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sailingaway
06-15-2013, 07:35 PM
(Reuters) - Aetna Inc said on Saturday it has notified California's insurance regulator that it plans to stop selling health policies to individual consumers in the state at the end of 2013.

The company will continue to offer health insurance to employers and Medicare beneficiaries in California, as well as dental and life-insurance products, Aetna spokeswoman Anjie Coplin told Reuters. But people with individual health coverage with Aetna will have to find alternative coverage by year's end.
Aetna had informed California Insurance Commissioner Dave Jones of its decision to exit the market, Coplin said, but it was still in the process of notifying members and brokers.

The move comes as California, the country's most populous state, prepares for the fall launch of a state health exchange authorized by President Barack Obama's Affordable Care Act.

The exchange establishes new standards for health insurance products sold to individuals in the state, whether or not they are offered through the exchange.

http://news.yahoo.com/aetna-exit-californias-individual-insurance-market-184916425.html

AuH20
06-15-2013, 11:22 PM
And so it begins. 2014 is going to be fun to watch when this sucker goes live.

http://news.yahoo.com/aetna-exit-californias-individual-insurance-market-184916425.html

jclay2
06-15-2013, 11:24 PM
And so it begins. 2014 is going to be fun to watch when this sucker goes live.

http://news.yahoo.com/aetna-exit-californias-individual-insurance-market-184916425.html

I still don't know how they slammed that legislation down our throats. They had negative to positive support ratios of 10:1 when that stupid legislation was getting passed. uggh.

AuH20
06-15-2013, 11:26 PM
I still don't know how they slammed that legislation down our throats. They had negative to positive support ratios of 10:1 when that stupid legislation was getting passed. uggh.

The ole Christmas Eve trick. BTW Reid is attempting to ram the Immigration bill through right before July 4th.

Anti Federalist
06-15-2013, 11:27 PM
Fucking shame.

I had Aetna insurance in Maine for a while, paid for out of pocket.

Was one of the best damn health plans ever.

Until the assholes in Disgusta decided that insurance companies must pay for whole slew of new items, if they were going to do business in the state.

They pulled out, rather than comply.

Within three years there were only three companies in Maine you could get insurance through, one of which was some state run disaster.

I'm not sure what the situation is now, this was over ten years ago.

AuH20
06-15-2013, 11:30 PM
Fucking shame.

I had Aetna insurance in Maine for a while, paid for out of pocket.

Was one of the best damn health plans ever.

Until the assholes in Disgusta decided that insurance companies must pay for whole slew of new items, if they were going to do business in the state.

They pulled out, rather than comply.

Within three years there were only three companies in Maine you could get insurance through, one of which was some state run disaster.

I'm not sure what the situation is now, this was over ten years ago.

Acupuncture, eyelifts, pedicures. These liberal fucktards are going to get what's coming to them X1000 with this monstrousity.

VanBummel
06-15-2013, 11:35 PM
All according to plan.

When "corporate greed" drives insurance companies to withdraw service rather than comply with new regulations the only way to guarantee your "right to affordable healthcare" will be with a "common sense" government insurance program to "provide" everything you need, "for free."

AuH20
06-15-2013, 11:38 PM
All according to plan.

When "corporate greed" drives insurance companies to withdraw service rather than comply with new regulations the only way to guarantee your "right to affordable healthcare" will be with a "common sense" government insurance program to "provide" everything you need, "for free."

One problem. They need major taxpayer resources to implement and run a single payer system, unless price controls are implemented, which would in turn destroy the medical industry permanently. They're done anyway you look at it.

Anti Federalist
06-15-2013, 11:39 PM
Acupuncture, eyelifts, pedicures. These liberal fucktards are going to get what's coming to them X1000 with this monstrousity.

That's exactly what it was, a whole slew of shit just like that.

And you could not, legally, sell a policy in Maine without having those items, and whole lot more, covered.

But they don't care.

Never ever forget, this whole monstrosity is designed to fail, so that after struggling with its stupidity for a few years, Boobus will get on the "single payer government healthcare" bandwagon.

Anti Federalist
06-15-2013, 11:39 PM
All according to plan.

When "corporate greed" drives insurance companies to withdraw service rather than comply with new regulations the only way to guarantee your "right to affordable healthcare" will be with a "common sense" government insurance program to "provide" everything you need, "for free."

Yup.

Anti Federalist
06-15-2013, 11:41 PM
One problem. They need major taxpayer resources to implement and run a single payer system, unless price controls are implemented, which would in turn destroy the medical industry permanently. They're done anyway you look at it.

Endgame.

Puts that, "forced population reduction conspiracy theory" in a whole new light.

Make no mistake, the ruling class will get all of the top notch medical care it needs, regardless.

AuH20
06-15-2013, 11:41 PM
Why do you think Baucus hightailed out of the Senate so fast??????? He wants to hide somewhere...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/23/dem-sen-max-baucus-wont-seek-reelection-in-2014/

AuH20
06-15-2013, 11:44 PM
Endgame.

