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Spoa
06-20-2013, 12:03 PM
Here's something to make you all happy:


Chad Pergram ‏@ChadPergram 1m
Boehner mum as he walked to Speaker's Office after farm bill defeat. Didn't answer questions.

I'll post the roll call when it is in. Until then, I'll be posting member's comments, etc. here.

Feel free to share your thoughts.

62 Republicans voted no. :)

We're taking over!

ROLL CALL VOTE: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll286.xml

Spoa
06-20-2013, 12:04 PM
Rep Robert Pittenger ‏@RepPittenger 31s
Voted against #FarmBill | Oversight & reforms demand programs stand on their own http://ow.ly/mempq #accountability

Here's one who voted no. :) Rep. Pittenger!

http://pittenger.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/true-washington-pork-the-farm-bill-that-eats-everything

Spoa
06-20-2013, 12:07 PM
bump.

tsai3904
06-20-2013, 12:09 PM
Roll call:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll286.xml

Spoa
06-20-2013, 12:12 PM
Roll call:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll286.xml

I was just about to post this. :) I'll post in OP.

supermario21
06-20-2013, 12:13 PM
Sanford FTW, disappointed my Republican rep voted for it. Paul Ryan broke with the establishment I see lol.

Origanalist
06-20-2013, 12:15 PM
http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4596883042927389&pid=15.1

Origanalist
06-20-2013, 12:17 PM
Boehner mum as he walked to Speaker's Office after farm bill defeat. Didn't answer questions.

:) http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4636379588853836&pid=15.1

Bastiat's The Law
06-20-2013, 12:21 PM
Bentivolio c'mon man!

KEEF
06-20-2013, 12:21 PM
Boehner mum as he walked to Speaker's Office after farm bill defeat. Didn't answer questions.

Must not of had his convention teleprompter with him:D

ronpaulfollower999
06-20-2013, 12:22 PM
I missed the discussion on this. What was the problem with the bill?

Spoa
06-20-2013, 12:23 PM
I missed the discussion on this. What was the problem with the bill?

Unconstitutional subsidies, crop insurance, and 80% food stamps. Read more here: http://blog.heritage.org/2013/06/19/speaker-boehner-whats-free-market-about-the-farm-bill/

Spoa
06-20-2013, 12:24 PM
Chad Pergram ‏@ChadPergram 1m
Cantor spokesman Rory Cooper on farm bill defeat: Everybody thought this was going to pass.

Makes this victory even sweeter.

ronpaulfollower999
06-20-2013, 12:25 PM
Bizarro world when the Democrats give us a little fiscal responsibility for once.

Spoa
06-20-2013, 12:25 PM
Chad Pergram ‏@ChadPergram 55s
GOP Whip McCarthy on farm bill defeat: We can correct the bill if they're (Democrats) not going to help us.

I hope by "correct", he means that they're going to listen to conservatives.

Spoa
06-20-2013, 12:26 PM
Bizarro world when the Democrats give us a little fiscal responsibility for once.

They voted against it because they wanted more spending on food stamps. They thought Republicans cut too much.

ronpaulfollower999
06-20-2013, 12:30 PM
They voted against it because they wanted more spending on food stamps. They thought Republicans cut too much.

Lol...typical.

Spoa
06-20-2013, 12:45 PM
Congressman Jeff Duncan
The House Farm bill just failed by a vote of 195-234. I voted AGAINST the bill because it locks in spending at stimulus levels. To put the size of the Farm bill in perspective, this version was nearly twice the size of the one that President Bush vetoed in 2008. Simply, it's too much spending and it's unfair for the country to combine welfare spending and agricultural policy in the same bill.

Another conservative who voted no! :) Be sure to thank these GOP members who voted against the bill. Leadership is going to be whipping them harder.

tangent4ronpaul
06-20-2013, 12:49 PM
Unconstitutional subsidies, crop insurance, and 80% food stamps. Read more here: http://blog.heritage.org/2013/06/19/speaker-boehner-whats-free-market-about-the-farm-bill/

Wasn't it also packed with Monsanto crap?

