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Warlord
06-24-2013, 01:55 AM
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Eric H. Holder Jr.

The authorities in Hong Kong made a political decision to wash their hands of National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden and used quibbles about U.S. legal documents as cover to allow him to fly to Moscow despite a direct plea from Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. to make an arrest, U.S. officials said.

Snowden’s ability to board an Aeroflot flight Sunday to Moscow, despite the revocation of his passport and the warrant for his arrest, was one more move in a series of artful legal and diplomatic maneuvers that have involved China, the Kremlin, WikiLeaks and the Ecuadoran government and kept the 30-year-old outside the grasp of the normally long arm of U.S. justice.

The Obama administration and politicians on Capitol Hill are likely to be infuriated if Snowden makes it to Ecuador, where he has requested asylum. But the former contractor who had worked at an NSA facility in Hawaii until he fled to Hong Kong skillfully placed his fate in the hands of WikiLeaks and countries that nurse animosities toward the United States. And Snowden’s odyssey is likely to exacerbate the United States’ strained relations with China and Russia.

“It is unfortunate that Hong Kong inappropriately failed to take action on our requests of them and permitted a fugitive to simply leave their country in an obvious attempt to escape justice,” a senior administration official said Sunday evening. In a statement earlier Sunday, the Hong Kong government said it had been provided “no legal basis to restrict Mr. Snowden from leaving.”

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On June 17, Hong Kong acknowledged receipt of the request, but officials in the Chinese territory did not respond to U.S. inquiries about whether they needed further information, according to a U.S. official who provided a timeline of events on the condition of anonymity. Officials in Hong Kong told the United States that the case was under review.

Two days later, Holder placed a phone call to his counterpart, Hong Kong Secretary for Justice Rimsky Yuen, and stressed the importance of the matter. He urged Hong Kong “to honor our request for Snowden’s arrest,” the U.S. official said.

On Friday, Hong Kong authorities requested more information about the charges, and the United States was in the process of responding when the Justice Department learned that Snowden had left, the U.S. official said.

“At no point, in all of our discussions through Friday, did the authorities in Hong Kong raise any issues regarding the sufficiency of the U.S.’s provisional arrest request,” the official said. “In light of this, we find their decision to be particularly troubling.”


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/legal-political-maneuvering-let-snowden-flee/2013/06/23/5643e0b6-dc36-11e2-bd83-e99e43c336ed_story_1.html

UWDude
06-24-2013, 02:00 AM
“At no point, in all of our discussions through Friday, did the authorities in Hong Kong raise any issues regarding the sufficiency of the U.S.’s provisional arrest request,” the official said. “In light of this, we find their decision to be particularly troubling.”



Oh, wait. I know the answer to this one!
Um.. ummmmm....

Was it, Hong Kong wanted to know about the little part about the United States spying on every person in Hong Kong too?

Is that why they denied the request, maybe? Hmm? Do you think, America? Do you think? Do you ever, ever fucking think?

Constitutional Paulicy
06-24-2013, 02:10 AM
Is that why they denied the request, maybe? Hmm? Do you think, America? Do you think? Do you ever, ever fucking think?

LOL + Rep :D


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tod evans
06-24-2013, 03:03 AM
Ummm,

Hey Eric you left these in the oval office.

Hong Kong would have been much more receptive if you'd shown them the same deference..

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kathy88
06-24-2013, 03:48 AM
This is almost comical. They are SO scared about what he knows. Desperate assholes.

better-dead-than-fed
06-24-2013, 04:36 AM
DOJ, you are being made bitches of, in front of the whole world.

tod evans
06-24-2013, 04:37 AM
DOJ, you are being made bitches of, in front of the whole world.

Good!


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angelatc
06-24-2013, 12:54 PM
This is almost comical. They are SO scared about what he knows. Desperate assholes.

I think that's part of it, but I also think they they are primarily motivated by a list for power. This little bastard bolted from his pasture without permission. Unforgivable. I'm sure it pisses them off that we even have to attempt diplomacy. And it must REALLY piss them off when they get these subtle reminders that our "allies" aren't necessarily our lapdogs. The rest of the world seem to be subtly relishing the chance to subtly stick a thumb in Uncle Sam's eye.

God knows we are the biggest bullies in the world...it's like seeing the kid that steals your lunch money getting hauled to the principal's office for something he didn't do. Yeah, you could speak up, but.....

But indeed. There's always some little sniveling rat faced punk willing to sell out the greater good for immediate gratification. We just don't know who that will be yet.