Puts that, "forced population reduction conspiracy theory" in a whole new light.

Make no mistake, the ruling class will get all of the top notch medical care it needs, regardless.

Offshore medical facilities. You watch.

Anti Federalist
06-15-2013, 11:49 PM
Offshore medical faculties. You watch.

Combined with "elite only" local facilities.

Yup, fuck you Mundane.

Occam's Banana
06-16-2013, 03:23 AM
Yet another failure of the free market. The government really needs to step up and do something about this. It's the only way ...

Warlord
06-16-2013, 03:26 AM
This is nothing. The new immigrants are going to be demanding (and voting for) 'free' dental and full health coverage. America is on the road to a complete socialized system

Debbie Downer
06-16-2013, 04:05 AM
Combined with "elite only" local facilities.

Yup, fuck you Mundane.

Good thing I'm an elite. Fuck you mundanes.

LibForestPaul
06-16-2013, 07:02 AM
One problem. They need major taxpayer resources to implement and run a single payer system, unless price controls are implemented, which would in turn destroy the medical industry permanently. They're done anyway you look at it.

What will become of the massive student loan debts taken on by physician specialists who are no longer being paid under Government Rationed Healthfraud

wgadget
06-16-2013, 07:18 AM
Trouble in Fresno.

http://m.fresnobee.com/fresno/db_319405/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=qIg9AdwV

sluggo
06-16-2013, 07:24 AM
Next step: make it illegal for insurance providers to choose which states they do business in.

moostraks
06-16-2013, 07:29 AM
Yet another failure of the free market. The government really needs to step up and do something about this. It's the only way ...
Sarcasm tag! Sarcasm tag!!!! :p The enemies among us will think you are one of them...

unknown
06-16-2013, 08:10 AM
I still don't know how they slammed that legislation down our throats. They had negative to positive support ratios of 10:1 when that stupid legislation was getting passed. uggh.

Its pretty simple. Mr. Magic Bullet theory, once again serving his satanic masters, actually switched Parties so he could cast the deciding vote.

emazur
06-16-2013, 10:57 AM
Yet another failure of the free market. The government really needs to step up and do something about this. It's the only way ...

Actually I think that's how this will be viewed. Let's say someone had Aetna insurance and later developed some health issues that were covered. Since Aetna won't sell to them any more they have a "preexisting condition" red flag that every other insurance provider will look out for and either charge a huge premium or simply refuse to cover the patient (I guess the refusal thing goes out the window once Obamacare kicks in). People will say the free market has failed and government needs to do something or has already done the right thing w/ Obamacare. How do you counter? Sure, you can say it's the government's fault that Aetna is pulling out (you probably won't convince many) but what about situations where an insurance provider shutters their business for legitimate market reasons (such as too much competition and feeling the need to exit the field b/c of slim or no profit)?

lx43
06-16-2013, 11:05 AM
Yet another failure of the free market. The government really needs to step up and do something about this. It's the only way ...

The politicians know exactly what they are doing, they create a problem, try to solve it, and create an even worse problem; then when it fails its the free markets fault.

oyarde
06-16-2013, 11:08 AM
Fucking shame.

I had Aetna insurance in Maine for a while, paid for out of pocket.

Was one of the best damn health plans ever.

Until the assholes in Disgusta decided that insurance companies must pay for whole slew of new items, if they were going to do business in the state.

They pulled out, rather than comply.

Within three years there were only three companies in Maine you could get insurance through, one of which was some state run disaster.

I'm not sure what the situation is now, this was over ten years ago.

Last time I checked , over 100 in the US, but only around a dozen available in California.....

oyarde
06-16-2013, 11:11 AM
I can buy life ins from a Co in any state , auto etc . Health Ins Co,'s should be allowed to offer the policies they have to everyone too .

Carson
06-16-2013, 12:00 PM
I still don't know how they slammed that legislation down our throats. They had negative to positive support ratios of 10:1 when that stupid legislation was getting passed. uggh.


They could afford to push and push and push. They are using our money against us.

No matter how much hard earned money we can come up with to build our world the way we want, others have the ability to fire up the fake money presses and print up what ever amount it takes to dictate their will.

http://photos.imageevent.com/stokeybob/followthemoney/Supersingle640x537.jpg


When the counterfeiters counterfeit, it sucks the life out of everything. EVERYTHING!

Occam's Banana
06-16-2013, 01:21 PM
Sarcasm tag! Sarcasm tag!!!! :p The enemies among us will think you are one of them...

I'm trying to lure them in and gain their confidence ... ;):)

Philhelm
06-16-2013, 01:45 PM
Never ever forget, this whole monstrosity is designed to fail, so that after struggling with its stupidity for a few years, Boobus will get on the "single payer government healthcare" bandwagon.

This, of course, is the ultimate goal.