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cajuncocoa
06-08-2013, 06:21 PM
by Scott Locklin


According to Fairleigh Dickinson University’s PublicMind survey (http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2013/guncontrol/), 29% of US citizens polled say they believe that “In the next few years, an armed revolution might be necessary in order to protect our liberties.” Of the five potential responses to this question—“agree, disagree, neither, unsure, no answer”—only 47% of those polled (31% of Republicans) overtly disagree with the statement.


Looking at current cultural indicators, it seems more surprising that so few people harbor revolutionary sentiments.


Our ruling caste rivals (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/06/26/Gay-rights-icon-arrested-child-porn) the ancient Roman emperors for personal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Weiner_sexting_scandal) decadence (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/nadia-lockyer) and corruption (http://dailybail.com/home/we-havent-forgotten-you-jon-corzine.html). An official from the FBI (http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/12/08/us-usa-corruption-fbi-idUSTRE5B74AI20091208) says corruption is America’s leading problem. Americans have little faith in important national institutions (http://www.gallup.com/poll/1597/confidence-institutions.aspx): Congress, the healthcare system, the financial system, the schools (http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2012/06/20/americans-lose-faith-in-public-schools/), the criminal-justice system, big business, and the media. Other than the military, and to a lesser extent the police, all major national institutions are widely loathed.

“Which Americans are going to lead an armed revolt against the present regime?”


The government and various unaccountable NGOs are actively subverting the borders while citizens wallow in 14% U6 unemployment rates (http://portalseven.com/employment/unemployment_rate_u6.jsp). Our economic elites tell us that immigrants are necessary for economic growth, but for 90% of the population (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/business/income-inequality/), economic growth has remained stagnant or gone backwards since 1970. The egregious lies (http://www.theamericanconservative.com/american-pravda-reality-television/) and omissions of our mass-media politburo are so bad, Larry King has gone to work for Pravda (http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/06/larry_king_carrying_soviet_water.html). The IRS harasses (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/irs-apologizes-targeting-conservative-groups?fb_action_ids=10201309556288042&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%7B) conservative political groups with impunity. The government spies (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57583395-38/doj-we-dont-need-warrants-for-e-mail-facebook-chats/?tag=nl.e703&s_cid=e703&ttag=e703) on its citizens. The government drives tanks (http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/04/unprecedented_show_of_force) and flies military helicopters around our major cities in response to the towering threat of two Crock-Pot-wielding foreigners who were settled here and subsidized (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/younger_boston_bomber_planning_welfare_ecVKYuwcrw2 vOkwnIG4RLN) by the government in the first place.


Almost 0.75% of the US population (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rate) is in prison at any given moment—the highest rate in the world. A consequence of this is that 9% of American men will go to prison in their lifetimes (http://bjsdata.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/Llgsfp.pdf). One in four (http://yubanet.com/usa/65-Million-Americans-With-Criminal-Records-Face-Unprecedented-Barriers-to-Employment.php#.UY6pSElXDeQ) Americans has some kind of criminal record. American men have a 52% chance (http://blogs.wsj.com/numbersguy/how-many-american-men-will-be-arrested-in-their-lifetimes-842/) of being arrested in their lifetimes.


On the family front, overzealous CPS workers and police in California recently took a five-month-old infant away from his parents for seeking a second opinion (http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2013/05/03/cps-takes-child-after-mom-gets-2nd-opinion/) over a life-threatening surgery. California CPS workers didn’t mind when a lesbian couple began giving their 8-year-old boy a sex change (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043345/The-California-boy-11-undergoing-hormone-blocking-treatment.html). Thanks to our financial elites, manufacturing output has fallen into a bottomless abyss (http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/06/manufacturing-drops-unexpectedly.php), except for ammunition makers (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/07/Ammunition-Manufacturers-We-re-Producing-As-Much-As-We-Can), who can’t make enough to feed both the government and nervous citizens.


