Michael Hastings Crash Investigation Heats Up, Police and Fire Told Not to comment!

[fearthereaperx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHIucZCrJKg

[fearthereaperx]

engine found in the opposite direction of car's known trajectory?

[pcosmar]

engine found in the opposite direction of car's known trajectory?

As I said in earlier threads. There was NO engine in that car when it hit the tree. It is a physical impossibility.
And no skid marks. Acceleration, braking, or sidewise slide. That car rolled into that tree after some catastrophic event.

And I have serious doubts of any investigation,, there will be obfuscation and cover-up.

[fearthereaperx]

As I said in earlier threads. There was NO engine in that car when it hit the tree. It is a physical impossibility.
And no skid marks. Acceleration, braking, or sidewise slide. That car rolled into that tree after some catastrophic event.

And I have serious doubts of any investigation,, there will be obfuscation and cover-up.


yep, looks like you were pretty much on point.

[QuickZ06]

If she winds up missing then you know something is definitely up.

[Zippyjuan]

Found a different video from LoudLabs- the first on the scene with video. At the end, it shows the engine. It looks like the car hit the tree, the engine kept going, and the car spun part of the way around the tree. Car did not hit the tree head-on dead center but with a front corner. Five minute mark for the engine. http://gawker.com/gruesome-video-appears-to-be-aftermath-of-michael-hasti-514428722

[wormyguy]

As I said in earlier threads. There was NO engine in that car when it hit the tree. It is a physical impossibility.
And no skid marks. Acceleration, braking, or sidewise slide. That car rolled into that tree after some catastrophic event.

And I have serious doubts of any investigation,, there will be obfuscation and cover-up.

So, your operative theory is that, while the car was moving, the sooper-secret evil government cabal removed the engine from his car, causing it to crash into the tree? They then, despite their magical engine levitation/disappearance powers, managed to make it so obvious that brilliant forensic scientists such as yourself could figure it out. And they couldn't possibly have done anything less obvious like poison him and make it look like a heart attack as opposed to having him die in an exploding car in broad daylight in the middle of Los Angeles. Cool story bro!

Note: Police and fire are instructed not to comment to the media on any ongoing investigation.

[Zippyjuan]

The original witness didn't speak good English so here they got a translator for him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fweyFCFKcp0

[fearthereaperx]

So, your operative theory is that, while the car was moving, the sooper-secret evil government cabal removed the engine from his car, causing it to crash into the tree? They then, despite their magical engine levitation/disappearance powers, managed to make it so obvious that brilliant forensic scientists such as yourself could figure it out. And they couldn't possibly have done anything less obvious like poison him and make it look like a heart attack as opposed to having him die in an exploding car in broad daylight in the middle of Los Angeles. Cool story bro!

Note: Police and fire are instructed not to comment to the media on any ongoing investigation.

Heart attack at 33 years old?

[fearthereaperx]

Found a different video from LoudLabs- the first on the scene with video. At the end, it shows the engine. It looks like the car hit the tree, the engine kept going, and the car spun part of the way around the tree. Car did not hit the tree head-on dead center but with a front corner. Five minute mark for the engine. http://gawker.com/gruesome-video-appears-to-be-aftermath-of-michael-hasti-514428722

Ok, so the lady in the OP video is incorrect in her assessment of the crash scene putting the engine block opposite the direction the car was traveling?

[wormyguy]

Heart attack at 33 years old?

Known to happen and doesn't make the news. Falls and breaks his neck. Mugged in a back alley and stabbed. Jumps off a bridge. Shoots himself. Unknown heart condition. Brain aneurysm. Basically anything that is less obvious than "dies in exploding car in middle of LA."

[kcchiefs6465]

Known to happen and doesn't make the news. Falls and breaks his neck. Mugged in a back alley and stabbed. Jumps off a bridge. Shoots himself. Unknown heart condition. Brain aneurysm. Basically anything that is less obvious than "dies in exploding car in middle of LA."
To say a car bomb is beyond certain elements of our government is to be ignorant of the past.

I don't know what happened to the man.

[wormyguy]

To say a car bomb is beyond certain elements of our government is to be ignorant of the past.

I don't know what happened to the man.

No, I'm stating the obvious that there are ways of discreetly killing people that are, you know, discreet.

[kcchiefs6465]

No, I'm stating the obvious that there are ways of discreetly killing people that are, you know, discreet.
That also wouldn't exclude the possibility of him being chased.

I haven't been following the case as closely as some here.

Skid marks not being at the scene makes me question the scenario... as well as other things.

Peculiar, to say the least.

[fearthereaperx]

Known to happen and doesn't make the news. Falls and breaks his neck. Mugged in a back alley and stabbed. Jumps off a bridge. Shoots himself. Unknown heart condition. Brain aneurysm. Basically anything that is less obvious than "dies in exploding car in middle of LA."

Breitbart didn't make the news?

