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sailingaway
06-11-2013, 05:17 PM
I didn't see this, let me know if it has already been posted:

http://b-i.forbesimg.com/andygreenberg/files/2013/06/Screen-Shot-2013-06-05-at-11.46.39-PM.png


The National Security Agency has long justified its spying powers by arguing that its charter allows surveillance on those outside of the United States, while avoiding intrusions into the private communications of American citizens. But the latest revelation of the extent of the NSA’s surveillance shows that it has focused specifically on Americans, to the degree that its data collection has in at least one major spying incident explicitly excluded those outside the United States.

In a top secret order obtained by the Guardian newspaper and published Wednesday evening, the FBI on the NSA’s behalf demanded that Verizon turn over all metadata for phone records originating in the United States for the three months beginning in late April and ending on the 19th of July. That metadata includes all so-called “non-content” data for millions of American customers’ phone calls, such as the subscriber data, recipients, locations, times and durations of every call made during that period.

Aside from the sheer scope of that surveillance order, reminiscent of the warrantless wiretapping scandal under the Bush administration, the other shocking aspect of the order its target: The order specifically states that only data regarding calls originating in America are to be handed over, not those between foreigners.

more at link: http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/06/05/nsas-verizon-spying-order-specifically-targeted-americans-not-foreigners/

Lucille
06-11-2013, 05:20 PM
The war on us.

If illegals were smart, they'd run screaming home.

I guess if I were smart, I'd GTFO too.

Seraphim
06-11-2013, 05:22 PM
Unsurprising. It's Americans who will stop the US gov't and NO ONE else.

QueenB4Liberty
06-11-2013, 05:29 PM
I don't know how anyone can be shocked or surprised here.

Elias Graves
06-11-2013, 05:38 PM
Unsurprising. It's Americans who will stop the US gov't and NO ONE else.

Ain't that always the case?
Go get your shovels and gloves, folks. There's a barn that needs cleaned out.

georgiaboy
06-11-2013, 05:50 PM
We've justified nearly every single major military conflict we've entered into in the last century on the grounds of protecting people from overreaching governments, be they communist, dictatorial, fascist, etc.

I distinctly remember hearing the horror stories about how the USSR, North Vietnam, North Korea, et al, spied on their citizens, read their mail, intercepted their telephone calls, and on and on. "Papers! Let me see your Papers!"

To even begin to think that Americans aren't 100% in an uproar after seeing this happening in our great nation, after our friends and relatives put on the uniform to defend against this kind of tyranny elsewhere, is beyond comprehension.

I am aghast.