The situation appears grim, but the question presents itself: Which Americans are going to lead an armed revolt against the present regime? There are none. While people may be unhappy at the state of things, there is no political vanguard with ideas or organizational skills. Demographics are also not friendly to the potential revolution. Revolutions are largely fought by young men. While there are occasional signs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encyclopedia_Dramatica) of independent-minded youth, the exceptional among them are either rotting in jail, working on their startup ideas, or going expat. The average among them are drugged, cowed, atomized (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomised) from their communities, and presently useless (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/books/reviews/waragainstboys0703.htm) to themselves and others.


Veteran Marine and libertarian radio host Adam Kokesh is the most prominent American right-wing figure currently making actual revolutionary noises. After spending a few nights in jail (http://www.ibtimes.com/adam-kokesh-decides-stay-jail-refuses-give-judge-phone-number-address-1278855), he changed his mind about his peaceful march (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/protest-group-plans-july-4-march-on-washington-with-loaded-rifles/2013/05/07/59b8e392-b727-11e2-aa9e-a02b765ff0ea_story.html) on Washington with loaded rifles and is now calling for an “open source (http://www.infowars.com/adam-kokesh-calls-for-decentralized-open-source-march-on-state-capitols/)” demonstration in all 50 state capitals. In other words, he is a loon who has no idea how to organize a movement against looming tyranny any more than the incompetent grubbinses at Occupy Wall Street did.


Modern governments are good at pacifying their citizens. The present system uses plenty of old-fashioned Soviet-style repression, jailing large fractions of the populace pour encourager les autres, depriving thought criminals of their livelihood, and overtly controlling (http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-05-20/bigger-story-behind-ap-spying-scandal) the sparse mass media that remains. They also use the old British imperial techniques of pacifying restive populations with pornography, social atomization, importing workers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian_Chinese#History) to pit against the native populace, psychoactive drugs (http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2011/10/20/141544135/look-around-1-in-10-americans-take-antidepressants), and cheap entertainment. While the people are obviously not content, they are pacified, and for the system to continue on its present trajectory, that is enough. The Ottoman Empire wasn’t terribly popular, either, and it lasted 400 years.


In the US, most people wouldn’t put themselves through the most trivial inconvenience for any reason. Which militia group would feed, house, or protect their fellow citizens in an actual crisis? Will Paultards give a disgraced comrade a job to support himself and his family, or will they leave him to starve on the “free market?” How many conservative apparatchiks or blog apes have a dozen or a hundred allies he can depend on in a fistfight, let alone a revolution against the most powerful government in human history?


Keyboard and barroom revolutionaries are plentiful. The actual requirement for any sort of revolution in the country is a Hezbollah or Golden Dawn type movement: a group that provides government services without being the government. The closest thing we have to a political vanguard in the US at present is the group bringing the blessings of gender-neutral restrooms to the republic. Even if you believe in that sort of thing, it is hardly a threat to the powers that be.


A revolution against the government is the sheerest fantasy (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323826804578466794172912194.html), no matter how well-armed the citizenry is. Since the most trusted institution in America at present is the military, if nuts such as Kokesh, OWS, or the glory-hole patrol began causing real problems, the most likely outcome will be martial law such as we recently saw in Boston.



If there is to be a revolt against the present system, it will come from trained experts. The only experts we have are in veterans’ groups. The American Legion, for example, used to be a serious political force that people feared, and with good reason (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Legion#Centralia_Massacre_of_1919). The Department of Homeland Security agrees (http://www.westernjournalism.com/dhs-caught-spying-on-veterans/): Veterans are being watched as potential domestic insurgents. I think the American Legion is as likely to bring about meaningful change as they are to pilot a Winnebago to Jupiter, but if I were a would-be revolutionary rather than a would-be expatriate, that is where I would target my efforts.
Meanwhile, political discontents should put away their revolutionary fantasies (http://voxday.blogspot.com/2013/05/speaking-out-vs-shooting.html) and join a local civic group. Befriending local Rotary Club members is more likely to be useful during a civil war than a stockpile of grain and ammo.






