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AuH20
06-15-2013, 03:47 PM
If he keeps writing like this, he's going to end up like the late Joseph Sobran.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/351021/freedom-unfolding-revolution-jonah-goldberg


It’s a little bizarre how the Left has always conflated statism with modernity and progress. The idea that rulers — be they chieftains, kings, priests, politburos, or wonkish bureaucrats — are enlightened or smart enough to tell others how to live is older than the written word. And the idea that someone stronger, with better weapons, has the right to take what is yours predates man’s discovery of fire by millennia. And yet, we’re always told that the latest rationalization for increased state power is the “wave of the future.”

That phrase, “the wave of the future,” became famous thanks to a 1940 essay by Anne Morrow Lindbergh. She argued that the time of liberal democratic capitalism was drawing to a close and the smart money was on statism of one flavor or another — fascism, Communism, socialism, etc. What was lost on her, and millions of others, was that this wasn’t progress toward the new, but regression to the past. These “waves of the future” were simply gussied-up tribalisms, anachronisms made gaudy with the trappings of modernity, like a gibbon in a spacesuit.

The only truly new political idea in the last couple thousand years is this libertarian idea, broadly understood. The revolution wrought by John Locke, Edmund Burke, Adam Smith, and the Founding Fathers is the only real revolution going. And it’s still unfolding.

Indeed, what’s remarkable about all of the states Lind identifies as proof that libertarianism doesn’t work is that they are in fact proof that it does. What made the American experiment new were its libertarian innovations, broadly speaking. Moreover, those innovations made us prosper. Even Sweden — the liberal Best in Show — owes its successes to its libertarian concessions.

I’m actually not a full-blown libertarian myself, but it’s an ideal I’d like America to move closer to, not further away from as we’ve been doing of late — bizarrely in the name of “progress,” of all things.

Elias Graves
06-15-2013, 03:53 PM
Every generation must learn of Freedom first hand. So far, Americans have had a pretty good 200 year run of defeating authoritarianism. The question is, will our generation rise to the challenge or will we be the ones tagged by history as the Americans who couldn't defend Liberty?

FrankRep
06-15-2013, 04:03 PM
That's odd.

Jonah Goldberg thinks Neoconservatives are the real Conservatives.



How Neo Are The Neocons? (http://townhall.com/columnists/jonahgoldberg/2008/04/23/how_neo_are_the_neocons/page/full/)
Jonah Goldberg | April 23, 2008

Ron Paul's naive promise of real change (http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-goldberg-ronpaul-20111220,0,4923395.column)
Jonah Goldberg | December 20, 2011

Kill This Word: Poor, abused, unrecognizable, meaningless ‘neocon’ (http://www.gees.org/documentos/Documen-02140.pdf)
Jonah Goldberg | March 20, 2007

enhanced_deficit
06-15-2013, 04:06 PM
I had heard that he was a skunkbag but maybe was misinformed.

Jonah Goldberg: Iraq Was a Worthy Mistake - latimes.com (http://www.latimes.com/news/la-oe-goldberg19oct19,0,6161432.column)

www.latimes.com/news/la-oe-goldberg19oct19,0,6161432.column‎
Oct 19, 2006 – THERE'S A STRICT taboo in the column-writing business against recycling ideas. So let me start with something fresh.
The failure to find weapons of mass destruction is a side issue. The WMD fiasco was a global intelligence failure, but calling Saddam Hussein's bluff after 9/11 was the right thing to do. Washington's more important intelligence failure lay in underestimating what would be required to rebuild and restore post-Hussein Iraq.

heavenlyboy34
06-15-2013, 04:07 PM
Every generation must learn of Freedom first hand. So far, Americans have had a pretty good 200 year run of defeating authoritarianism. The question is, will our generation rise to the challenge or will we be the ones tagged by history as the Americans who couldn't defend Liberty?
lolz ;) :D

PSYOP
06-15-2013, 04:22 PM
If he keeps writing like this, he's going to end up like the late Joseph Sobran.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/351021/freedom-unfolding-revolution-jonah-goldberg

What are you talking about -- the guy died of liver failure. =/

FrankRep
06-15-2013, 04:29 PM
What are you talking about -- the guy died of liver failure. =/

He means this, I believe.


Joseph Sobran, RIP (http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/66445.html)

Lew Rockwell

The great American writer Joe Sobran died today in Arlington, Virginia, from complications of diabetes. He was just 64. There is much more to say about this extraordinary man, but for now I just want to mention his sacrificing his lucrative career at National Review on the altar of truth. When Joe opposed the first US war on Iraq, ex-CIA agent Bill Buckley first ordered him to submit to the warfare state, and when he wouldn't, fired him, even calling Joe an anti-Semite. But unlike Buckley and the other neocons who attacked him, Joe was no hater. He simply loved the Prince of Peace.

cajuncocoa
06-15-2013, 04:44 PM
Some neocons will even sellout their own warmongering ways to oppose Obama.

A Son of Liberty
06-15-2013, 04:47 PM
Every generation must learn of Freedom first hand. So far, Americans have had a pretty good 200 year run of defeating authoritarianism. The question is, will our generation rise to the challenge or will we be the ones tagged by history as the Americans who couldn't defend Liberty?

No idea what you're talking about.