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romeno182
06-29-2013, 05:50 AM
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/28/us/snowden-lawyer-offer/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

look up for the posters Ord Miller and synfluent in the comments section.. they are paid to smear libertarians and snowden. look up their profile and check their posting history on their profiles.. they only post on articles about those two topics


i searched for the term "paid shills" on google and look what i found

http://consciouslifenews.com/paid-internet-shill-shadowy-groups-manipulate-internet-opinion-debate/1147073/

acptulsa
06-29-2013, 02:09 PM
Just like the chanting sheep in Animal Farm. Four legs good, two legs better!

AngryCanadian
06-29-2013, 02:16 PM
Reminds me on Syria giving the expression that there is an large support for the Syrian opposition but in reality there isn't.

belian78
06-29-2013, 02:25 PM
There's paid shills on every online site. We even have them here trying to do their thing.

randomname
06-29-2013, 02:28 PM
these people are usually hired by DC PR agencies right?

Anti Federalist
06-29-2013, 02:28 PM
Freedom is Slavery.

acptulsa
06-29-2013, 02:31 PM
these people are usually hired by DC PR agencies right?

Please lay off using their own euphemisms against them.

Goebbels was just a PR man, right? Not in my book.

A propagandist by any euphemism smells just as rank in my book. Let us call spades spades, not 'eco friendly hand-powered earth relocators', shall we?

tod evans
06-29-2013, 02:36 PM
There's paid shills on every online site. We even have them here trying to do their thing.

:eek:

enhanced_deficit
06-29-2013, 02:43 PM
Who goes to CNN Controlled Neecon News anyways?

CPUd
06-29-2013, 04:11 PM
You don't need to pay people to do that type of stuff. It's not real hard to get people worked up enough to do it for free.

Warlord
06-29-2013, 04:13 PM
The shills or as we call them "DNC comment squads" are on every large site mostly liberal leaning ones and post nothing but hate about Rand Paul and libertarians constantly. POLITICO, Huffpo etc. full of them

Warlord
06-29-2013, 04:16 PM
Here's some previous instances:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?416233-DNC-comment-squad-out-in-force-tonight

Some more instances and thoughts from a wise Warlord (i.e why they dont infect Yahoo!):

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?417455-Video-Rand-Paul-on-CBS-s-This-Morning-6-11-13/page2

oyarde
06-29-2013, 07:10 PM
The shills or as we call them "DNC comment squads" are on every large site mostly liberal leaning ones and post nothing but hate about Rand Paul and libertarians constantly. POLITICO, Huffpo etc. full of them

I always thought huffpooh articles may be written by Guatemalens in jail in Mexico for illegal immigration.....

Warlord
06-29-2013, 07:17 PM
I always thought huffpooh articles may be written by Guatemalens in jail in Mexico for illegal immigration.....

The articles? No. The ranting, lunatic commenters? Definitely maybe.

oyarde
06-29-2013, 07:20 PM
The articles? No. The ranting, lunatic commenters? Definitely maybe.

lol , those too....

talkingpointes
06-29-2013, 07:20 PM
The shills or as we call them "DNC comment squads" are on every large site mostly liberal leaning ones and post nothing but hate about Rand Paul and libertarians constantly. POLITICO, Huffpo etc. full of them

DNC/RNC squads, stop with the one sided game. The RNC and DNC are the same other then the people they fool.

oyarde
06-29-2013, 07:21 PM
If these people really get pd , I wonder how much ?

Elias Graves
06-29-2013, 07:22 PM
If these people really get pd , I wonder how much ?

30 pieces of silver.

Warlord
06-29-2013, 07:24 PM
If these people really get pd , I wonder how much ?

Pays the bills no doubt through some liberal foundation... read the links. Not sure how it works. Someone should investigate it. Hey maybe it would make a nice story at SALON another pathetic, PROPAGANDA, money losing publication. And yeah their hacks are reading this so just for you guys:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dWUmgmXPTn4/S-5mUY0X0DI/AAAAAAAAAGY/iwswvnsWPOI/s1600/d149bc163fbde2f272bd0968095ced2f_kid-middle-finger.jpg

oyarde
06-29-2013, 07:26 PM
30 pieces of silver.

