: Reports of protesters gathered around a courthouse in Oakland, CA which is being guarded by police in riot gear.

05:20 GMT: Reports of LAPD gearing up and giving final warning to protesters before making arrests.

04:59 GMT: Los Angeles police have declared the Zimmerman protest to be an unlawful assembly. If demonstrators do not disperse, they may be arrested.

04:31 GMT: At least one fire has been started along Crenshaw Boulevard in Los Angeles, as Zimmerman protests turn violent. Reports of LAPD cruisers damaged, multiple trash cans burning.

BlackTerrel
07-16-2013, 08:03 PM
In my lifetime I can honestly say that I have never seen an example of forced segregation. Care to enlighten us how mandated segregation still exists?

Me neither. I meant to say discrimination.

cajuncocoa
07-16-2013, 08:08 PM
Except that's not at all the same.

You're ignoring the very real segregation that has occurred historically in our country and still today.

There has never been "real" discrimination against people due to height.

Where (besides places and groups that Blacks set aside for themselves) does segregation still exist today?

FrankRep
07-16-2013, 08:14 PM
Me neither. I meant to say discrimination.
Discrimination happens at all levels of society. If a nerd asks out a cheerleader, he will probably be discriminated against.

James Madison
07-16-2013, 08:20 PM
Except that's not at all the same.

You're ignoring the very real segregation that has occurred historically in our country and still today.

There has never been "real" discrimination against people due to height.

Many girls will not date short men. That's 'real' discrimination no worse than saying 'I won't date a black guy simply because he's black'. Have fun trying to get a gf who's above a 6.

Brian4Liberty
07-16-2013, 09:16 PM
There has never been "real" discrimination against people due to height.

You probably would be more accurate to say "institutionalized" discrimination based on height. (Except for amusement park rides). ;)

BlackTerrel
07-18-2013, 09:44 PM
That just makes a mockery of people who have legitimately been discriminated against (and I don't count myself in that category - I'm lucky to have grown up in a pretty tolerant place). I may have known some discrimination - everyone does to some extent - but no "real racism".

The Free Hornet
07-18-2013, 10:04 PM
It was a travesty of justice... but it's not the first one and it's not the last one.... we'll continue to move along like we always do.

You mean to say it was a "travesty of injustice". Your premise is that a black man would have been railroaded, not treated justly.

BlackTerrel
07-18-2013, 10:16 PM
You mean to say it was a "travesty of injustice". Your premise is that a black man would have been railroaded, not treated justly.

Most likely yes. If Zim is black cops beat the shit out of him and ask questions later. 100% of the time.

The Free Hornet
07-18-2013, 10:24 PM
Most likely yes. If Zim is black cops beat the shit out of him and ask questions later. 100% of the time.

By any chance do you have great-great-great-great grandparents who were counter abolitionists that advocated white slavery?

BlackTerrel
07-23-2013, 09:31 PM
By any chance do you have great-great-great-great grandparents who were counter abolitionists that advocated white slavery?

Maybe. Beyond my grandma I couldn't do a family tree any further back.

Why?