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FrankRep
07-06-2013, 07:16 AM
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Ted Cruz's Father Delivers Epic Speech Touting Patriotism and Lambasting Obama's 'Socialist' Inclinations (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/06/ted-cruzs-father-delivers-epic-speech-touting-patriotism-and-lambasting-obamas-socialist-inclinations/)


The Blaze
July 6, 2013


Rafael Cruz, the father of Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, invigorated the crowd during tonight’s FreedomWorks (http://www.freedomworks.org/) Free the People event.

Describing his own personal journey escaping Cuba and working hard to build a life for himself in the U.S., the elder Cruz noted comparisons that he believes exist between Fidel Castro’s governance and President Barack Obama’s executive actions.

Upon rising to power, he said that Castro, like Obama, spoke about hope and change. While the message sounded good at the time, it didn’t take long for socialism to take root in his home country. And he paid the price.

For his part in the revolution — one that many originally assumed would yield a more vibrant country — Cruz was punished while in Cuba.

“I was in prison,” he said. “I was tortured, but by the grace of God I was able to leave Cuba on a student VISA and came to the greatest country on the face of the earth.”
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Video at link:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/06/ted-cruzs-father-delivers-epic-speech-touting-patriotism-and-lambasting-obamas-socialist-inclinations/




Is Barack Obama Socialist?

2013 - Black Business Leader: Obama “Tyrannical,” “Borderline Communist” (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/14700-black-business-leader-obama-tyrannical-borderline-communist)

2012 - Communists Happy With Obama Reelection (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/13616-communists-happy-with-obama-reelection)

2011 - Obama's Communist Connections Revisited (http://www.thenewamerican.com/reviews/opinion/item/10828-obamas-communist-connections-revisited)

2012 - Obama Belonged to Radical Socialist "New Party" in 1996 (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/11652-obama-belonged-to-radical-socialist-new-party-in-1996)

2011 - College Mate: Obama Was an “Ardent” “Marxist-Leninist” (http://www.thenewamerican.com/reviews/opinion/item/6079-college-mate-obama-was-an-ardent-marxist-leninist)

Warlord
07-06-2013, 07:24 AM
They're a bit late to this game. Rep. Paul Broun was the first Member of Congress to accurately call him a socialist.

Watch:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?420313-Paul-Broun-Obama-favors-a-Socialist-approach

He has also compared his policies to Hitler specifically the idea of a strong civil defense force.

FrankRep
07-06-2013, 07:37 AM
Rafael Cruz, being from a Socialist country, has a powerful punch when compares his personal experiences of Fidel Castro with Barack Obama.

Warlord
07-06-2013, 07:40 AM
Rafael Cruz, being from a Socialist country, has a powerful punch when compares his personal experiences of Fidel Castro with Barack Obama.

True but Rep. Broun boasts he was the first to call him a socialist

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...alist-approach (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?420313-Paul-Broun-Obama-favors-a-Socialist-approach)

Antischism
07-06-2013, 07:41 AM
Except he's not really a socialist, that's just a bogeyman term used by Republicans just like the red scare with communism.

Here's what Ron Paul had to say about it.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSaQ7WPd_LM

Warlord
07-06-2013, 07:47 AM
it's true but as Broun says in his vid he favors a socialist approach and wants to spread the wealth around. Fascism/socialism whatever you want to call it.

Great video though of Ron calling out the Military Industrial Complex.

FrankRep
07-06-2013, 07:49 AM
Except he's not really a socialist, that's just a bogeyman term used by Republicans just like the red scare with communism.

Here's what Ron Paul had to say about it.

Rafael Cruz has personal experience with Socialism and calls out Barack Obama for what he is.



Is Barack Obama Socialist?