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Natural Citizen
06-08-2013, 06:37 PM
Scott seems to be begging the question. Transparent too. Bye, Scott...

Open source works.....

Is a broad phenomenon and certainly not premised upon a bunch of pissed off people in the streets.

Besides. Not even a fraction of the way through realization of what is surely a renaissance. There will be none of this theoretical revolution (?) without it. Scott's in a big old hurry to go no place.

Clever feller though. :)

Don't run. Walk.... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbUxePfsoWE)

sluggo
06-08-2013, 06:42 PM
Locklin is an ass.

angelatc
06-08-2013, 06:49 PM
The actual requirement for any sort of revolution in the country is a Hezbollah or Golden Dawn type movement: a group that provides government services without being the government.

yep.

ghengis86
06-08-2013, 07:02 PM
Hmmm...looks like at least 29% of Americans are being actively tracked by the NSA.

oyarde
06-08-2013, 07:08 PM
Scott seems to be begging the question. Transparent too. Bye, Scott...

Open source works.....

Is a broad phenomenon and certainly not premised upon a bunch of pissed off people in the streets.

Besides. Not even a fraction of the way through realization of what is surely a renaissance. There will be none of this theoretical revolution (?) without it. Scott's in a big old hurry to go no place.

Clever feller though. :)

Don't run. Walk.... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbUxePfsoWE)

I am not certain he is clever , I think he just called me a Paultard and then disrespected me because I have no intention to feed him. Maybe he should look into how Hezbollah gets the money for the services they provide .

mad cow
06-08-2013, 07:12 PM
The actual requirement for any sort of revolution in the country is a Hezbollah or Golden Dawn type movement: a group that provides government services without being the government.


yep.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaUq4h818E8

angelatc
06-08-2013, 07:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaUq4h818E8


http://www.sogoodblog.com/2007/10/16/nefarious-ron-paul-supporters-plotting-to-spam-food-banks-across-the-country/

http://www.chron.com/bayarea/news/article/Galveston-County-Food-Bank-welcomes-new-4423983.php

ClydeCoulter
06-08-2013, 07:58 PM
Some people just want to "call you out". Sorry dude, you won't know before it happens, you just won't.

cajuncocoa
06-08-2013, 08:42 PM
The "Paultard" and "Kokesh is a loon" comments notwithstanding, I think he's right that most Americans are all talk when it comes to calling for a revolution. Dems are only unhappy when a Republican is in office, and Republicans are only unhappy when a Dem is. Meanwhile, there's not the chance of a snowball in hell that you could get the average American to put down the bag of Doritos and turn off American Idol long enough to even understand the problems we face, much less join a revolution over them.

ClydeCoulter
06-08-2013, 09:48 PM
The "Paultard" and "Kokesh is a loon" comments notwithstanding, I think he's right that most Americans are all talk when it comes to calling for a revolution. Dems are only unhappy when a Republican is in office, and Republicans are only unhappy when a Dem is. Meanwhile, there's not the chance of a snowball in hell that you could get the average American to put down the bag of Doritos and turn off American Idol long enough to even understand the problems we face, much less join a revolution over them.

I know it seems like what you are saying, but it's not so. Let shit start in one place, and you will see it everywhere behind every blade of grass. Get out and talk to people from a non-political point of view. Hell, just keep quiet and listen, you will hear it in the wind.

UWDude
06-09-2013, 02:55 AM
A dorito-eating munch-tard is not new.
There has been, and there always will be the complacent.
there has been, and there always will be, peasant revolts as well.
The difference is, the dorito eating munch-tard this time actually will be too out of shape to be forced to join a side via bayonet. That he is too socially insulated to be of intelligence gathering use, and too dumb to be of any other use, also is nothing new.