Thirty silver Denari are worth more than they used to be .

talkingpointes
06-29-2013, 07:28 PM
Pays the bills no doubt through some liberal foundation... read the links. Not sure how it works. Someone should investigate it. Hey maybe it would make a nice story at SALON another pathetic, PROPAGANDA, money losing publication. And yeah their hacks are reading this so just for you guys:
]

These people would have to be used to assuming any internet identity, and have no connection to the actual argument almost guaranteeing they won't turn on you. If they aren't in the country too that is better. They can use domestic ips and just hope someone doesn't figure it out. They would appear rich because they have so much time to talk online and be divisive, but they have all the time because they are paid too.

Elias Graves
06-29-2013, 07:28 PM
Thirty silver Denari are worth more than they used to be .

Indeed. 2,000 years ago, that only bought you one messiah. Now it'll get you half a nation!

oyarde
06-29-2013, 07:29 PM
Pays the bills no doubt through some liberal foundation... read the links. Not sure how it works. Someone should investigate it. Hey maybe it would make a nice story at SALON another pathetic, PROPAGANDA, money losing publication. And yeah their hacks are reading this so just for you guys:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dWUmgmXPTn4/S-5mUY0X0DI/AAAAAAAAAGY/iwswvnsWPOI/s1600/d149bc163fbde2f272bd0968095ced2f_kid-middle-finger.jpg

Ahh , nothing like a young football fan :) quite the sportsman, I may have work for him when he gets older :)

Elias Graves
06-29-2013, 07:30 PM
These people would have to be used to assuming any internet identity, and have no connection to the actual argument almost guaranteeing they won't turn on you. If they aren't in the country too that is better. They can use domestic ips and just hope someone doesn't figure it out. They would appear rich because they have so much time to talk online and be divisive, but they have all the time because they are paid too.

Im clearly doing it wrong. All I get for my internet time is a dirty look from Mrs. G.

oyarde
06-29-2013, 07:30 PM
Indeed. 2,000 years ago, that only bought you one messiah. Now it'll get you half a nation!

Very astute .

oyarde
06-29-2013, 07:32 PM
Im clearly doing it wrong. All I get for my internet time is a dirty look from Mrs. G.

I get those too , but she never stops talking while I type , I view it as skill enhancement since I know there will be a quiz later on whatever nonsense she was saying . I am getting good at this.

Elias Graves
06-29-2013, 07:32 PM
:D

Elias Graves
06-29-2013, 07:33 PM
Very astute .

It seemed appropriate.

HOLLYWOOD
06-29-2013, 07:47 PM
Everyone should realize, it's all a Fascist State running propaganda... it's been confirmed decades ago, the CIA are embedded with corporate news/whatever. eg, Jeremy Scahill mention the very rigged timing of all media hitting Glen Greenwald at the same time.

It's to the point they in Main Stream Media don't even hide it anymore... MSNBC has; FarceBook, Twitter, and whatever else the Trolls, working right behind the Propaganda Stars.

Watch Morning Joe next time, you'll see the keyboardists for hire, trolling/spamming the WWW.

talkingpointes
06-29-2013, 07:53 PM
If we need to be reminded again of what a schill is I have a couple of pictures of our good friend matt.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d175/maniswil1/collinsshit1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d175/maniswil1/collinsshit2.jpg


He still denies he ever worked for this guy. I'm trying to find my favorite picture where he brags about the interview like he just sucked the guy off.

http://www.adisgruntledrepublican.com/2011/05/dave-ramsey-gets-matt-collins-fired.html

http://kaybrooks.blogspot.com/2009/03/open-letter-to-matt-collins.html

After the punk got fired here he is HERE bitching.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?182362-Dave-Ramsey-radio-host-quot-Ron-Paul-is-still-creepy-and-not-inspirational-quot


When he's not carrying water he's updating his wiki - yeah no shit.

