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sailingaway
06-16-2013, 01:03 AM
http://redflagnews.com/headlines/calls-to-arrest-obama-under-ndaa-for-supporting-terrorists-in-syria

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Under the terms of the National Defense Authorization Act that he personally signed into law, President Barack Obama should immediately be arrested and indefinitely detained for providing support to Al-Qaeda terrorists in Syria.

The indefinite detention provision also applies to Americans who have given “substantial support” to terrorists or other “associated groups”.Section 1021(b)(2) of the NDAA law allows for the indefinite detention of U.S. citizens on “suspicion of providing substantial support” to groups engaged in hostilities against the U.S. such as al-Qaeda and the Taliban.

Although the administration has attempted to differentiate between FSA militants and Al-Qaeda terrorists in Syria, the two groups have become one and the same. Even if you make a distinction between the FSA and Jabhat al-Nusra terrorists in Syria, the FSA is still clearly an “associated group” under the terms of the NDAA.

By announcing that his administration will arm the Syrian rebels in anticipation of a no fly zone being imposed over areas of the country, President Barack Obama is giving direct support, aid and comfort to terrorists. Obama and his top administration officials clearly represent a national security threat to the interests of the United States and should immediately be arrested and detained under the NDAA.

The evidence that FSA militants in Syria are being led by Al-Qaeda terrorists and are carrying out terrorist atrocities is overwhelming.

- Jabhat al-Nusra is now the leading front line fighting force in Syria and is commanding the other rebel groups.

- In April, the head of Jabhat al-Nusra pledged allegiance to al-Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahiri.

- FSA rebels are defecting to Jabhat al-Nusra in droves.

- Jabhat al-Nusra killed U.S. troops in Iraq.

- Immediately after the State Department declared Jabhat al-Nusra a terrorist organization, 29 different FSA rebel outfits pledged allegiance to the Al-Qaeda group.

- FSA rebels have vowed to “fight the U.S.” once they finish with Bashar Al-Assad.

- FSA rebels have been filmed burning US and Israeli flags on more than one occasion.

- FSA rebels have been filmed singing songs that glorify Osama Bin Laden and the 9/11 attacks.

- One FSA group even calls its fighting unit the “Osama Bin Laden” brigade.

- Another video shows FSA rebels chanting, “We are all with Osama bin Laden!”

- FSA rebels have voiced their desire to see the Al-Qaeda flag fly over the White House once the rebels are victorious across the region.

- FSA rebels have been filmed cutting out people’s hearts on camera and eating them while chanting “Allahu Akbar”.

- FSA rebels have been responsible for innumerable beheadings over the course of the conflict, chanting “Allahu Akbar” as they decapitate their victims.

- FSA rebels have committed innumerable sectarian murders, including beheading a man for being a Christian and feeding him to the dogs.

- FSA rebels have also forced children to behead people and carry out other atrocities.

- FSA rebels have ransacked Christian churches.

- FSA rebels have massacred entire villages of Christians.

- Earlier this week, FSA rebels slaughtered a 14-year-old boy for supposedly insulting Mohammed.

- FSA rebels have murdered numerous journalists in targeted killings, including Maya Nasser and most recently Yara Abbas.

- FSA rebels have been pictured numerous times flying the black flag of Al-Qaeda and wearing uniforms with Al-Qaeda insignia.

- FSA rebels have been caught on camera preparing chemical weapons attacks.

- In March, UN human rights investigator Carla del Ponte said FSA rebels had used chemical weapons.

- FSA rebels have forced prisoners to become suicide bombers.

- According to eyewitnesses on the ground, at least half of the so-called “Syrian rebels” aren’t even Syrian and are foreign jihadists sent by the likes of Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

In announcing that his administration will provide arms to Al-Qaeda terrorists and associated groups like the FSA, Obama has violated his oath to protect and defend America against its enemies and should at the very least be subject to immediate impeachment proceedings, if not detained under the NDAA which clearly outlines the illegality of providing support to terrorist organizations.

enhanced_deficit
06-16-2013, 01:11 AM
He has been called gutless puppet by some so far, that will be no defence for him. Although still pretty unlikely, chances of him to make history by being first President to be impeached/go behind bars have gone up after revelations of recent months.

An off topic question, if this did happen against all odds, will he go to regular prison (with bubba type prisoners sharing quarters) or he will go to some special secluded prison (not Gitmo secluded but within US)?

sailingaway
06-16-2013, 01:16 AM
He has been called gutless puppet by some so far, that will be no defence for him. Although still pretty unlikely, chances of him to make history by being first President to be impeached/go behind bars have gone up after revelations of recent months.

An off topic question, if this did happen against all odds, will he go to regular prison (with bubba type prisoners sharing quarters) or he will go to some special secluded prison (not Gitmo secluded but within US)?

I'm sure it would be highest security within the US, with solitary for his own protection.

bolil
06-16-2013, 01:17 AM
Well, since laws are written for mundanes and Obama be a purrrrson of consequence he has nothing to worry about.

FrankRep
06-16-2013, 01:31 AM
The New American agrees.


