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tod evans
07-02-2013, 06:10 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/bolivian-minister-evo-morales-plane-rerouted-to-austria-on-suspicion-snowden-on-board/2013/07/02/af7a3eb4-e366-11e2-bffd-37a36ddab820_story.html


LA PAZ, Bolivia — The plane carrying Bolivian President Evo Morales home from Russia was rerouted to Austria on Tuesday after France and Portugal refused to let it cross their airspace because of suspicions that NSA leaker Edward Snowden was on board, the country’s foreign minister said.

Foreign Minister David Choquehuanca denied that Snowden was on the plane, which landed in Vienna, and said France and Portugal would have to explain why they canceled authorization for the plane.


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“We don’t know who invented this lie. We want to denounce to the international community this injustice with the plane of President Evo Morales,” Choquehuanca said from Vienna, where the plane landed.

Morales had earlier met with Russian President Vladimir Putin at a summit of major gas exporters in the Kremlin.

In an interview with Russia Today television, Morales said that his South American country would be willing to consider granting asylum to Snowden.

Leaks by Snowden, a former NSA systems analyst, have revealed the NSA’s sweeping data collection of U.S. phone records and some Internet traffic, though U.S. intelligence officials have said the programs are aimed at targeting foreigners and terrorist suspects mostly overseas.

He is believed to be in a Moscow airport transit area, seeking asylum from one of more than a dozen countries.

“This is a hostile act by the United States State Department which has used various European governments,” said Bolivian Defense Minister Ruben Saavedra, who was on the flight.

Choquehuanca said in a statement that after France and Portugal canceled authorization for the flight, Spain’s government allowed the plane to be refueled in its territory. From there the Falcon plane flew on to Vienna.

He said the decision by France and Portugal “put at risk the life of the president.”

Morales was in the Vienna airport Tuesday night meeting with the plane’s crew to reprogram his return to Bolivia, the defense minister Saavedra said.

Snowden has applied for asylum in Venezuela, Bolivia and 18 other countries, according to WikiLeaks, a secret spilling website that has been advising him. Many European countries on the list — including Austria, Finland, Ireland, the Netherlands, Norway, Spain and Switzerland — said he would have to make his request on their soil.

WikiLeaks said requests have also been made to Brazil, China, Cuba, Ecuador, France, Iceland, India, Italy and Nicaragua.

One of Snowden’s best chances of finding refuge outside the United States may hinge on the president of Venezuela, Nicolas Maduro, who was also in Russia on Tuesday.

Maduro told Russian reporters that his country has not received an application for asylum from Snowden and dodged the question of whether he would take him with him when he left.

But Maduro also defended the former National Security Agency systems analyst.

“Who must protect Snowden? This is the question. This young man of 29 was brave enough to say that we need to protect the world from the American imperial elite, so who should protect him?” Maduro said in response to a question from journalists covering a ceremony to rename a Moscow street after Chavez. “All of mankind, people all over the world must protect him.”

Maduro was scheduled to spend Wednesday in neighboring Belarus before returning to Venezuela.

In Venezuela, Foreign Minister Elias Jaua condemned the decision by France and Portugal.

“All the countries that have denied permission for the flight of our brother president, Evo Morales, must be held responsible for his life and his dignity as president.”

Snowden, who recently turned 30, withdrew a bid for asylum in Russia when he learned the terms Moscow had set out, according to Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov. Putin said on Monday that Russia was ready to shelter Snowden as long as he stopped leaking U.S. secrets.

At the same time, Putin said he had no plans to turn over Snowden to the United States.

Warlord
07-02-2013, 06:11 PM
This is getting ridiculous. Will Grigg right again.

Snowden's Global Prison:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?420045-Will-Grigg-Edward-Snowden-s-Global-Prison&p=5105489

69360
07-02-2013, 06:20 PM
I said a few days ago I thought they were not going to let Snowden fly into airspace of any country under the US thumb. I was right.

How does he get out of Russia now, stopover in Africa on the way to South America?

Lucille
07-02-2013, 06:24 PM
WikiLeaks WikiLeaks ‏@wikileaks 14m Italy has also been confirmed as a state that refused airspace to President Morales of Boliva's jet, suspected of carrying Edward Snowden.

WikiLeaks ‏@wikileaks 12m States now named: France, Portugal, Italy, Spain. Was the alert NATO wide? If so which NATO state gave airspace from Moscow? Germany?

torchbearer
07-02-2013, 06:28 PM
I said a few days ago I thought they were not going to let Snowden fly into airspace of any country under the US thumb. I was right.

How does he get out of Russia now, stopover in Africa on the way to South America?

he has no passport. he is in prison. it will take many brave people and a private cargo plane provided by Ross Perot to get him out.

Warlord
07-02-2013, 06:30 PM
Apparently "regular" Joe Biden is the one co-ordinating all this. What a disgrace.

torchbearer
07-02-2013, 06:33 PM
we are all dining at the restaurant at the end of the universe.

tod evans
07-02-2013, 06:44 PM
The mask is slipping...

ClydeCoulter
07-02-2013, 06:45 PM
we are all dining at the restaurant at the end of the universe.

But will be find the question to the answer of 42?

torchbearer
07-02-2013, 06:47 PM
But will be find the question to the answer of 42?

there may be a universal reset in our future.

ClydeCoulter
07-02-2013, 06:54 PM
there may be a universal reset in our future.

If things keep up at this exponential acceleration...
I've always thought that logarithmic acceleration was the only way to approach the speed of light. Could 42 be the answer to "what base must that be in, in order to escape the end, alive"?