http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/Matt_Collins
"Collins spent the campaign managing Paul's Facebook and Twitter accounts. "

LOL "side from the Pauls, Matt Collins has advised multiple Ron Paul-style Republicans; including NC State Legislator Glen Bradley,[9] Thomas Massie and Adam Kokesh.[10] Matt Collins worked for WTN radio until, Collins claims, Dave Ramsey got him fired in 2011"

https://twitter.com/MattCollins006


http://urlm.co/www.matthewcollins.net

Leads right to bechtel? Wtf

talkingpointes
06-29-2013, 07:57 PM
I know right, we bag on the guy constantly. Who would of thunk it.

kcchiefs6465
06-29-2013, 08:03 PM
Freedom is Slavery.
I knew it.

talkingpointes
06-29-2013, 08:17 PM
I knew it.

Well there are programs on the internet to read speech and compare it. http://www.downloadcollection.com/freeware/recognition.htm

But it's obvious when someone tries to turn the spotlight, or let the truth die in a place that otherwise prides itself on it.

talkingpointes
06-29-2013, 08:18 PM
Let's recap.

If we need to be reminded again of what a schill is I have a couple of pictures of our good friend matt.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d175/maniswil1/collinsshit1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d175/maniswil1/collinsshit2.jpg


Matt is the guy trying to suck up to guys like benton that will do the dirty work. Google matt collins dave ramsey.

http://www.adisgruntledrepublican.com/2011/05/dave-ramsey-gets-matt-collins-fired.html

http://kaybrooks.blogspot.com/2009/03/open-letter-to-matt-collins.html
"Since I learned that Collins was running for DCRP chair I have been doing some research and I’ve found several things that give me pause—serious pause. So let’s start the conversation."

"I was too polite to interrupt you while you were obviously focused on that task. Your lack of reaching out does concern me. If you intend to lead the DCRP is that lack of reaching across the table be indicative of who you will work with if you do lead the DCRP? Your comment below leads me to believe that you’re bringing in your own team instead. If you truly intended to work with the rest of us…a hand offered in friendship during the caucus and convention might have been a good idea."

Matt -"It's very likely that not only will we win the local county Republican Party chair position, but that we'll also get most of the slots on the executive committee filled with fellow limited-government conservative Republicans. In other words we'll probably run our local county party.

“ Matt has exhibited to me some extremely good leadership qualities in a very, very short period of time..." http://www.rlc.org/2009/03/


After the punk got fired here he is HERE bitching.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?182362-Dave-Ramsey-radio-host-quot-Ron-Paul-is-still-creepy-and-not-inspirational-quot


When he's not carrying water he's updating his wiki - yeah no shit.

http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/Matt_Collins
"Collins spent the campaign managing Paul's Facebook and Twitter accounts. "

LOL "side from the Pauls, Matt Collins has advised multiple Ron Paul-style Republicans; including NC State Legislator Glen Bradley,[9] Thomas Massie and Adam Kokesh.[10] Matt Collins worked for WTN radio until, Collins claims, Dave Ramsey got him fired in 2011"

https://twitter.com/MattCollins006


http://urlm.co/www.matthewcollins.net

Warlord
06-29-2013, 08:57 PM
you've got nothing TP and you're getting very tiresome

compromise
06-29-2013, 09:42 PM
Collins is an American hero. We need some people who understand the reality of politics in this movement.

talkingpointes
06-29-2013, 09:47 PM
Collins is an American hero. We need some people who understand the reality of politics in this movement.

Ok. Delusions of grandeur being one of them right, couple that with a napoleon complex and I'm sure that won't end bad.

I know you are new and don't realize he's a cheeky cunt that has bummed money on this forum a few times and is the first person to spill the beans on what I would say it stuff that should be personal. (Lazy and minipulative)

He is at best a braggart and a bad liar. At worst he is going to give up whatever it takes to have women want him.

