Proof Britain doesn't need EU

[Warlord]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2013/6/7/241839/default/v2/express-1-329x437.jpg

Sales of British goods to the world’s fast-growing countries rocketed by more than 11 per cent over the last year. At the same time, British exports to the 26 European Union nations fell by 1.5 per cent.

Official data showed that half the UK’s exports now go outside the EU and trade with China, India and the US is soaring.

Tory minister Matthew Hancock said the figures were “really extraordinary” while anti-Brussels campaigners seized on them as confirmation that Britain would be better off outside the EU. Conservative MP Douglas Carswell said: “With every set of trade figures, the case for quitting the EU gets stronger. Europe is the only continent that is not growing, so why are we still tied to this stagnating trade bloc?”

Tim Aker of the anti-EU campaign group Get Britain Out, said: “These figures show the EU is the past. The future is outside the EU with new economies and markets crying out for our exports.

“Only outside the EU can we negotiate trade deals to suit our national interest. The longer we stay in the EU, the longer we will be exposed to the eurozone crisis. Businesses are starting to look beyond the EU, it’s high time politicians did too.”

Euro MP William Dartmouth, the UK Independence Party’s trade spokesman, said: “These figures underline the reality. Britain cannot afford to remain shackled to the EU. For prosperity, for jobs and for our future, we must get out.”

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/405985/Proof-Britain-doesn-t-need-EU-our-trade-with-rest-of-the-world-is-now-booming

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LOL @ Daily Express "crusade" to "get Britain out of the EU". The interesting dynamic in the UK is that much of the mass popular media is in independent hands and anti-EU.

[Warlord]

Here's the editorial. They don't mince their words:

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Ailing European Union losing its hold on Britain

THE long-term pattern is clear:as time goes on Britain is doing relatively less trade with the EU and more with non-EU countries.

The reasons for this are not hard to discern.

Not only is the EU in long-term economic decline relative to the rest of the world but the terrible problems of the eurozone are accelerating the trend.

It is striking that imports from the EU plunged by £1.3billion during April alone.

And our exports to Germany are in the doldrums while those to the United States are booming, up by seven per cent in three months.

And yet while the volume of EU trade declines, the obligations of membership increase all the time.

It should now be clear to any sensible politician that being locked into a regional European trading block is becoming a ludicrous position for a nation such as Britain that has historic ties with other, much faster-growing parts of the world economy.

Brighter Cabinet ministers such as Michael Gove appear to understand this.

In the Seventies when Britain hitched its wagon to what was then the European Economic Community it was this country that felt itself to be falling behind the demands of modernity.

Now it is the EU that appears obsolete with its member states hugely indebted, unable to afford their welfare systems and most locked into a currency zone that has been constructed to suit a dominant Germany.

David Cameron once woundingly told Tony Blair: "You were the future once."

Now Britain can say the same thing to the Brussels empire. Our escape from its clutches is only a matter of time.

http://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/405994/Ailing-European-Union-losing-its-hold-on-Britain

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LOL @ Daily Express "crusade" to "get Britain out of the EU". The interesting dynamic in the UK is that much of the mass popular media is in independent hands and anti-EU.

I think it's fairly balanced actually. The following major British news media outlets are pro-EU:
- Daily Mirror (Labour)
- The Guardian (Lib Dem/Labour)
- The Observer (Lib Dem/Labour)
- (ironically) The Independent (Lib Dem)
- i (Lib Dem)
- The Economist (moderate Labour/moderate Conservative)
- New Statesman (Labour)
- Financial Times (moderate Labour/Lib Dem/moderate Conservative)
- The People (Labour)
- BBC News (Lib Dem/Labour)

The following are Eurosceptic:
- Daily Mail (Conservative)
- The Daily Telegraph (Conservative)
- The Sun (moderate Labour/moderate Conservative)
- The Times (moderate Labour/moderate Conservative)
- The Spectator (Conservative)
- Daily Express (Conservative)
- Morning Star (Communist/Green/Labour)
- Sky News (Conservative)

[Warlord]

The circulation/reach of the second group far exceeds the 1st group and the BBC has to be impartial under law with equal time considerations to either side

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The circulation/reach of the second group far exceeds the 1st group and the BBC has to be impartial under law with equal time considerations to either side

Yeah, they say that, but the BBC is not really impartial, that's an open secret. It's the TV equivalent of the Guardian.


BBC political pundit Andrew Marr said: 'The BBC is not impartial or neutral. It's a publicly funded, urban organisation with an abnormally large number of young people, ethnic minorities and gay people. It has a liberal bias not so much a party-political bias. It is better expressed as a cultural liberal bias.'

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/two-reports-accuse-bbc-of-bias-in-eu-coverage-7170654.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-411846/We-biased-admit-stars-BBC-News.html
http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/552791/the-bbc-white-season-only-shows-how-little-auntie-has-really-changed/
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/what-is-the-loneliest-job-in-britain-being-a-tory-at-the-bbc-7245499.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/sep/24/bbc-news-tories-jeremy-hunt
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2010/9/2/thompson-bbc-had-massive-left-wing-bias
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9475479/Heres-how-we-counter-the-BBCs-liberal-bias.html (article by Hannan)
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100164971/the-bbcs-left-wing-bias-isnt-in-its-news-coverage-its-in-everything-else-that-it-does/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1349506/Left-wing-bias-Its-written-BBCs-DNA-says-Peter-Sissons.html
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/1953/exclusive_bbc_left_wing_political_bias_illustrated _through_uk_political_funding_revelations
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3458/exclusive_bbc_bias_exposed_as_newspaper_purchases_ reveals_continued_guardian_bias
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/10/bbc-review-liberal-bias


As for the circulation, you are correct if you exclude the BBC.

[Warlord]

The BBC has had Farage and other UKIP people on numerous times on news/question time/various progs He has never been blacklisted like the US media did to Ron. They even give the BNP and Nick Griffin air time. They might be inherently biased in their views/outlook/agenda but their coverage tends to be impartial

[talkingpointes]

The BBC has had Farage and other UKIP people on numerous times on news/question time/various progs He has never been blacklisted like the US media did to Ron. They even give the BNP and Nick Griffin air time. They might be inherently biased in their views/outlook/agenda but their coverage tends to be impartial

I listened to an interview of him on BBC Edinburgh... Let me find it -- they are openly, on-air hostile with him. It's pretty bad.

There was a show last weekend with UKIP and BNP, and they called UKIP racist on a nightly interview/debate. It's pretty fucked up really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsOld6LV-YY

[Warlord]

I listened to an interview of him on BBC Edinburgh... Let me find it -- they are openly, on-air hostile with him. It's pretty bad.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsOld6LV-YY

BBC Scotland are yes.. but not in England it's much better/fairer

[Warlord]

Also if there's a referendum on the EU the BBC will be under intense scrutiny to be impartial and every minute of output will be recorded/monitored etc and they will be expected to ensure fair air time and impartial coverage.

[compromise]

The BBC has had Farage and other UKIP people on numerous times on news/question time/various progs He has never been blacklisted like the US media did to Ron. They even give the BNP and Nick Griffin air time. They might be inherently biased in their views/outlook/agenda but their coverage tends to be impartial

Farage was blacklisted for a while, only recently he's started coming on a lot.

He mentions he has experienced a media blackout:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=duc5mSgtG3c

In this one he accuses the BBC of being biased towards the Greens over UKIP (he has mentioned this quite a few times):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeH4YmXe5EM

They gave Griffin about 15 minutes in their Question Time, then never had him on again. It's not like he's a regular.