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phill4paul
06-14-2013, 08:25 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-cusack/snowden-principle_b_3441237.html


At the heart of Edward Snowden's decision to expose the NSA's massive phone and Internet spying programs was a fundamental belief in the people's right-to-know. "My sole motive is to inform the public as to that which is done in their name and that which is done against them," he said in an interview with the Guardian.

From the State's point of view, he's committed a crime. From his point of view, and the view of many others, he has sacrificed for the greater good because he knows people have the right to know what the government is doing in their name. And legal, or not, he saw what the government was doing as a crime against the people and our rights.

For the sake of argument -- This should be called The Snowden Principle.

When The Snowden Principle is invoked and revelations of this magnitude are revealed; it is always met with predictable establishment blowback from the red and blue elites of state power. Those in charge are prone to hysteria and engage in character assassination, as are many in the establishment press that have been co-opted by government access . When The Snowden Principle is evoked the fix is always in and instead of looking at the wrongdoing exposed, they parrot the government position no matter what the facts

The Snowden Principle just cannot be tolerated...

Even mental illness is pondered as a possible reason that these pariahs would insist on the public's right to know at the highest personal costs to their lives and the destruction of their good names. The public's right to know---This is the treason. The utter corruption, the crime.

But as law professor Jonathan Turley reminds us, a lie told by everyone is not the truth. "The Republican and Democratic parties have achieved a bipartisan purpose in uniting against the public's need to know about massive surveillance programs and the need to redefine privacy in a more surveillance friendly image," he wrote recently.

We can watch as The Snowden Principle is predictably followed in the reaction from many of the fourth estate - who serve at the pleasure of the king.

Mika Brzezinski on MSNBC suggests that Glenn Greenwald's coverage was "misleading" and said he was too "close to the story." Snowden was no whistleblower, and Glenn was no journalist she suggests.

Jeffrey Toobin, at the New Yorker, calls Snowden "a grandiose narcissist who deserves to be in prison."

Another journalist, Willard Foxton, asserted that Glenn Greenwald amounted to the leader of a "creepy cult."

David Brooks of the New York Times accuses Snowden- not the Gov--of betraying everything from the Constitution to all American privacy ...

Michael Grunwald of TIME seems to suggest that that if you are against the NSA spying program you want to make America less safe.

Then there's Richard Cohen at the Washington Post, who as Gawker points out, almost seems to be arguing that a journalist's job is to keep government secrets not actually report on them.

The Snowden Principle makes for some tortured logic.

The government's reaction has been even worse. Senators have called Snowden a "traitor," the authorities claim they're going to treat his case as espionage. Rep. Peter King outrageously called for the prosecution of Glenn Greenwald for exercising his basic First Amendment rights. Attacks like this are precisely the reason I joined the Freedom of the Press Foundation board (where Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras also serve as board members)

As Chris Hedges rightly pointed out, this cuts to the heart of one of the most important questions in a democracy: will we have an independent free press that reports on government crimes and serves the public's right to know?

It cannot be criminal to report a crime or an abuse of power. Freedom of the Press Foundation co-founder Daniel Ellsberg argues that Snowden's leaks could be a tipping point in America. This week he wrote "there has not been in American history a more important leak than Edward Snowden's release of NSA material," including his own leak of the Pentagon Papers.

The Snowden Principle, and that fire that inspired him to take unimaginable risks, is fundamentally about fostering an informed and engaged public. The Constitution embraces that idea. Mr. Snowden says his motivation was to expose crimes -spark a debate, and let the public know of secret policies he could not in good conscience ignore - whether you agree with his tactics or not, that debate has begun. Now, we are faced with a choice, we can embrace the debate or we can try to shut the debate down and maintain the status quo.

If these policies are just, then debate them in sunlight. If we believe the debate for transparency is worth having we need to demand it. Snowden said it well, "You can't wait around for someone else to act."

Within hours of the NSA's leaks, a massive coalition of groups came together to plan an international campaign to oppose and fix the NSA spying regime. You can join them here - I already did. The groups span across the political spectrum, from Dick Armey's FreedomWorks to the Progressive Change Campaign Committee and longtime civil rights groups like ACLU, Electronic Frontier Foundation and Free Press.

As more people find out about these abuses, the outrage mounts and the debate expands. Many in the mainstream media have shown that the public can't count on them to stand up to internal pressure when The Snowden Principle is evoked to serve the national interest, and protect our core fundamental rights.

The questions The Snowden Principle raises when evoked will not go away....How long do they expect rational people to accept using the word "terror" to justify and excuse ever expanding executive and state power ? Why are so many in our government and press and intellectual class so afraid of an informed public? Why are they so afraid of a Free Press and the people's right to know?

It's the government's obligation to keep us safe while protecting our constitution . To suggest it's one or the other is simply wrong.

Professor Turley issues us a dire warning:

"In his press conference, Obama repeated the siren call of all authoritarian figures throughout history: while these powers are great, our motives are benign. So there you have it. The government is promising to better protect you if you just surrender this last measure of privacy. Perhaps it is time. After all, it was Benjamin Franklin who warned that "those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

See what's happened already in the short time only because the PRISM program was made public, here.

PaulConventionWV
06-14-2013, 09:14 PM
John Cusack, the actor? You mean he's not a liberal Hollywood drone?

ClydeCoulter
06-14-2013, 09:29 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-cusack/snowden-principle_b_3441237.html

Good article, new meme, the "Snowden Principle".

Carson
06-14-2013, 09:36 PM
John Cusack sounds a whole lot like one of us.

and speaking out in his industry. He's got Guts! and integrity (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/integrity).

kathy88
06-14-2013, 09:50 PM
I love Cusack. Def one of us. Grosse Pointe Blank might just get another Netflix view from me.