Laugh it up. If you were Rand, and you knew he was saying -he was the key to your campaign are you going to be ok with that ?

talkingpointes
06-29-2013, 09:52 PM
He deleted it last time I posted this stuff. He can debate it.

talkingpointes
06-29-2013, 09:54 PM
you've got nothing TP and you're getting very tiresome

It took you two hours to think of that. Go back to your cave. We don't want to get any "pleb" blood on you.

compromise
06-29-2013, 09:56 PM
Ok. Delusions of grandeur being one of them right, couple that with a napoleon complex and I'm sure that won't end bad.

I know you are new and don't realize he's a cheeky cunt that has bummed money on this forum a few times and is the first person to spill the beans on what I would say it stuff that should be personal. (Lazy and minipulative)

He is at best a braggart and a bad liar. At worst he is going to give up whatever it takes to have women want him.

Laugh it up. If you were Rand, and you knew he was saying -he was the key to your campaign are you going to be ok with that ?

Collins may have a big ego, but you need to be confident, assertive and self-assured to succeed in the sort of jobs he does.

Warlord
06-29-2013, 10:09 PM
Collins doesn't have a big ego at all. He's just messing most of the time. TP's desire to dig stuff up on posters is somewhat disturbing.

kcchiefs6465
06-29-2013, 10:41 PM
Well there are programs on the internet to read speech and compare it. http://www.downloadcollection.com/freeware/recognition.htm

But it's obvious when someone tries to turn the spotlight, or let the truth die in a place that otherwise prides itself on it.
I was just joking that AF was a paid shill because he said, "Freedom is slavery."

Sounds like something a government shill would say. :D

Matt is Matt. Unless he says something ridiculously egotistical I just ignore it. I think all in all he tries to promote liberty but the way he says things just irks me sometimes. Winning Minnesota, Tennessee DUI blood laws etc. I don't know. Never met him personally so I can't say too much.

talkingpointes
06-30-2013, 09:34 AM
I was just joking that AF was a paid shill because he said, "Freedom is slavery."

Sounds like something a government shill would say. :D

Matt is Matt. Unless he says something ridiculously egotistical I just ignore it. I think all in all he tries to promote liberty but the way he says things just irks me sometimes. Winning Minnesota, Tennessee DUI blood laws etc. I don't know. Never met him personally so I can't say too much.

Ok but when he shows up to protect Jesse and not Ron that doesn't raise eyes brows. Check his history he did it more then once. The guy isn't just egotistical. That is a very nice way to put it. He is not politically astute either.

He's a wanna be that's it. He is a full on loser that is trying to cuddle up with anyone that will help him look better.

Case in point -- Matt never comes here to talk about anything anymore but "ohhh ohhohohohoh I overheard that jesse is about to come under attack for helping mcconnel, somehow this might hurt Ron- but lets worry about Jesse.

The same guy that is not a Ron Paul supportor.

You need to admit it dude, they made a huge mistake being nice to him they guy is a snitch.


Matt cannot get laid how is he going to ever be popular outside of being made fun of and used. Are you guys kidding me -- he's a perfect tool. He's a loser that is fairly ugly (lets be honest) if you were a women like kucinnich's wife you would stand back too. She did even want to be in the same frame. ROFL LOL

talkingpointes
06-30-2013, 09:40 AM
Collins doesn't have a big ego at all. He's just messing most of the time. TP's desire to dig stuff up on posters is somewhat disturbing.

If you don't stop I will post everything on you next. You are a nobody, not even a fucking American. You can't vote or come here legally. You're just a voice that detracts our work for your own pleasure.

If I wanted to I can find out exactly who you are too. (it might take me a week, but I guarantee once I start posting your address and info it won't be fun anymore) I have access to more info on Americans and Canadians then you can imagine. Please test me.

You never have anything of substance to say. You talk about the size of my post but not their content. Becuase you're a coward.

talkingpointes
06-30-2013, 09:52 AM
I think I might of found you already. I definately had the wrong person before.