Any high-profile person is gonna make the news if they pass away. Car crashes and plane crashes are the superior method because of a high rate of plausible deniability benefits--they happen all the time, no suspects/no investigation-- that are offered by their use. And who's to say the loud theatrics behind it aren't meant to send a strong and loud message to other marks/people?

[Zippyjuan]

Ok, so the lady in the OP video is incorrect in her assessment of the crash scene putting the engine block opposite the direction the car was traveling?

She says "behind it" but doesn't say if the engine was actually in the direction the car was travelling. .

[susano]

The engine was behind the car, not ejected ahead of the crash.

Loudlabs has some relationship with LAPD. Some peeps at other forums checked into them and they had next to no activity/videos prior to this. One vid in two or three years.

[Peace Piper]

The engine was behind the car, not ejected ahead of the crash.

Kind of like what one would expect if the car was blown up before it hit the tree.



Loudlabs has some relationship with LAPD. Some peeps at other forums checked into them and they had next to no activity/videos prior to this. One vid in two or three years.

This "loudlabs" , if it's the same has 243 videos since Sep 19, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/user/LAnewsLOUDLABS/videos

[tod evans]

And I have serious doubts of any investigation,, there will be obfuscation and cover-up.

^^^^^^^^^^ This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[donnay]

No, I'm stating the obvious that there are ways of discreetly killing people that are, you know, discreet.


That's just it--they are not being discreet on purpose. Hasting stuck his middle finger up at them and wasn't going to follow orders like the rest of the shill reporters do. The establishment doesn't like that. They sent a message to any other maverick out there who dares defy them!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoYe_tbik4g

[donnay]

The engine was behind the car, not ejected ahead of the crash.

Loudlabs has some relationship with LAPD. Some peeps at other forums checked into them and they had next to no activity/videos prior to this. One vid in two or three years.

I, personally think Loudlabs is CIA. Getting the message out loud and clear--"don't fuck with us!" Michael Hastings was working on a story about exposing the CIA.

[Dianne]

CNN’s Reliable Sources guest host John Avlon aired excerpts of a never-before-seen interview he and his wife conducted of now-deceased journalist Michael Hastings and his wife Elise Jordan last summer, in which Hastings spoke candidly about his career-making piece on General Stanley McChrystal, and the loss of his girlfriend in the Iraq War.

Hastings was killed in a car crash in Los Angeles last month, an event that has spawned numerous conspiracy theories. The interview was aired for the first time Sunday afternoon, with Jordan’s permission. CNN reported yesterday that Hastings was working on a story about CIA Director, John Brennan, at the time of his death. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Interview Here:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-airs-never-before-seen-michael-hastings-interview-i-wish-id-had-a-few-thousand-more-words/

[mrsat_98]

engine found in the opposite direction of car's known trajectory?


As I said in earlier threads. There was NO engine in that car when it hit the tree. It is a physical impossibility.
And no skid marks. Acceleration, braking, or sidewise slide. That car rolled into that tree after some catastrophic event.

And I have serious doubts of any investigation,, there will be obfuscation and cover-up.


So, your operative theory is that, while the car was moving, the sooper-secret evil government cabal removed the engine from his car, causing it to crash into the tree? They then, despite their magical engine levitation/disappearance powers, managed to make it so obvious that brilliant forensic scientists such as yourself could figure it out. And they couldn't possibly have done anything less obvious like poison him and make it look like a heart attack as opposed to having him die in an exploding car in broad daylight in the middle of Los Angeles. Cool story bro!

Note: Police and fire are instructed not to comment to the media on any ongoing investigation.


Ok, so the lady in the OP video is incorrect in her assessment of the crash scene putting the engine block opposite the direction the car was traveling?


Known to happen and doesn't make the news. Falls and breaks his neck. Mugged in a back alley and stabbed. Jumps off a bridge. Shoots himself. Unknown heart condition. Brain aneurysm. Basically anything that is less obvious than "dies in exploding car in middle of LA."


No, I'm stating the obvious that there are ways of discreetly killing people that are, you know, discreet.

He might have been drinking.

[donnay]

He might have been drinking.

He might have been texting and driving too. :rolleyes:

[green73]

I refuse to believe the establishment could have had anything to do with this!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUYMPZ4nEOY

[jtstellar]

seriously, if you want to grill people on over-the-top theories, go to dailypaul or something.

all i see is nothing but people raising reasonable doubts here, i don't know why some seems to have problems with this

[asurfaholic]

Conspiracy theorist scum! The lot of you!

[pcosmar]

Conspiracy theorist scum! The lot of you!

To believe the story spun by the MSM,, you have to suspend rational thought.

Much like this,
http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Infinite_Improbability_Drive

[asurfaholic]

To believe the story spun by the MSM,, you have to suspend rational thought.

Much like this,
http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Infinite_Improbability_Drive

No kidding. I don't believe anything that comes from the MSN.

Shoot, you can't hardly get good weather reporting anymore.

