View Full Version : Glenn Greenwald: Is Obama Fulfilling the Neocon Dream

07-12-2013, 07:43 AM
Looking at the date of this article, GG was among those who recognized early on that plant was neocoons' tool:


07-12-2013, 08:26 PM
In related recent reports:

As Neocons Defend Obama, Allies Doubt Him on Drones as Never Before

Conor Friedersdorf (http://www.theatlantic.com/conor-friedersdorf/) Feb 7 2013, 6:00 AM ET

The John Brennan confirmation hearings are the biggest showdown yet on extrajudicial killing and executive branch secrecy.
For once, the Obama Administration's drone policy is much in the news. Kill-list overseer John Brennan (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/01/the-wildly-insufficient-kill-list-reforms-of-john-brennan/267020/) starts confirmation hearings today to determine whether he'll get to be the next CIA director. Everyone is abuzz about a confidential memo (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/02/obamas-memo-on-killing-americans-twists-imminent-threat-like-bush/272862/) that describes some of the scenarios in which President Obama believes that his underlings are empowered to extrajudicially kill Americans. And it looks like the Senate Intelligence Committee will finally going to see the Office of Legal Counsel opinion that sets forth the legal justification invoked to kill Anwar al-Awlaki (though the Obama Administration intends to keep hiding the legal analysis from the public, as well as Congressional committees that oversee the Pentagon and the Department of Justice).
How is everyone reacting to the unprecedented attention being paid to drone strikes?
Some neoconservatives have suddenly begun defending the president. John Bolton, former ambassador to the UN, says (http://reason.com/blog/2013/02/06/john-bolton-on-obama-drone-policy-entire) the drone program "appears to be consistent with the policies of the Bush administration," in which he served. Max Boot of Commentary insists (http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/02/06/obama-drone-memo-is-a-careful-responsible-document/) Obama's drone memo is a "careful, responsible document." I'd half expect John Yoo to start praising Obama if he weren't busy "turning away in disgust (http://ricochet.com/main-feed/After-the-McRib)" at the McRib's disappearance from his local McDonald's.
Dick Cheney (http://www.salon.com/2011/01/18/cheney_72/) has yet to comment.
Meanwhile, Obama is taking more criticism than usual from normally friendly quarters. The Huffington Post, a sprawling landscape of content, has published criticism of the president on many occasions, but I don't know that I've ever seen its home page go after him like this:
http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/politics/huffpo%201.pngIt was U.S. District Court Judge Colleen McMahon who first compared Team Obama's legal positions to Alice in Wonderland (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/01/the-paradox-that-prevents-courts-from-enforcing-the-constitution/266779/). I'm glad the phrase has taken told. Here's what the Huffington Post's front page looked like in the wee hours of Thursday morning, having been updated to reflect the fact that Senator Ron Wyden and friends finally get to see the legal opinions (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/01/a-senators-lonely-crusade-to-learn-the-cias-secrets/267180/):

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/politics/huffpo%203.pngIt took until President George W. Bush's second term for the press to become sufficiently adversarial in the realm of foreign policy, where journalists parroted misinformation and implausible arguments for some years and too frequently gave officials the benefit of the doubt. I hope the Huffington Post's tough treatment is remembered as one of the moments when the press stopped trusting Obama too much.


07-14-2013, 11:59 AM
"seem" lol

Obama and Neocons Seem Aligned in Pushing for Problematic Syrian Involvement Shift in policy expected despite rise of Jihadist influences in the conflict.
The Obama Administration could soon announce a change in its policy toward Syria, the Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-considers-direct-aid-to-syrian-rebels/2013/02/26/4af93d3c-8033-11e2-b99e-6baf4ebe42df_story.html?wpisrc=al_excl) reports. That change would likely include providing arms to some of President Basher Assad’s opposition.
We knew something like this might be coming. While President Barack Obama had said he opposed plans (http://www.dw.de/obama-blocks-help-for-syrian-rebels/a-16609732)--backed by then-CIA director David Petraeus, then-secretary of defense Leon Panetta, and then-secretary of state Hilary Clinton--to directly arm Syrian rebels, The New York Times (http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/02/19/Obama-said-open-to-U-turn-on-arming-rebels/UPI-23501361262600/?spt=hts&or=1) reported earlier this month that the president was reconsidering that stance. If Obama commits the U.S. to arming Syrian rebels, it will be the latest example of Obama thinking and acting like a neoconservative.
Ann Coulter (http://nation.foxnews.com/ann-coulter/2013/02/22/ann-coulter-battles-libertarians) put this brand of neoconservatism on display recently during an appearance on Stossel, where she said that countries like Syria and Iran were good candidates for “regime change” and that support for "insurgents" should be considered. On the Hill, Senators John McCain (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/20/world/middleeast/mccain-and-graham-suggest-helping-syrian-rebels.html) (R-Ariz.) and Lindsey Graham (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/07/john-mccain-joe-lieberman-syria_n_1865884.html) (R-S.C.) have been arguing that the U.S. should be arming the rebels in Syria, saying that doing so would weaken Iran’s influence in the Middle East and hasten Assad’s downfall.


07-14-2013, 11:17 PM
WaPo has raised a magnimonious question if Rand refers to Obama when he says neocons:

The world according to Rand Paul (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/07/08/the-world-according-to-rand-paul/)

Washington Post (blog)-Jul 8, 2013

Let's start with his use of the term “neoconservative.” I'd like to understand to whom he is referring. President Obama?

07-15-2013, 01:40 AM
I'll never forget the democrat I met in Iowa who told me, "We thought McCain would be Bush-lite. Well, Obama is Bush-heavy, not Bush-lite."

02-09-2014, 04:00 PM
I'll never forget the democrat I met in Iowa who told me, "We thought McCain would be Bush-lite. Well, Obama is Bush-heavy, not Bush-lite."


h/t to hollywood for posting this graphic in another discussion:


SWC's neocon puppet masters game plan is working splendidy.
Lebanon is being added to the bloody trail now.