Now what? It's not like they are going to nix food stamps and farm subsidies...

-t

Origanalist
06-20-2013, 12:52 PM
Wasn't it also packed with Monsanto crap?

Now what? It's not like they are going to nix food stamps and farm subsidies...

-t

There are no surrender papers signed, the shit continues. :(

jbauer
06-20-2013, 12:53 PM
Wasn't it also packed with Monsanto crap?

Now what? It's not like they are going to nix food stamps and farm subsidies...

-t

No, it was packed with food stamps. Monsanto is just the buzz word everyone uses to hate farmers who feed them. 80%+ of the farm bill was food stamps. That's really the only significant place there were any increases that the Dems wanted.

erowe1
06-20-2013, 12:55 PM
Roll call:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll286.xml

Whoa! Paul Ryan voted Nay. I'm guessing that was on accident.

jmdrake
06-20-2013, 12:56 PM
Bentivolio c'mon man!

Was there money in it for reindeer farmers?

Spoa
06-20-2013, 01:08 PM
Was there money in it for reindeer farmers?

Big disappointment. I was beginning to forgive him when he voted against DHS Appropriations and several other good votes, but this is a huge slap in the face. He's back to being in the negative range now.

Spoa
06-20-2013, 01:19 PM
Was there money in it for reindeer farmers?

Apparently, he even wants to give the people coal: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll274.xml

Voted to keep the Christmas Tree Tax in this Farm Bill.

CaseyJones
06-20-2013, 01:37 PM
Thomas Massie got his Hemp Amendment in and then voted against the bill, nice

Spoa
06-20-2013, 01:42 PM
Here's a GOPer who thinks that we should do something, even if it is a disaster:

http://daines.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid=25&itemid=479

(Gives me no happiness to post this. He was one of the first candidates I supported in 2012.)

Spoa
06-20-2013, 01:44 PM
I know a lot of you don't like Rep. Cotton, but credit where credit is due. He was the ONLY member of the Arkansas delegation to vote NO on the Farm Bill:

http://cotton.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/cotton-statement-on-the-2013-farm-bill-vote


“I grew up on my family’s small farm in Yell County and still work on it today. I had hoped this bill would be good for Arkansas farmers and taxpayers, but it turned out badly for both. President Obama’s failed policies have turned what should be a Farm Bill into the Food Stamp Bill, expanding by $300 billion a food-stamp program riddled with fraud and abuse. Because 80% of this bill was food stamps and Arkansas farmers expected to receive less than 1% of the bill’s whopping $940 billion price tag, it was a bad deal for Arkansas farmers and taxpayers.”

Spoa
06-20-2013, 01:52 PM
Chad Pergram ‏@ChadPergram 1m
GOP Rep Stutzman who voted no: While it might have been called a ‘Farm Bill,’ the American people understand that it was anything but.


Chad Pergram ‏@ChadPergram 1m
GOP Rep Stutzman who voted no: This trillion dollar spending bill is too big and would have passed welfare policy on the backs of farmers.

Thank you Rep. Stutzman!

tangent4ronpaul
06-20-2013, 01:56 PM
Christmas tree tax? Bloody hell! I realize it's only .15 cents a tree, but this IS the gvmt so I expect that sales receipt to be looking like my phone bill in no time...

I wonder what the unfunded paperwork load will impose on tree farmers/sellers. If it will drive any of them out of business. But hay, didn't you all love those "Got Milk" ads? it's sooo worth the extra tax to see stuff like that :rolleyes:

-t

Bastiat's The Law
06-20-2013, 02:13 PM
Thomas Massie got his Hemp Amendment in and then voted against the bill, nice
Like a boss.