HOLLYWOOD
06-14-2013, 10:16 PM
All those Media clowns are propagandizing what their elitist bosses, force them to say. Corporate Main Stream Media is the 4th Branch of the Federal Government.This revelation by Snowden not only revealed the tyrannical government and their illegal policies, they also revealed that corporate media is in bed with government to the point, so balatantly obvious, you can see right through their; lies, misdirections, marginalization, & state backed propaganda.This should be the alert to NEVER trust anything from Fascist Corporate Media.

Highly compensated media puppets... let's see what they say about this below

The Tonight Show With Jay Leno

Shia Labeouf: One-In-Five Phone Calls Are Recorded (2008-09-16)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ux1hpLvqMw

V3n
06-14-2013, 10:19 PM
I've been following him on twitter. He's been saying a lot of very good, very exciting things. I get the impression he's personal friends with Glenn Greenwald. If you're on twitter I recommend him as one to follow.

better-dead-than-fed
06-14-2013, 11:07 PM
To @johncusack (https://twitter.com/johncusack):

How do you reconcile the "people's right to know" with Glenn Greenwald's coverup of 99.75% of the Snowden documents? Why no "sunlight" for 99.75% of the documents Snowden gave to Greenwald? Why is Greenwald "so afraid of an informed public"?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fnUvX98Fitn8z5bftjNn3SQtjKjgsjBh361RDv2I-HE/pub

mad cow
06-14-2013, 11:25 PM
To @johncusack (https://twitter.com/johncusack):

How do you reconcile the "people's right to know" with Glenn Greenwald's coverup of 99.75% of the Snowden documents? Why no "sunlight" for 99.75% of the documents Snowden gave to Greenwald? Why is Greenwald "so afraid of an informed public"?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fnUvX98Fitn8z5bftjNn3SQtjKjgsjBh361RDv2I-HE/pub

So Snowden is the enemy here?
Greenwald is the enemy?
Cusack is the enemy?

Circular firing squad.

better-dead-than-fed
06-14-2013, 11:37 PM
I get the impression he's personal friends with Glenn Greenwald.

They are business partners: https://pressfreedomfoundation.org/about/staff

trey4sports
06-14-2013, 11:39 PM
im pretty sure cusack is an actual liberal. Like a dennis-Kucinich-old-school-liberal.

anaconda
06-14-2013, 11:43 PM
I love Cusack. Def one of us. Grosse Pointe Blank might just get another Netflix view from me.

Cusack is one of those actors I'll watch in anything. Like I would with Jeff Bridges.

jkr
06-14-2013, 11:54 PM
YOU!

your one of US!

V3n
06-15-2013, 12:01 AM
They are business partners: https://pressfreedomfoundation.org/about/staff

That's quite a business!! Good find!

bolil
06-15-2013, 12:21 AM
I am surprised at his language: "state power" "red and blue elites" "establishment"
A decent read over all. I'd like to hear Russel Brand's take on it, i believe HE is one of us.

BenIsForRon
06-15-2013, 01:23 AM
Worth mentioning that he referenced an article by Jonathan Turley multiple times.

http://jonathanturley.org/2013/06/12/an-inconvenient-truth-members-of-congress-go-silent-over-prior-false-testimony-on-surveillance/

I give credit to Jonathan Turley for turning me into a civil libertarian before I even heard of Ron Paul.

moostraks
06-15-2013, 07:35 AM
Nice read. For folks that only listen when someone "pretty" speaks this will help break through some barriers.

donnay
06-15-2013, 08:15 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjZAA5y6xqg

speciallyblend
06-15-2013, 08:53 AM
To @johncusack (https://twitter.com/johncusack):

How do you reconcile the "people's right to know" with Glenn Greenwald's coverup of 99.75% of the Snowden documents? Why no "sunlight" for 99.75% of the documents Snowden gave to Greenwald? Why is Greenwald "so afraid of an informed public"?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fnUvX98Fitn8z5bftjNn3SQtjKjgsjBh361RDv2I-HE/pub

you already know but you refuse to accept it. let us try, classified info/evidence and they are trying to expose the corrupt us gov and not get killed by them! in simple terms COMMON SENSE until the exposed are exposed. You could volunteer to be a Snowden and expose something yourself and put yourself on the line if you like!

i cannot believe you would even ask that ? If you were playing poker against me why don't you show your whole hand to me? oo yeah common sense!

better-dead-than-fed
06-15-2013, 09:16 AM
you already know but you refuse to accept it. let us try, classified info/evidence and they are trying to expose the corrupt us gov and not get killed by them! in simple terms COMMON SENSE until the exposed are exposed. You could volunteer to be a Snowden and expose something yourself and put yourself on the line if you like!

i cannot believe you would even ask that ? If you were playing poker against me why don't you show your whole hand to me? oo yeah common sense!

You think the Washington Post reporter was just bluffing here? https://twitter.com/bartongellman/status/343917249289150464

trey4sports
05-18-2020, 06:57 PM
Interestingly enough - Cusack actually tweeted this thread in jun 2017... lol - unfortunately by the looks of his twitter he is a raging socialist.

https://twitter.com/johncusack/status/880911488461963265

Anti Globalist
05-19-2020, 06:08 PM
Interestingly enough - Cusack actually tweeted this thread in jun 2017... lol - unfortunately by the looks of his twitter he is a raging socialist.

https://twitter.com/johncusack/status/880911488461963265
Not sure if its a good thing that Hollywood knows about this site.