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Anti Federalist
06-15-2013, 10:58 PM
So says Leonard Pitts.



Leonard Pitts: Conning Americans to give up privacy

By Leonard Pitts Jr.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/06/11/3445890/leonard-pitts-conning-americans.html#storylink=cpy

It will not be with guns.

If ever tyranny overtakes this land of the sometimes free and home of the intermittently brave, it probably won’t, contrary to the fever dreams of gun rights extremists, involve jack-booted government thugs rappelling down from black helicopters. Rather, it will involve changes to words on paper many have forgotten or never knew, changes that chip away until they strip away, precious American freedoms.

It will involve a trade of sorts, an inducement to give up the reality of freedom for the illusion of security. Indeed, the bargain has already been struck.

That is the take-away from the latest controversy to embroil the Obama administration. Yes, it is troubling to learn the National Security Agency has been running a secret program that reputedly gives it access to Americans’ web activity — emails, chats, pictures, video uploads — on such Internet behemoths as Google, Facebook and Apple. Yes, it is troubling to hear that “George W.” Obama has routinely renewed a Bush-era program allowing the feds to more easily graze the “metadata” of phone activity (time and date, numbers dialed, etc.) of millions of Verizon customers..

But what is most troubling is that Americans are not particularly troubled by any of it. According to a new poll by the Pew Research Center and the Washington Post, most of us — 56 percent — are OK with the monitoring of metadata, a process then-Sen. Joe Biden called “very, very intrusive” back in 2006.

According to the same poll, nearly half — 45 percent — also approve allowing the government to track email content and other online activity. And 62 percent feel it is more important to investigate terrorist threats than to safeguard the right to privacy. That approval is consistent across party lines.

We are at war against terror, the thinking goes, so certain liberties must be sacrificed. It’s the same thing people said when similar issues arose under the Bush regime. It doesn’t seem to matter to them that the “war” is open-ended and mostly metaphorical, meaning that we can anticipate no formal surrender point at which our rights will be restored.

For what it’s worth, we’ve seen similar ambivalence toward the excess of another open ended metaphorical conflict, the War on Drugs. It has also played havoc with basic civil rights, the courts essentially giving police free rein to stop whomever whenever without needing a warrant or a reason.

And never mind that this violates those words on paper many of us have forgotten or never knew — the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution. Never mind that it was designed specifically to bar government from peeking through the blinds or snatching you up on a whim. Never mind that it’s a bulwark against the unfettered power of the state.

People think tyranny will be imposed at the point of a gun. Paranoids look up in search of black helicopters. Meanwhile, the architecture of totalitarianism is put into place all around them, surveillance apparatus so intrusive as to stagger the imagination of Orwell himself.

The point is not that one has nothing to hide. The point is that whatever you have is none of the government’s business absent probable cause and a warrant. The point is that one should never repose unfettered power with the state.

We should know this, yet we fall for the same seductive con every time: We are afraid, but the state says it can make us safe. And all it will take is the surrender of a few small freedoms.

(Speak for yourself. - AF)

It makes you want to holler in frustration, especially since the promise is so false. Yes, the state can interdict a given terrorist plot, but even if it took every last freedom we have, it could not guarantee complete security. That is a plain truth with which we must make peace.

We will never be “safe.” But we just might, if we have the courage, be free.

Anti Federalist
06-15-2013, 11:01 PM
All and all, not a bad piece, but in his partisan hatred of gun rights, he is blinded to a clear and unassailable truth.

Of COURSE compliance will be "achieved" at gunpoint.

http://www.trunews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Boston-Swat.jpg

Carson
06-15-2013, 11:03 PM
We lost the country and not one tank rolled into the Capitol.

jclay2
06-15-2013, 11:05 PM
I agree, but believe that the barrel of a gun will be waiting once the nwo planners have a control grid sufficient to their liking to implement complete control.

bolil
06-15-2013, 11:06 PM
All and all, not a bad piece, but in his partisan hatred of gun rights, he is blinded to a clear and unassailable truth.

Of COURSE compliance will be "achieved" at gunpoint.

http://www.trunews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Boston-Swat.jpg


But those guns are different, the fingers that pull those triggers are the fingers of heroes.

bolil
06-15-2013, 11:07 PM
I agree, but believe that the barrel of a gun will be waiting once the nwo planners have a control grid sufficient to their liking to implement complete control.

Moreso it rests on compliance of military personnel. Privates, PFCS, Corporals, and Sergeants. Without that group the only thing the NWO has to pound is sand.

Anti Federalist
06-15-2013, 11:08 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/p480x480/935336_10151565738683459_661949445_n.jpg

Anti Federalist
06-15-2013, 11:10 PM
Moreso it rests on compliance of military personnel. Privates, PFCS, Corporals, and Sergeants. Without that group the only thing the NWO has to pound is sand.

They do not need the Army anymore.

They have a standing army of internal oppression, 1.2 million men strong.