Lucille
06-30-2013, 10:45 AM
Pays the bills no doubt through some liberal foundation... read the links. Not sure how it works. Someone should investigate it. Hey maybe it would make a nice story at SALON another pathetic, PROPAGANDA, money losing publication. And yeah their hacks are reading this so just for you guys:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dWUmgmXPTn4/S-5mUY0X0DI/AAAAAAAAAGY/iwswvnsWPOI/s1600/d149bc163fbde2f272bd0968095ced2f_kid-middle-finger.jpg

I encourage any govt-paid shills and sockpuppets here to become whistleblowers, and all is forgiven, and they might even earn a hero avatar!

tod evans
06-30-2013, 10:51 AM
Government jobs = Highgrade welfare

talkingpointes
06-30-2013, 10:56 AM
these people are usually hired by DC PR agencies right?

No by one company DCI Group. I used to work for them. Look them up.

Warlord
06-30-2013, 11:08 AM
If you don't stop I will post everything on you next. You are a nobody, not even a fucking American. You can't vote or come here legally. You're just a voice that detracts our work for your own pleasure.

If I wanted to I can find out exactly who you are too. (it might take me a week, but I guarantee once I start posting your address and info it won't be fun anymore) I have access to more info on Americans and Canadians then you can imagine. Please test me.

You never have anything of substance to say. You talk about the size of my post but not their content. Becuase you're a coward.

See, you're total weirdo. If you want to PM me you can but will only take them encrypted for security reasons:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?419837-Revealed-How-to-stop-the-NSA-snooping-on-your-emails

talkingpointes
06-30-2013, 11:10 AM
See, you're total weirdo. If you want to PM me you can but will only take them encrypted for security reasons:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?419837-Revealed-How-to-stop-the-NSA-snooping-on-your-emails

I'm the wierdo? You're the guy that spends 24/7 on this site blowing hard for people that have screwed us over big time and using multiple accounts to do so.

It's also apparent you are not you say you are.

Best of all what are you going to do to stop me -- nothing.

Alex Libman
06-30-2013, 11:15 AM
I think we need to stop for a minute and ask - what's the logical definition of the word "shill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill)"?

I've never been a paid a cent to write commentary on the Internet, but if I had been, I would admit it. I've also never solicited or received any donations for my commentary - but maybe someday, openly and proudly, I will. Would that cause some people, with more malice than brains, to start calling me a "paid shill"?

Being paid to write isn't immoral in of itself. It might suggest further inquiry into one's integrity, but being paid isn't proof that one's position is immoral or wrong. There are arguments that require diligent research and explanation, and not enough people willing to do this for free - it is, after all, very tedious, mentally exhausting, stressful, unrewarding work. Not everyone can quit their job in the name of dedicating time to study and online forums, and wind up living in the woods like me (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?417696-The-Libertarian-Solution-To-End-Homelessness)...

So there's absolutely nothing wrong with someone interested in those arguments hiring an assistant. If you believe in libertarian ideas but can make $200/hr lawyering, and someone else can express your ideas online just as well for $20/hr, why not make use of this division of labor for optimal results?

There is a huge amount of government money going to "paid shills" in academia, virtually all of whom are pushing for more and more socialism in whatever ways that they can. Even the weather has been politicized and spun into an excuse for trillions of dollars in additional government powers! These days this is considered the norm. But when anyone outside of government / academic hires a research and online communications assistant, on the other hand, they are automatically a "shill"...

Warlord
06-30-2013, 11:23 AM
I'm the wierdo? You're the guy that spends 24/7 on this site blowing hard for people that have screwed us over big time and using multiple accounts to do so.

It's also apparent you are not you say you are.

Best of all what are you going to do to stop me -- nothing.

You accuse me of posting nothing of substance. see the encryption thread. I would have thought that might be something you'd be interested in.

I'm not here 24/7 although I am in front of a computer, laptop or have another device to hand most of the day. Have done for 12 years. Before RPF I was posting on usenet politics forums so well used to dealing with trolls like you.

I dont have multiple accounts and I'm only here because the mods/admins permit it. Just like you. Stalking/threatening to post personal info is against their rules. I know that because I had to read them agan so maybe you should have a refresher too