Spoa
06-20-2013, 02:19 PM
Brad Wenstrup ‏@RepBradWenstrup 6m
Ohio farmers deserve better, and Ohio taxpayers deserve better. We need a farm bill, but we need a responsible farm bill

Another good GOP representative who voted NO on this trillion dollar Farm bill! :)

devil21
06-20-2013, 03:47 PM
Media is already reporting it as if the the failed bill was designed to cut food stamps and Republicans opposed the cut.

Here's the first sentence in AP's piece.



The House rejected a five-year, half-trillion-dollar farm bill Thursday that would have cut $2 billion annually from food stamps and let states impose broad new work requirements on those who receive them.

http://news.yahoo.com/house-rejects-farm-bill-62-180541628.html

Strange reporting and political posturing over this bill.

Deborah K
06-20-2013, 03:51 PM
Thomas Massie got his Hemp Amendment in and then voted against the bill, nice

wut?

supermario21
06-20-2013, 04:07 PM
Here's a GOPer who thinks that we should do something, even if it is a disaster:

http://daines.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid=25&itemid=479

(Gives me no happiness to post this. He was one of the first candidates I supported in 2012.)


Sounds like a potential Senate candidate. He has spoken out against the internet tax so I give him credit where it's due.

matt0611
06-20-2013, 04:16 PM
WTF do we need a "farm" bill for? Do we need the federal gov to farm for us?

Origanalist
06-20-2013, 04:58 PM
WTF do we need a "farm" bill for? Do we need the federal gov to farm for us?

Yes. We need them to protect us, to feed us, to shelter us, to take care of our medical needs, but most of all we need them to protect us from being offended.

torchbearer
06-20-2013, 05:04 PM
WTF do we need a "farm" bill for? Do we need the federal gov to farm for us?

didn't you know that Trent Lott is a farmer? or at least, he owns a bunch of farms and is one of the biggest recipients of government subsidies.

Brian4Liberty
06-20-2013, 05:11 PM
I missed the discussion on this. What was the problem with the bill?

Welfare, pork and corporatism?

Brett85
06-20-2013, 05:16 PM
The only bad thing about this is that the hemp amendment is probably dead now.

MelissaWV
06-20-2013, 05:17 PM
wut?

Best of both worlds. The Farm Bill itself was terrible. If it passed, though, at the very least Massie's amendment would have been a tiny sneaky bright spot.

So he got his amendment in there... then voted against the bill itself.

torchbearer
06-20-2013, 05:19 PM
anyone hear of the term, insurance farmer?

pathtofreedom
06-22-2013, 08:02 PM
The department of Monsanto will get less funding yay!!!

rprprs
06-22-2013, 08:12 PM
Yes. We need them to protect us, to feed us, to shelter us, to take care of our medical needs, but most of all we need them to protect us from being offended.

Yes, that most of all.
+rep for stating it so well.

donnay
06-22-2013, 08:22 PM
No, it was packed with food stamps. Monsanto is just the buzz word everyone uses to hate farmers who feed them. 80%+ of the farm bill was food stamps. That's really the only significant place there were any increases that the Dems wanted.

:rolleyes: You better do some research before making silly little comments like that.


The House Farm Bill includes:
◦$16.1 billion in cuts to food assistance
◦Eliminates the Organic Certification Cost Share Program
◦Tens of billions in corporate welfare for the largest commodity crop growers, insurance companies, and agribusinesses

◦$6 billion in cuts to programs to protect natural resources, invest in beginning and disadvantaged farmers, revitalize local food economies, and promote health and food security
◦Unlimited subsidies to mega-farms that continue to drive small family farmers out of business
◦Incentives for growers to drop conservation practices, plow up marginal areas and intensify fencerow-to-fencerow cultivation of environmentally sensitive land
◦Nearly eight times more support for corn, soy, cotton, rice and wheat than for healthy fruits, nuts and vegetables
◦Guts the common-sense rules that protect water quality and wildlife from agricultural pesticides
◦Undermines progress made at the state level for animal rights
◦Ends fair competition and contract protections for livestock producers

Source:
http://www.organicconsumers.org/bytes/ob338.htm