They are called "police".

jclay2
06-15-2013, 11:10 PM
Those numbers seem way to conservative, given that bee stings are x times more likely to kill you than a terrorist.

bolil
06-15-2013, 11:12 PM
They do not need the Army anymore.

They have a standing army of internal oppression, 1.2 million men strong.

They are called "police".

The cops are a buffer, they need the military and I don't think they will ever have the marines.

Of course, when the cops are fully militarized, which will be soon, my font of wisdom becomes irrelevant.

Anti Federalist
06-15-2013, 11:12 PM
Those numbers seem way to conservative, given that bee stings are x times more likely to kill you than a terrorist.

They are old figures.

IIRC cops have shot and killed about a 1000 mundanes so far, just this year.

bolil
06-15-2013, 11:15 PM
And they are so well armed, perhaps I am wrong.

Well, can't blame a guy for hoping. I live in chicago so I already live it.

Anti Federalist
06-15-2013, 11:18 PM
The cops are a buffer, they need the military and I don't think they will ever have the marines.

Of course, when the cops are fully militarized, which will be soon, my font of wisdom becomes irrelevant.

I think they are militarized enough.

They may call on Pentagon support for air cover or artillery.

jclay2
06-15-2013, 11:18 PM
And they are so well armed, perhaps I am wrong.

Well, can't blame a guy for hoping. I live in chicago so I already live it.

Nice to know there are other rpforums people in the slave state that is chicago!

bolil
06-15-2013, 11:23 PM
Nice to know there are other rpforums people in the slave state that is chicago!

If you can call it living, I do it there. I call it wasting but no one gets it when I say, "I waste in chi"

I do love driving on LSD.

Brian4Liberty
06-15-2013, 11:28 PM
Nazi Germany, Stalin's Russia, today's China. It's almost perfected.

Anti Federalist
06-15-2013, 11:29 PM
http://i.imgur.com/5ujmIR4.jpg

bolil
06-15-2013, 11:30 PM
http://i.imgur.com/5ujmIR4.jpg

How is this not plastered on every newspaper worth its print? Seriously.

Origanalist
06-15-2013, 11:34 PM
How is this not plastered on every newspaper worth its print? Seriously.

Bacause they are good for fishwrap and buttwipe in a pinch and nothing else.

Anti Federalist
06-15-2013, 11:34 PM
How is this not plastered on every newspaper worth its print? Seriously.

How?

Government owned and controlled propaganda organs are propagandizing.

See how many negative press articles were "allowed" by the guy on the right...

bolil
06-15-2013, 11:37 PM
I suppose I am confusing RPF with Puffho. My apologies. Fuck the guy on the left, for being the guy on the right reborne.

Also good for insulation.

ClydeCoulter
06-15-2013, 11:39 PM
How is this not plastered on every newspaper worth its print? Seriously.

It's on FB, ...now...

Origanalist
06-15-2013, 11:39 PM
I suppose I am confusing RPF with Puffho. My apologies. Fuck the guy on the left, for being the guy on the right reborne.

Also good for insulation.

It works but it's a fire hazard. Once in a while I still run across an old house that has it in the walls though.

ClydeCoulter
06-15-2013, 11:41 PM
@bolil,
Why are you still in Chi?

bolil
06-15-2013, 11:43 PM
@bolil,
Why are you still in Chi?

If the SHTF I would be closer to those I feel duty bound to protect. Whoa, a Libertarian who believes in duty, ce nest possible jamais!

jclay2
06-15-2013, 11:49 PM
If the SHTF I would be closer to those I feel duty bound to protect. Whoa, a Libertarian who believes in duty, ce nest possible jamais!

You should at a minimum get out of Cook county.

bolil
06-15-2013, 11:51 PM
You should at a minimum get out of Cook county.

They won't go, I can't go. I am no martyr LOL, just doing as I see fit.

ClydeCoulter
06-16-2013, 01:00 AM
They won't go, I can't go. I am no martyr LOL, just doing as I see fit.

I understand...:)
Peace, brother, peace.

JK/SEA
06-16-2013, 07:54 AM
mmm boy,,,can't wait for the day when i feel so secure in my home that i can remove all the locks on my doors, get rid of my 'equalizers', won't need a good dog to alert me of intruders, and unicorns frolick in my backyard...ahhh...can't wait for the day..

heavenlyboy34
06-16-2013, 09:33 AM
mmm boy,,,can't wait for the day when i feel so secure in my home that i can remove all the locks on my doors, get rid of my 'equalizers', won't need a good dog to alert me of intruders, and unicorns frolick in my backyard...ahhh...can't wait for the day..
On that day, I will fart rainbows. And all dogs and pets will need not fear being shot in a no knock raid. :D

Pericles
06-16-2013, 09:38 AM
If? It is spreading as I type.

tod evans
06-16-2013, 09:41 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cMXcgEwZw5E/T2MZ_WI0NRI/AAAAAAAACnk/ogqM2WvJlPc/s1600/vultures-patience-my-ass.jpg