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noztnac
11-26-2007, 07:56 PM
I think Ron Paul should go after black voters. It would be a first for a Republican candidate and would put an end to rumors that he is a racist.

Recently on the Alex Jones show Ron Paul stated that two of his heroes were Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr.

I suggest he place an ad in Ebony or Jet magazine.

I think it would play well , not only to black voters, but to people in general who have become disillusioned with what the Republican party has become.

It would probably make headlines in the major news outlets just because it would be so unexpected.

noztnac
11-26-2007, 08:01 PM
Ron Paul needs a speech like this.

MLK


I am happy to join with you today in what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation.

Five score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we stand today, signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of Negro slaves who had been seared in the flames of withering injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of their captivity.

But one hundred years later, the Negro still is not free. One hundred years later, the life of the Negro is still sadly crippled by the manacles of segregation and the chains of discrimination. One hundred years later, the Negro lives on a lonely island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of material prosperity. One hundred years later, the Negro is still languished in the corners of American society and finds himself an exile in his own land. And so we've come here today to dramatize a shameful condition.

In a sense we've come to our nation's capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all men, yes, black men as well as white men, would be guaranteed the "unalienable Rights" of "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note, insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check, a check which has come back marked "insufficient funds."

But we refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt. We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the great vaults of opportunity of this nation. And so, we've come to cash this check, a check that will give us upon demand the riches of freedom and the security of justice.

We have also come to this hallowed spot to remind America of the fierce urgency of Now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to make real the promises of democracy. Now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of segregation to the sunlit path of racial justice. Now is the time to lift our nation from the quicksands of racial injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood. Now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God's children.

It would be fatal for the nation to overlook the urgency of the moment. This sweltering summer of the Negro's legitimate discontent will not pass until there is an invigorating autumn of freedom and equality. Nineteen sixty-three is not an end, but a beginning. And those who hope that the Negro needed to blow off steam and will now be content will have a rude awakening if the nation returns to business as usual. And there will be neither rest nor tranquility in America until the Negro is granted his citizenship rights. The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until the bright day of justice emerges.

But there is something that I must say to my people, who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice: In the process of gaining our rightful place, we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not allow our creative protest to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again, we must rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force.

The marvelous new militancy which has engulfed the Negro community must not lead us to a distrust of all white people, for many of our white brothers, as evidenced by their presence here today, have come to realize that their destiny is tied up with our destiny. And they have come to realize that their freedom is inextricably bound to our freedom.

We cannot walk alone.

And as we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall always march ahead.

We cannot turn back.

There are those who are asking the devotees of civil rights, "When will you be satisfied?" We can never be satisfied as long as the Negro is the victim of the unspeakable horrors of police brutality. We can never be satisfied as long as our bodies, heavy with the fatigue of travel, cannot gain lodging in the motels of the highways and the hotels of the cities. *We cannot be satisfied as long as the negro's basic mobility is from a smaller ghetto to a larger one. We can never be satisfied as long as our children are stripped of their self-hood and robbed of their dignity by a sign stating: "For Whites Only."* We cannot be satisfied as long as a Negro in Mississippi cannot vote and a Negro in New York believes he has nothing for which to vote. No, no, we are not satisfied, and we will not be satisfied until "justice rolls down like waters, and righteousness like a mighty stream."¹



I am not unmindful that some of you have come here out of great trials and tribulations. Some of you have come fresh from narrow jail cells. And some of you have come from areas where your quest -- quest for freedom left you battered by the storms of persecution and staggered by the winds of police brutality. You have been the veterans of creative suffering. Continue to work with the faith that unearned suffering is redemptive. Go back to Mississippi, go back to Alabama, go back to South Carolina, go back to Georgia, go back to Louisiana, go back to the slums and ghettos of our northern cities, knowing that somehow this situation can and will be changed.

Let us not wallow in the valley of despair, I say to you today, my friends.

And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."

I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of "interposition" and "nullification" -- one day right there in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.

I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, and every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight; "and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together."²

This is our hope, and this is the faith that I go back to the South with.

With this faith, we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope. With this faith, we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood. With this faith, we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.

And this will be the day -- this will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with new meaning:

My country 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing.

Land where my fathers died, land of the Pilgrim's pride,

From every mountainside, let freedom ring!

And if America is to be a great nation, this must become true.



And so let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire.

Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York.

Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of
Pennsylvania.

Let freedom ring from the snow-capped Rockies of Colorado.

Let freedom ring from the curvaceous slopes of California.

But not only that:

Let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia.

Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee.

Let freedom ring from every hill and molehill of Mississippi.

From every mountainside, let freedom ring.

And when this happens, when we allow freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual:

Free at last! Free at last!

Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!³

Hope
11-26-2007, 08:04 PM
Ron Paul doesn't believe in collectivism, and trying to specifically go after one group because they are black is in itself a kind of racist mindset.

Also, I don't think many politically minded people read Ebony or Jet magazine. Or Cosmo or Fitness Today, for that matter. Sure, there are some people who read it that must be interested in politics, but they are in the vast minority.

Besides which, only ten percent of black people vote Republican. I'm all for bringing more people into the Republican Party, but the main goal -- the most effective one for the money invested -- should be to convince those people already voting the Republican ticket and who have a history of voting to listen to RP's message.

noztnac
11-26-2007, 08:05 PM
Top 100 speeches

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/top100speechesall.html

We need to craft a masterpiece. I suggest we all submit speeches and ideas that fit Ron Paul's message of freedom, prosperity, and peace and post them, tweak them, and perfect them.

Post complete speeches, phrases, or ideas.

Hope
11-26-2007, 08:09 PM
Top 100 speeches

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/top100speechesall.html

We need to craft a masterpiece. I suggest we all submit speeches and ideas that fit Ron Paul's message of freedom, prosperity, and peace and post them, tweak them, and perfect them.

Post complete speeches, phrases, or ideas.

Do you realize how many emails the campaign receives each day? For every email sent, that is our money that is being taken away as someone hired by the campaign must process and respond to those concerns. That is time taken away from the campaign's activities.

The last thing they need is for their supporters to try to backseat drive. We don't need to tell RP what quotes to use in what speeches. That isn't our job. The real fear I have about our campaign is that people will turn it into a snake with three heads, trying to put their ideas and their opinions and their strategy before the official campaign's. We have a lot of work to do on the ground, we should stick with the clearly defined goals that have been given to us in order to win this thing.

noztnac
11-27-2007, 01:47 AM
Do you realize how many emails the campaign receives each day? For every email sent, that is our money that is being taken away as someone hired by the campaign must process and respond to those concerns. That is time taken away from the campaign's activities.

The last thing they need is for their supporters to try to backseat drive. We don't need to tell RP what quotes to use in what speeches. That isn't our job. The real fear I have about our campaign is that people will turn it into a snake with three heads, trying to put their ideas and their opinions and their strategy before the official campaign's. We have a lot of work to do on the ground, we should stick with the clearly defined goals that have been given to us in order to win this thing.

It would really be hard for me to disagree more with you. The official campaign has thus far been a miserable failure on many levels. In contrast, the grassroots effort has been a huge success.

I wasn't saying we should send every idea off the top of our heads. I was saying we should craft our ideas here, test them out, criticise them, debate them, and ultimately send two or three of the best speeches we come up with to the campaign.

Until I hear Ron Paul give a good speech I am inclined to think he needs help.

He is a very intelligent man with integrity and great ideas but he is not a very good speaker.

He has a tendency to whine and sound exasperated and his ideas come so fast that he often stumbles over his own words.

I have personally submitted quotes to someone inside the campaign and they have been used.

If I had followed your advice that would not have happened.

As for these clearly defined goals that have been given to us....What the hell are you talking about? There are no "clearly defined goals". They can't even agree on weather we should send money now or to wait until the Tea Party.

If you object to coming up with ideas to help Ron Paul win perhaps you'd be better off working for the kind of top down campaign you describe. Romney and Giuliani certainly need people to take orders.

noztnac
11-27-2007, 01:54 AM
[QUOTE=Hope;470106]Ron Paul doesn't believe in collectivism, and trying to specifically go after one group because they are black is in itself a kind of racist mindset.

So what? If you want to reach boy scouts you advertise in Boy's Life. If you want to reach the elderly you advertise in Reader's Digest. If you want to reach black people you advertise in Ebony.

There's nothing wrong with aknowledging that the races are different in certain ways.

You need to drop all that politically correct nonsense and deal with reality. I'm not trying to denigrate black people. I'm saying that I want to include them in a party that has completely ignored them by assuming they only vote for democrats.

Ron Paul is reshaping the Republican Party. And he's not doing so by ignoring large groups of people because they don't happen to be his same skin color.

noztnac
11-27-2007, 01:57 AM
And Hope,

I just went and looked up your profile to try to get a grasp of where you are coming from.

One of your posts was "Where are all the women?"

What is the difference between trying to reach a demographic based on race and trying to reach a demographic based on gender?

dirknb@hotmail.com
11-27-2007, 06:02 PM
I think the money bomb to follow 12/16 should be Martin Luther King Day.

noztnac
11-27-2007, 06:52 PM
I think the money bomb to follow 12/16 should be Martin Luther King Day.


An excellent idea!