2013 - Black Business Leader: Obama “Tyrannical,” “Borderline Communist” (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/14700-black-business-leader-obama-tyrannical-borderline-communist)

2012 - Communists Happy With Obama Reelection (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/13616-communists-happy-with-obama-reelection)

2011 - Obama's Communist Connections Revisited (http://www.thenewamerican.com/reviews/opinion/item/10828-obamas-communist-connections-revisited)

2012 - Obama Belonged to Radical Socialist "New Party" in 1996 (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/11652-obama-belonged-to-radical-socialist-new-party-in-1996)

2011 - College Mate: Obama Was an “Ardent” “Marxist-Leninist” (http://www.thenewamerican.com/reviews/opinion/item/6079-college-mate-obama-was-an-ardent-marxist-leninist)

Kotin
07-06-2013, 09:06 AM
Obama is no socialist.

He is a Goldman Sachs Corporatist.

tod evans
07-06-2013, 09:09 AM
I think the prez is nothing more than a fairly slick puppet dancing on his strings..

Warlord
07-06-2013, 09:26 AM
Obama is no socialist.

He is a Goldman Sachs Corporatist.

The two have become pretty much indistinguishable though. I think both Ron and Broun are right.

I would more accurately call it FASCISM like Celente does. The merging of state and corporations. Although Hitler called his party the National Socialist Party so the two have a long history together.

thoughtomator
07-06-2013, 09:29 AM
Fascism is a variant of socialism ("corporate socialism" or "corporatism") that isn't fully compatible with regular socialism, which is why socialists and Fascists hate each other so.

Warlord
07-06-2013, 09:31 AM
Fascism is a variant of socialism ("corporate socialism" or "corporatism") that isn't fully compatible with regular socialism, which is why socialists and Fascists hate each other so.

It's all the same in my view. Both forms impoverish the average citizen while the elite get stinking rich.

enhanced_deficit
07-06-2013, 10:27 AM
Did he say anything about Rafeal Cruz's neoconish inclinations?

Cleaner44
07-06-2013, 12:07 PM
Except he's not really a socialist, that's just a bogeyman term used by Republicans just like the red scare with communism.

Here's what Ron Paul had to say about it.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSaQ7WPd_LM

It would be fun to compile an ongoing list of Obama's corporatist advancements and shove the evidence into the faces of his socialist followers.

RonPaulFanInGA
07-06-2013, 12:13 PM
This coming from a guy who fought FOR Castro to come into power.

FrankRep
07-06-2013, 12:18 PM
This coming from a guy who fought FOR Castro to come into power.

Rafael Cruz was suckered by the "hope and change" line that Obama is now spewing.


Cruz's father, Rafael Cruz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz#Personal_life), was jailed and tortured by the Fulgencio Batista regime and fought for Fidel Castro in the Cuban Revolution but "didn't know Castro was a Communist" and later became a staunch critic of Castro when "the rebel leader took control and began seizing private property and suppressing dissent."

FrankRep
07-06-2013, 12:25 PM
Obama is no socialist.

He is a Goldman Sachs Corporatist.

That's funny. I thought Communists/Socialists hated "Corporatists."


Communist Party Endorses Obama For 2012 (http://nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/2011/08/04/communist-party-endorses-obama-2012)

Fox Nation
Aug. 4, 2011


It may be early in the campaign season, but the Communist Party USA already has seen fit to endorse Barack Obama for the 2012 election.

While noting he is disappointed with "some aspects" of the Obama administration's domestic and foreign policy, Sam Webb, chairman of the Communist Party USA, threw his support behind Obama's re-election bid.


Communists Happy With Obama Reelection (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/13616-communists-happy-with-obama-reelection)

The New American
Nov. 12, 2012


The Communist Party USA and Russia expressed pleasure with Obama’s reelection, anticipating "flexibility" abroad vis-á-vis U.S. missile defense.

Peace Piper
07-06-2013, 01:17 PM
which of these definitions more closely describe the "policies" of the grinning jug eared liar?


