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JoshLowry
06-30-2013, 01:28 PM
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/06/fake_drug_checkpoint_in_mayfie.html


Ric Simmons, a law professor at the Moritz College of Law at Ohio State University, said police are allowed to deceive people, thus the fake checkpoint was legal.

Thanks for clearing that up Ric.

Anti Federalist
06-30-2013, 01:31 PM
We'll put this here, mmmkay?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

angelatc
06-30-2013, 01:33 PM
Genesee County, Michigan was doing fake checkpoints, but stopped before the issue of constitutionality could be decided. http://www.mlive.com/opinion/flint/index.ssf/2011/11/our_view_sheriffs_checkpoint_r.html

ClydeCoulter
06-30-2013, 02:04 PM
"They can lie to anybody," Simmons said.

Yeah, criminals do all the time. Even on the campaign trail.

phill4paul
06-30-2013, 02:08 PM
Police lie to citizens - A-ok!

Citizens lie to police - obstruction of justice!

Amerika.

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
06-30-2013, 02:13 PM
Police lie to citizens - A-ok!

Citizens lie to police - obstruction of justice!

Amerika.


Sums it up.

tod evans
06-30-2013, 03:22 PM
Police lie to citizens - A-ok!

Citizens lie to police - obstruction of justice!

Amerika.

I don't know..

I don't remember..

I want a lawyer!..

Warlord
06-30-2013, 03:54 PM
dont talk to the police should be required viewing for all HS students AF loll

one of my all time fav's... what year did he come out with that? it's quite old isnt it?

Anti Federalist
06-30-2013, 04:00 PM
dont talk to the police should be required viewing for all HS students AF loll

one of my all time fav's... what year did he come out with that? it's quite old isnt it?

2008

Warlord
06-30-2013, 04:25 PM
2008

Thanks.. that's when I would have seen it. A vital lecture like I said every god damn student should see it and repeat: DONT TALK TO THE POLICE! EVER!

phill4paul
06-30-2013, 07:17 PM
I don't know..

I don't remember..

I want a lawyer!..

I don't need no doctor, all I need is a LAWYER!

tod evans
06-30-2013, 07:23 PM
I don't need no doctor,



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZMmV6xXYFw

phill4paul
06-30-2013, 07:25 PM
Done with it already. Can't we just pick ONE thing to be outraged about? Like the revelation, that many knew to be real, that the government has been gathering every bit of data about us?
Riots over the outcome of this trial? LMFAO.

GovBotDotNet
06-30-2013, 10:57 PM
Much confusion arises from the lack of clear communication regarding the words 'legal' and 'lawful.' 'Within the bounds of current law' is a separate concept from 'just, true, and fair.'

Deception, or fraud, is one of very few concepts which can nearly universally be agreed upon as immoral, unjust, unfair. The extent to which some individuals within a group are allowed to engage in activities which are universally agreed upon as unfair may be a useful measure in comparing ideal circumstances.

J_White
06-30-2013, 11:37 PM
Police lie to citizens - A-ok!

Citizens lie to police - obstruction of justice!

Amerika.

NSA! NSA! NSA !
oh sorry,
USA! USA! USA !

John of Des Moines
07-01-2013, 05:45 AM
I don't need no doctor, all I need is a LAWYER!

No! Do not say you need a "lawyer" or an "attorney" ever to the police. Say you wish to speak to counsel. There is a BIG difference. Read the 6th amendment's right to "assistance of counsel." Nowhere does it say anyone has the right to be represented by an attorney. When you allow yourself to be "represented" you are considered non compos mentis (http://thelawdictionary.org/non-compos-mentis/) by the court. That it why you can't object when you're on trial.

And never say you are "representing" yourself. How can you "represent" yourself when you are there in court in person prepared and ready to defend yourself.

And lastly, never say you "understand" anything. You may comprehend things, you do not understand or stand under anything.

jkr
07-01-2013, 06:04 AM
police are allowed to deceive people
police are allowed to deceive people
police are allowed to deceive people
police are allowed to deceive people
police are allowed to deceive people
police are allowed to deceive people
police are allowed to deceive people
police are allowed to deceive people
police are allowed to deceive people
police are allowed to deceive people
police are allowed to deceive people
police are allowed to deceive people

Occam's Banana
07-01-2013, 06:54 AM
I want a lawyer!..


I don't need no doctor, all I need is a LAWYER!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGdMxOKiMHo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGdMxOKiMHo

pcosmar
07-01-2013, 07:33 AM
police are allowed to deceive people
police are allowed to deceive people
police are allowed to deceive people
police are allowed to deceive people
police are allowed to deceive people
police are allowed to deceive people
police are allowed to deceive people
police are allowed to deceive people
police are allowed to deceive people
police are allowed to deceive people
police are allowed to deceive people
police are allowed to deceive people


Cops Lie. Understand this and accept the reality.

then understand this.
http://www.constitution.org/lrev/roots/cops.htm