Can Marco Rubio repair his standing with conservatives by pushing a hardline abortion ban?

[JCDenton0451]

In breaking the news about Rubio’s decision to sponsor the bill, the Weekly Standard’s Fred Barnes explained:
He is viewed as a likely candidate for the Republican presidential nomination in 2016. But he’s recently prompted serious criticism by Republicans over his support for the immigration reform bill that passed the Senate last week. His front-and-center role on a key anti-abortion measure is likely to ease concerns about him among GOP voters.

Could this actually work? Frankly, if the social conservatives are stupid enough to fall for this they deserve everything that's coming their way, including a mandatory LGBT sex education for their children and taxpayer-funding abortions.

[Warlord]

No it won't work and if he's pushing a bill with too many exemptions may backfire.

[Rocco]

It won't work because immigration is a far bigger issue to these people than abortion. Even people who've been in the fight for a while acknowledge it's very unlikely to change, where our immigration policy is very much hanging in the balance.

[JCDenton0451]

No it won't work and if he's pushing a bill with too many exemptions may backfire.

80% of Americans support abortion in cases of rape, including the majority of GOP voters. The rest don't really matter. They probably Santorum voters anyway.

[Warlord]

80% of Americans support abortion in cases of rape, including the majority of GOP voters. The rest don't really matter. They probably Santorum voters anyway.

I know they do but they're not hardline pro-lifers or Members of Congress...

80% support expanded background checks and look what happened to that.

[JCDenton0451]

It won't work because immigration is a far bigger issue to these people than abortion. Even people who've been in the fight for a while acknowledge it's very unlikely to change, where our immigration policy is very much hanging in the balance.

I don't think that's the case. Can you imagine a Senate Republican from a Southern state voting for taxpayer-funded abortions and getting away with it? But that's what essentially happened on immigration. The two senators from Tennessee both voted for Schumer-Rubio, and Tennessee is a Southern redneck state.

[JCDenton0451]

I know they do but they're not hardline pro-lifers or Members of Congress...

80% support expanded background checks and look what happened to that.

Hardline pro-lifers will go for Mr Santorum in primaries. They will then turn to Rubio when Santorum drops out.

[Southron]

No. I think they see who he really is now. That is not to say that he isn't powerful enough to win elections like Lindsey Graham though.

[Rocco]

Watch what's about to happen to the senators from Tennessee. Lamar Alexander is in serious danger of being primaried by Glenn Jacobs. Wouldn't shock me if Corker was next.

There have been GOP senators recently (Scott Brown, Olympia Snowe) who have pretty much 100% pro choice voting records. Even the republicans who are pushing this immigration fraud are trying to frame it as being conservative and would never take a stance that'd get them a 0% rating from an immigration think tank in the way those senators have a 0% rating from NRLC.


I don't think that's the case. Can you imagine a Senate Republican from a Southern state voting for taxpayer-funded abortions and getting away with it? But that's what essentially happened on immigration. The two senators from Tennessee both voted for Schumer-Rubio, and Tennessee is a Southern redneck state.

[Neil Desmond]

Not sure about conservatives in general, but with single issue conservatives who are for abortion bans he could.

[erowe1]

Rubio doesn't really need to repair his standing with conservatives. Despite what the sensationalistic wonks say, he's still in most conservatives good graces.

[Rocco]

I disagree. The guy was getting torched at my Tea Party meeting. This has lost him a TON of credibility with the tea party movement.


Rubio doesn't really need to repair his standing with conservatives. Despite what the sensationalistic wonks say, he's still in most conservatives good graces.

[erowe1]

I disagree. The guy was getting torched at my Tea Party meeting. This has lost him a TON of credibility with the tea party movement.

This happens every time immigration reform comes up. It never ends up mattering at election time.

[JCDenton0451]

Not sure about conservatives in general, but with single issue conservatives who are for abortion bans he could.

The word "Conservative" these days increasingly looks like a colloquial for old, bitter (white) people clinging to their old ways and their religion, preaching sermons against abortion etc., who also want the government to stay out of their Medicare. lol

Some kind of a symbolical abortion ban, even one that doesn't actually become a law, might be enough to win them over.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Doesn't matter...

Fascist-Corporate media will choose for the 'Manchurian Candidate' Marco Rubio in today's Pavlovian society.

It's Aspen Institute's establishment phony and we knew it, and he didn't fool many of us, but Rubio did prove we were right all along.

[erowe1]

Doesn't matter...

Fascist-Corporate media will choose for the 'Manchurian Candidate' Marco Rubio in today's Pavlovian society.

It's Aspen Institute's establishment phony and we knew it, and he didn't fool many of us, but Rubio did prove we were right all along.

That's the real issue. Rubio shored up his support with those people. And they count more than the base. Come primary time, most voters will be convinced that there are only 2-3 candidates who have a chance of winning, and these 2-3 will all be people who have the backing of the big money.

[Warlord]

HOLLYWOOD is correct (again)

Now he has Zuckerberg's millions behind him should he decide to foolishly run for president:

Meet Zuckerberg's Man in DC (he's a liberal who worked for John Kerry). Same old shell game...

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?420440-Meet-Mark-Zuckerberg-s-Man-in-DC

This is why Rubes was happy to stick his neck out for this "cause" and SCREW the Tea Party and Jim DeMint who got him into the Senate and funded his original campaign. His loyalties have changed because he has delusions of sitting in the White House.

Of course WE have other ideas...

[Warlord]

By the way our favorite blogger MP (www.mofopolitics.com) has an inarguable presidential power rankings list and ranks Rubio as #1 because of all the FASCIST and Establishment backing he will have. He ranks Rand at number 2.

Check it out:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSKCx8AH5AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSKCx8AH5AM

[JCDenton0451]

That's the real issue. Rubio shored up his support with those people. And they count more than the base. Come primary time, most voters will be convinced that there are only 2-3 candidates who have a chance of winning, and these 2-3 will all be people who have the backing of the big money. Big business doesn't get to vote in elections and primaries. People do. And if your fellow Social Conservatives can fall for a lame TV commercial that tells them Rubio is a true conservative, who will "defend life", it's their fault, not Mr. Zuckerberg's fault.

[Warlord]

Big business doesn't get to vote in elections and primaries. People do. And if your fellow Social Conservatives can fall for a lame TV commercial that tells them Rubio is a true conservative, who will "defend life", it's their fault, not Mr. Zuckerberg's fault.

Unfortunately this kind of BS works... But we'll stop it in Iowa when Rand trounces the fake.

[Xenliad]

(Insert main stream media source here) will skew an online poll, report that he's SUUUURGING, and other sources will report it as well, then the sheep will jump on board.