Socialism

Socialism is an economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy.[1] "Social ownership" may refer to cooperative enterprises, common ownership, state ownership, citizen ownership of equity, or any combination of these.[2] There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them.[3] They differ in the type of social ownership they advocate, the degree to which they rely on markets or planning, how management is to be organised within productive institutions, and the role of the state in constructing socialism.[4]

A socialist economic system consists of a system of production and distribution organised to directly satisfy economic demands and human needs, so that goods and services are produced directly for use instead of for private profit driven by the accumulation of capital
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist

Using that definition Barry Soetero is no Socialist


Fascism

Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism[1][2] that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. Fascists seek to unify their nation through a totalitarian state that promotes the mass mobilization of the national community,[3][4] relying on a vanguard party to initiate a revolution to organize the nation on fascist principles.[5] Hostile to liberal democracy, socialism, and communism, fascist movements share certain common features, including the veneration of the state, a devotion to a strong leader, and an emphasis on ultranationalism and militarism. Fascism views political violence, war, and imperialism as a means to achieve national rejuvenation and asserts that stronger nations have the right to obtain land and resources by displacing weaker nations.

Fascist ideology consistently invokes the primacy of the state. Leaders such as Benito Mussolini in Italy and Adolf Hitler in Germany embodied the state and claimed indisputable power. Fascism borrowed theories and terminology from socialism but applied them to what it saw as the more significant conflict between nations and races rather than to class conflict, and focused on ending the divisions between classes within the nation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

or maybe this:

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8696/obamapurplejoker.jpg

It's hard to have a debate when different words mean different things to different people.

By the way, who is Heidi Cruz?


Cruz's wife is currently head of the Southwest Region in the Investment Management Division of Goldman, Sachs & Co. and previously worked in the White House for Condoleezza Rice and in New York as an investment banker.[62]

Perhaps the NSA has recordings of the pillow talk that goes on in the Cruz household. That would be interesting.

FrankRep
07-06-2013, 02:50 PM
which of these definitions more closely describe the "policies" of the grinning jug eared liar?


Socialism

Socialism is an economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy.[1] "Social ownership" may refer to cooperative enterprises, common ownership, state ownership, citizen ownership of equity, or any combination of these.[2] There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them.[3] They differ in the type of social ownership they advocate, the degree to which they rely on markets or planning, how management is to be organised within productive institutions, and the role of the state in constructing socialism.[4]

A socialist economic system consists of a system of production and distribution organised to directly satisfy economic demands and human needs, so that goods and services are produced directly for use instead of for private profit driven by the accumulation of capital
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist

Using that definition Barry Soetero is no Socialist



Not a single Communist/Socialist country around the world operates like that.

This isn't Karl Marx' view of Socialism.

Besides Capitalism must be corrupted and destroyed first, the Obama is right on track.

enhanced_deficit
07-07-2013, 02:50 AM
Obama is no socialist.

He is a Goldman Sachs Corporatist.

This.

Marky
07-07-2013, 06:56 AM
Is it really that gutsy to label Obama a “socialist”? It takes more guts to take on the MIC, the Orwellian state, US foreign policy, and the money power…all of which Ted Cruz and his dad will remain silent on because it implicates the same powers that control them. So they play it safe, and speak partisan hackery.

I don’t take anyone seriously who bashes Obama, but makes excuses for (or conveniently forgets) Bush (and vice versa).

FrankRep
07-07-2013, 07:10 AM
Obama is no socialist.

He is a Goldman Sachs Corporatist.


Obama is NOT a "Goldman Sachs Corporatist." Goldman Sachs supported Mitt Romney.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?420538-Did-Goldman-Sachs-Declare-War-on-Obama-and-Try-to-Defeat-Him

enhanced_deficit
07-07-2013, 11:22 AM
Obama is NOT a "Goldman Sachs Corporatist." Goldman Sachs supported Mitt Romney.


It is well known that Corporate pup masters and neecon lobbies dip their toes in both blue cheese and ranch dressing.

Goldman Sachs was top Obama donorFrom Robert Yoon, CNN Political Research Director
April 20, 2010 5:50 p.m. EDT

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/04/20/obama.goldman.donations/index.html?_s=PM:POLITICS