Revolutions are incredibly ugly, as any war is. They solve very little, like any war.
The dorito eating munch-tard will have his doritos seized by one side or the other, or both.
There are times in sectarian conflict, where civilians are more likely to die than fighters. Civilians don't see it coming, and do not have the training or experience to fight or dodge it... ...and fighters take what they need for survival, not caring about the non-combatants. A peasant imploring a fighter not to take the last of their food will not mean much to the man with the gun, empty stomach, and well beyond caring for anyone but himself and his buddies.

Anyway, revolution is a fantasy, at least the revolution imagined by most. What will be reality is fractured sectarian conflict, spiraling out on a series of explosive incidents, and deteriorating economy. It will fracture at race faults, and at class faults, and at ideological faults. Crackdowns will strengthen them, by forcing them into sub-cultures and secret underground cults that only paranoia can create so perfectly, until a sub-set find a way to stop the quarreling and unite into open conflict, based on hatred of the government and little more. But that is a 30 or 40 year process. With their new, revolutionary zeal, this sub set will be victorious, and for 20 years will try to implement whatever social experiment they have come up with through force and blood and battle and victory, yes, even if it is libertarianism. I know, huh? And in 20 years, it will be just another dictatorship. Once the perceived enemy is removed, the solidarity breaks down, and the movement itself fractures. Usually violently. The American revolution didn't fracture for four-score and seven years.

I don't think anyone in America has delusions the world is going to get better, or more free.

tod evans
06-09-2013, 05:33 AM
Anyway, revolution is a fantasy, at least the revolution imagined by most. What will be reality is fractured sectarian conflict, spiraling out on a series of explosive incidents, and deteriorating economy. It will fracture at race faults, and at class faults, and at ideological faults. Crackdowns will strengthen them, by forcing them into sub-cultures and secret underground cults that only paranoia can create so perfectly, until a sub-set find a way to stop the quarreling and unite into open conflict, based on hatred of the government and little more.

My opinion is that any "fractures" that take place will be between rural and urban sects of society.

Anti Federalist
06-09-2013, 08:47 AM
I don't wish for revolution, I wish for peaceful secession, a separation, a divorce between two peoples that now fully loathe each other and have irreconcilable differences.

I want nothing to do with the District of Calamity or any of its holdings.

Occam's Banana
06-09-2013, 01:16 PM
Meh. This is just a standard-issue fetishization of the supposed "need" for armed revolution/revolt, framed within a lament that it won't actually happen (or that those who try won't "do it right") - all wrapped up in a bunch of holier-than-thou sneers & potshots at groups the author apparently doesn't like.

Under present circumstances, the fatal problem with any such revolt (entirely apart from the ability to get it started or to pull it off successfully) is that it would be exceedingly likely to produce something every bit as bad - or even much worse - than what we've already got.

What we need is extensive nullification, radical decentralization, and an explicit acknowledgement of the right of secession (and not just the right to seceed from the current system, but also from whatever system might be the result of any putative revolution). There must also be an explicit effort for the assiduous reduction of things down to what Kirkpatrick Sale calls "the human scale." Without any of that, the only things an armed revolution is going to get you are more collectivist demagoguery and would-be Führers. Any violent revolt today (or in the near future) would be extremely premature.

The most successful historical implementation & achievement of these things (nullification, decentralization & secession) ocurred with the American Revolution. And even then, the collectivists, demagogues & would-be Hamiltons of the day still managed to win in the end (starting when the Articles of Confederation were overthrown & replaced with the Constitution).

UWDude
06-09-2013, 02:28 PM
My opinion is that any "fractures" that take place will be between rural and urban sects of society.


Actually, that was kind of what I was alluding to with "having his doritos taken" because in revolutions, usually the countryside is pillaged by both, (or in the case of Ukraine, all three) sides. But yes, urban vs rural is a common pattern as well, and likely fracture.

UWDude
06-09-2013, 02:29 PM
We still have the legal right to call a constitutional convention. I'd say it is the only non-violent option left.