[thoughtomator]

No, I'm stating the obvious that there are ways of discreetly killing people that are, you know, discreet.

If they're too discreet about it, the message doesn't get clearly transmitted to the others who may choose the same path. They chose the sweet spot where it's obvious to anyone who already doesn't trust the government that murder-by-TLA is the most reasonable assumption, with just enough deniability to prevent it from becoming a serious scandal.

[pcosmar]

Shoot, you can't hardly get good weather reporting anymore.

Rain in the rainy areas
Wind in the windy areas
Sun in the sunny areas.

You know where you are. ;)

[Zippyjuan]

I, personally think Loudlabs is CIA. Getting the message out loud and clear--"don't fuck with us!" Michael Hastings was working on a story about exposing the CIA.

LoudLabs is an LA paparazzi outfit- they drive around LA listening to police scanners trying to find scoops on celebs.

[Zippyjuan]

That also wouldn't exclude the possibility of him being chased.

I haven't been following the case as closely as some here.

Skid marks not being at the scene makes me question the scenario... as well as other things.

Peculiar, to say the least.

Witness says no other cars in the area at the time.

[angelatc]

seriously, if you want to grill people on over-the-top theories, go to dailypaul or something.

all i see is nothing but people raising reasonable doubts here, i don't know why some seems to have problems with this



Because "reasonable" is the only thing that isn't actually believable for those people

for example, it would be reasonable to assume that his wife knew what he was working on, so why would they not kill her too?

[HOLLYWOOD]

Article from April 2012, the last sentence says it all: http://jalopnik.com/5900267/mercedes+benz-will-soon-be-able-to-upgrade-your-car-remotely
Jason Torchinsky (http://jasontorch.kinja.com) 4/09/12 4:00pm (http://jalopnik.com/5900267/mercedes+benz-will-soon-be-able-to-upgrade-your-car-remotely)

Mercedes-Benz mbrace2™
http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/mbrace2

Mercedes-Benz Will Soon Be Able To Upgrade Your Car Remotely (http://jalopnik.com/5900267/mercedes+benz-will-soon-be-able-to-upgrade-your-car-remotely)


http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17j24sgn6s2ptjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg
Ever upgrade your computer with new system software? Has it always worked perfectly, every time? Didn't think so. Would you like that same experience brought to your car — only with the added nervousness that comes from having it do it automatically without your input? You're in luck if you buy a new Mercedes-Benz!

Without much fanfare, Mercedes-Benz mentioned that as part of their mbrace2 (http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/mbrace2) (like a hug?) technology, in addition to the usual concierge and infotainment in-car systems, the German mothership can remotely update your car's system software:
And because it connects the car and the "cloud", the system can be upgraded whenever new software and applications become available.

At first glance, this seems like a good idea. Many cars now require owners to use USB thumb drives to upgrade their system software, in a somewhat clunky and lengthy process. The new Benz system could do this seamlessly, without the owner even having to be involved. But, after years of doing upgrades on Windows and Mac systems to find that afterwards wifi or Bluetooth or some piece of software no longer works, I have a policy now never to upgrade system software if I'm in the middle of a project. In fact, I usually like to wait until a weekend, just to be sure. This little bit of prudence has saved me lots of trouble.
So much of modern cars are fly-by-wire now, a car's OS upgrade can affect pretty much everything, not just infotainment and nav systems. A bug in one of the millions of lines of code could affect remote entry or fuel delivery or braking or throttle response or any number of things. And, while I'm sure Benz hires fine coders, bugs happen — that's partially why they want to do this in the first place.
Plus, there's the threat of hacking or malware. It may seem remote, until you think back and realize every major platform, in all spaces –– Windows (http://lifehacker.com/5858703/disable-autorun-to-stop-50-of-windows-malware-threats), Mac OS (http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57410702-83/flashback-the-largest-mac-malware-threat-yet-experts-say/), iOS (http://www.nextgenupdate.com/forums/ios-device-discussion/476497-dangerous-ios-malware.html), XBox 360 (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Live/Account-Security/Stolen-Account), Playstation 3 (http://www.norman.com/security_center/security_center_archive/2011/134142/en), Android (http://www.bgr.com/2012/04/05/new-android-malware-can-remotely-root-phones/), and more –– have all been hacked or had malware issues to some degree.

It's crappy to have your game system hacked, but it would be arguably much worse if you and your family sat on that game system at 70 mph on a highway.
The big difference is pretty much all platforms let you choose to download an upgrade or not. The description of the Benz system does not seem to suggest that's part of the plan, and it should be. On a trip in the middle of nowhere, I'm more likely to stick with what I know works and save some slightly better sub-smartphone in-dash web browsing feature for later.

These new systems are, and should be, coming, and I'm no luddite (despite driving cars old enough to run for President), but in some ways, Mercedes-Benz may have just given us a new way for cars to crash.




I refuse to believe the establishment could have had anything to do with this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUYMPZ4nEOY