President Obama OKs Shipment of Arms to Al-Qaeda in Syria (http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/15708-president-obama-oks-shipment-of-arms-to-al-qaeda-in-syria)



By authorizing the arming of Syrian rebels known to be led by members of al-Qaeda, is Obama violating the National Defense Authorization Act?

CPUd
06-16-2013, 01:37 AM
If Gerald Ford were still around he would say that presidents are immune to criminal prosecution.

sailingaway
06-16-2013, 01:38 AM
If Gerald Ford were still around he would say that presidents are immune to criminal prosecution.

Only once the next president pardoned him.

enhanced_deficit
06-16-2013, 01:59 AM
Could he be doing this under duress - under foreign/domestic carrot directive/stick threat etc?



Israeli, US defense chiefs powwow at the Pentagon (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=powwows%20hagel&source=newssearch&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCoQqQIoADAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.timesofisrael.com%2Fisraeli-us-defense-chiefs-powwow-at-the-pentagon%2F&ei=HHC9UZyNO8bw0gHM2YDYCw&usg=AFQjCNHIReAUpwwDkCWKQP8PtE_jdRpLbw&bvm=bv.47883778,d.dmQ)

By Ron Friedman (http://www.timesofisrael.com/writers/ron-friedman/) June 15, 2013, 4:35 am

Ya’alon’s arrival in Washington coincided with the Obama administration’s announcement, Friday, that it would be sending weapons to help Syrian rebels groups fighting against Assad’s forces.

Ahead of his visit, analysts predicted (http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-israeli-defense-chiefs-meeting-under-shadow-of-arms-transfers/) Ya’alon would do all in his power to convince his counterpart that Israel’s three red lines regarding strikes on Syrian soil are firm and that the US should do its utmost to convince Russia, Iran, and Syria that Israel is not bluffing.

Also on Friday the US House of Representatives passed a new defense authorization bill that would make it US policy to take “all necessary steps” to ensure Israel is able to “remove existential threats,” among them nuclear facilities in Iran.
“It is the policy of the United States to take all necessary steps to ensure that Israel possesses and maintains an independent capability to remove existential threats to its security and defend its vital national interests,” read the amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act passed Friday.

Elias Graves
06-16-2013, 06:52 AM
The constitution offers no recourse besides removal from office.

At the federal level, Article II of the United States Constitution (Section 4) states that "The President, Vice President, and all civil Officers of the United States shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors." The House of Representatives has the sole power of impeaching, while the United States Senate has the sole power to try all impeachments. The removal of impeached officials is automatic upon conviction in the Senate.

otherone
06-16-2013, 08:55 AM
Once he's removed from office he may be charged as a normal citizen.

CPUd
06-16-2013, 09:33 AM
Once he's removed from office he may be charged as a normal citizen.

It's technically possible but not likely. The first official act of Biden or any VP taking the presidency will be to pardon the former president, effective immunity for any possible crime that may have been committed while in office.

enhanced_deficit
06-16-2013, 09:53 AM
Although suspected serial violators of Constitution and serial high criminals should be tried and held accountable, the image of this guy sitting in a prison cell after such a conviction seems still bit uncomfortable. He has two little daughters.


It's technically possible but not likely. The first official act of Biden or any VP taking the presidency will be to pardon the former president, effective immunity for any possible crime that may have been committed while in office.

To be devil's advocate, Biden and Bohener will probably run with tails between their legs once they saw that they would be next on conservatives list if they kept on same track. "technically possible but not likely" is the reason that crooks think they can get away with a lot. Crimes don't stop if criminals see no fear the punishment.

torchbearer
06-16-2013, 09:59 AM
Although serial violators of Constitution and other high crimes should be held accountable, the image of this guy sitting in a prison cell seems till bit uncomfortable. He has two little daughters.

because of this man, there are many families that no longer have their sons or daughters.
he is a mass murderer. same as pol pot, stalin, lenin, mao.

tod evans
06-16-2013, 10:02 AM
Although serial violators of Constitution and other high crimes should be held accountable, the image of this guy sitting in a prison cell seems till bit uncomfortable. He has two little daughters.



Well gosh, I have a "little son"..........How many murders for free does that buy me?

torchbearer
06-16-2013, 10:05 AM
perhaps both Bush and Obama can share a prison cell, their only form of media will be a combined presidential library that showcases photo after photo of the dead people left in their wake.

A Son of Liberty
06-16-2013, 10:28 AM
Although suspected serial violators of Constitution and serial high criminals should be tried and held accountable, the image of this guy sitting in a prison cell after such a conviction seems still bit uncomfortable. He has two little daughters.

What the hell is this?!

69360
06-16-2013, 11:22 AM
This is getting outrageous. Spying on Americans to prevent terrorism, then giving weapons to terrorists.

HOLLYWOOD
06-16-2013, 11:55 AM
USUAL SUSPECTS on Propaganda Sunday corporate media shows: Marco Rubio, John McCain and CFR Richard Haas push for Drones attacks/Cruise missile targeting Syrian airports and energy infrastructures.

Here's updates from ANNA news within Syrian... the government is kicking the shit out of the US/UK/Qatari/Saudi funded terrorista. The professionally built tunnels running for miles shows this as a western fabricated war.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU3umWVzZug

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uw0JaVAevM