I'm hoping he didn't go to Cuba. I wouldn't trust them, because they're too poor.

trey4sports
06-24-2013, 12:59 PM
im curious... what happens once he gets to his destination ? Do the Russians then give him money to live? Is he allowed to find work in the country or must he hide for the rest of his life?

Brian4Liberty
06-24-2013, 01:16 PM
Of course Eric Holder and the US will work oh so hard to arrest and return every Chinese or Tibetan dissident...

Hypocrisy much?

TonySutton
06-24-2013, 01:55 PM
My guess is that Snowden passed something to HK officials that gave them reason to turn down US requests. He is proven to be a pretty smart guy so I imagine he has a pocket full of get out of jail cards ;)

One Man Wolf Pack
06-24-2013, 03:05 PM
My guess is that Snowden passed something to HK officials that gave them reason to turn down US requests. He is proven to be a pretty smart guy so I imagine he has a pocket full of get out of jail cards ;)

I always carry a stack with me from my kids Monopoly game :D

surf
06-24-2013, 03:19 PM
I love it.

"sorry, these forms are insufficient. please gather the required documentation, re-file this form in duplicate, take a number, and wait over there until your number is called."

if there is room for a couple bureaucrats in heaven, some from Hong Kong should be allowed in.

HOLLYWOOD
06-24-2013, 03:38 PM
Snowden holds those 'Trump Cards'

SO... while Eric Holder was pleading with Hong Kong government to arrest Snowden, did he happen to answer HKSAR's formal clarification of spying on everything Hong Kong?
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/06-2/Snowden%20HK.png (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=z3tREtmkPwh5xM&tbnid=z6qBeaaKe_ySpM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fnews%2F2013-06-23%2Fedward-snowden-leaves-hong-kong-flight-moscow&ei=MLvIUeyIFuOQjAKgnoCgBw&bvm=bv.48293060,d.cGE&psig=AFQjCNFRKq5-Ytn5RwlJX4ZlubQbU0gPAw&ust=1372196008911250)
BTW... Hong Kong advertisements(Which of course you won't see on Fascist US corporate media.

http://www.popularresistance.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/HKSupportforSnowden.preview.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=1riN4AltLqt9nM&tbnid=vAnGNeoFNj6nBM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.popularresistance.org%2Fwhy-did-edward-snowden-go-to-hong-kong-2%2F&ei=TLrIUaHBPO_oiwKOvoGgCg&bvm=bv.48293060,d.cGE&psig=AFQjCNGWcOnb8LW-RZOGYFcczWNGt7L2Fg&ust=1372195778058275)

HOLLYWOOD
06-24-2013, 04:29 PM
I love it.

"sorry, these forms are insufficient. please gather the required documentation, re-file this form in duplicate, take a number, and wait over there until your number is called."

if there is room for a couple bureaucrats in heaven, some from Hong Kong should be allowed in.FOX NEWS propaganda mouth pieces and their partner's in crime, Fascist media, are attacking/demonizing this very issue. Calling Hong Kong government, "corrupt, communists, restricts speech, oppresses it people, everything and anything you can do to degrading, disparaging/derogatory of remarks, count on US corporate media marginalization to continue.

FOX NEWS' Your World with Neil Cavuto, filling in was Stuart Varney, Well, guess who they had on to talk about Eduard Snowden, WIKILEAKS, Hong Kong?

Arron Cohen a, FOX/NEWSCORP paid pundit, as a 'Counter terrorism Expert' :rolleyes:

Here's Cohen's bio:
Aaron Cohen (born 28 February 1976) is an American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) writer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writer), director (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_director), actor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actor), author (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Author) and former counter-terrorist operative best known for his international bestselling memoir Brotherhood of Warriors (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brotherhood_of_Warriors&action=edit&redlink=1).



Born
28 February 1976
Montreal, Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal)


Allegiance
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Service/branch
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Years of service
1995-1998


Rank
First Sergeant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Sergeant) (סמל ראשון (סמ"ר


Unit
Duvdevan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duvdevan) Special Forces Counter-Terrorist Unit




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Slamming/marginalizing everyone and anything except the US government.... nice 1984 episode and using foreigners to push the MeMe now? awful

sailingaway
06-24-2013, 07:18 PM
between fast and furious and IRS and his testimony to congress, someone should arrest HIM first.

sailingaway
06-24-2013, 07:20 PM
My guess is that Snowden passed something to HK officials that gave them reason to turn down US requests. He is proven to be a pretty smart guy so I imagine he has a pocket full of get out of jail cards ;)

I think that just by showing what spying was going on he did them a service and that the government does NOT have support of even US citizens in this (54% THINK Snowden did a good thing, per polls) I suspect the Chinese government is simply enjoying this.