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Occam's Banana
06-12-2013, 03:46 AM
They're at it again!

First, Michael Lind. (see here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?416664-%91The-Question-Libertarians-Just-Can%92t-Answer%92-Tom-Woods-replies-to-Salon )

Now E.J. Dionne ...


‘The Question Libertarians Can’t Answer,’ Part II

Last week, Michael Lind (http://www.salon.com/2013/06/04/the_question_libertarians_just_cant_answer/) posed what he thought was a devastating question for libertarians: if your system is so good, why aren’t there any libertarian countries?

This was more a funny question than a difficult one, since while Lind really seems to have thought he’d gotten us good, the question is one libertarians themselves address constantly. By rephrasing his question, I teased out the answer (http://www.tomwoods.com/blog/the-question-libertarians-just-cant-answer/):

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Now we have E.J. Dionne (http://www.philly.com/philly/opinion/20130611_E__J__Dionne__The_libertarian_problem.htm l), who’s come along to remind everyone why we need our overlords. He thinks Lind’s question is a super one, too. I will have plenty to say if I confine myself to this one Dionne paragraph:


We had something close to a small-government libertarian utopia in the late 19th century, and we decided it didn’t work. We realized that many would never be able to save enough for retirement and, later, that most of them would be unable to afford health insurance in old age. Smaller government meant that too many people were poor and that monopolies were formed too easily. And when the Depression engulfed us, government was helpless, largely handcuffed by this antigovernment ideology until Franklin Roosevelt came along.

Every aspect of this statement is false.


More at link: http://www.libertyclassroom.com/the-question-libertarians-cant-answer-part-ii/

Occam's Banana
06-12-2013, 04:55 AM
And yet more jib-jabbery from Dionne (courtesy Tom DiLorenzo @ LRC) ...

FROM: http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/139356.html

A statist propagandist who writes for the company newspaper in the "company" town of Washington, D.C. flatly contradicts himself in a recent column while pretending that the federal government is withering away to nothing!

E.J. Dionne (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ej-dionne-jr-libertarianisms-achilles-heel/2013/06/09/4dfd3c9c-cf8c-11e2-8f6b-67f40e176f03_story.html)argues in the first 97 percent of his column that: 1) libertarian ideas are irrelevant to politics, and then 2) concludes in the final sentence that there is "gridlock" in Washington because too many members of Congress are libertarians! Libertarian ideas are both irrelevant and all-dominating according to Dionne.

Dionne cites Murray Rothbard (http://mises.org/document/1010/For-a-New-Liberty-the-Libertarian-Manifesto)as the chief source of these dreaded libertarian ideas, which are so powerful as to "gridlock" the U.S. Congress (despite being irrelevant). This is very odd since it's a good bet that Rand Paul is probably the only one of 535 members of the House and Senate who has ever read anything by Rothbard. Congratulations, Senator Paul, on the Superman-like power and influence you have acquired! And just from reading Rothbard! (http://mises.org/rothbard/mes.asp)

The Washington Post has a very odd definition of "gridlock" in light of the fact that government spending at all levels today is about 70 percent higher than it was ten years ago; we are on the disastrous road to socialized medicine; there are more than 77,000 pages of fine-print regulations of American businesses in the Federal Register; the Fourth Amendment has finally been dumped; a police state that the Nazis could only have dreamed of was on display in Boston a few weeks ago; and there are no limits at all on government taxing, spending, borrowing, and money printing. E.J. Dionne has revealed himself as a totalitarian socialist, which is what all of the Washington establishment has become with very few exceptions. They might as well resurrect the old hammer and cycle on the masthead of the Washington Post.

Christian Liberty
06-12-2013, 11:59 AM
They're at it again!

First, Michael Lind. (see here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?416664-%91The-Question-Libertarians-Just-Can%92t-Answer%92-Tom-Woods-replies-to-Salon )

Now E.J. Dionne ...



More at link: http://www.libertyclassroom.com/the-question-libertarians-cant-answer-part-ii/
I'd be surprised if Amash and Massie have never read Rothbard...

Occam's Banana
06-12-2013, 12:18 PM
I'd be surprised if Amash and Massie have never read Rothbard...

Can't speak for Massie, but check it ...

http://p.twimg.com/AwcxHfiCEAEhnk5.jpg:large

Henry Rogue
06-12-2013, 06:13 PM
Clockwise Hayek, Mises, Bastiat Rothbard, Menger. What no Hazlitt?