Another top secret NSA program exposed - PRISM

[tsai3904]

The National Security Agency and the FBI are tapping directly into the central servers of nine leading U.S. Internet companies, extracting audio, video, photographs, e-mails, documents and connection logs that enable analysts to track a person’s movements and contacts over time.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret-program/2013/06/06/3a0c0da8-cebf-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story.html


Through a Top-Secret program authorized by federal judges working under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), the U.S. intelligence community can gain access to the servers of nine internet companies for a wide range of digital data. Documents describing the previously undisclosed program, obtained by The Washington Post, show the breadth of U.S. electronic surveillance capabilities in the wake of a widely publicized controversy over warrantless wiretapping of U.S. domestic telephone communications in 2005. These slides represent a selection from the overall document and certain portions are redacted.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/prism-collection-documents/

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[Uriel999]

In other news the NSA is balls deep in cataloging every Americans porn preferences...Oh and you don't even want to know what Matt Collins is into...yeesh! :P

[UtahApocalypse]

The dominoes are falling

[Lucille]

Why the gov't source leaked PRISM
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/06/why-the-govt-sources-leaked-prism-165623.html#.UbERcUfIxSV.twitter


Why did a government source leak information of this program, dubbed "PRISM," to the Post? What follows is perhaps the most chilling paragraph I've read to date about U.S. government surveillance:


Firsthand experience with these systems, and horror at their capabilities, is what drove a career intelligence officer to provide PowerPoint slides about PRISM and supporting materials to The Washington Post in order to expose what he believes to be a gross intrusion on privacy. “They quite literally can watch your ideas form as you type,” the officer said.

In the wake of last night's Guardian report about the NSA's collection of Verizon phone user metadata, the New York Times editorial board argued that the Obama administration "has now lost all credibility" in defending its abuses of executive power. That was before the report about PRISM, which unlike the Verizon metadata, includes surveillance of user content.

[Warlord]

WaPo must have sat on this for weeks if not months

They disgust me..

[tsai3904]

Apple's statement:


Apple told CNBC, "We have never heard of PRISM. We do not provide any government agency with direct access to our servers, and any government agency requesting customer data must get a court order."

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100797046

[ravedown]

any proof of them delaying this?

[Inkblots]

Evil, evil, evil. Lord Jesus, help us.

[Warlord]

Facebook are also denying this but they might not know if the NSA are doing it at tier 1 level?

[Warlord]

More Facebook: "We do not provide any government organization with direct access to Facebook servers."
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What about your ISPs facebook?

[PSYOP]

I don't watch TV -- has this been talked about in the MSM at all?

[Inkblots]

I don't watch TV -- has this been talked about in the MSM at all?

It's the lead story on all the cable news shows, for obvious reasons. This is huge, and 10 years ago people who talked about this coming were called paranoid.

[Warlord]

Declan McCullagh @declanm
(http://twitter.com/declanm) NBC News "confirmed from two sources that the PRISM program exists" and is used for data collection:

[tod evans]

Remember this is what you're permitted to know...:eek:

[jonhowe]

Are those government made slides?

Really?


Or are they made by a journalist or informant to illustrate what it is?

[HOLLYWOOD]

The NSA is the largest user in the world of E Data Storage... That's why Storage companies and certain high tech companies do so well. Their Federal Systems divisions are huge money makers for technology companies.

Notice those leech fucks at Microsoft were first to turnover private data... US government is the largest customer to Microsoft products.

FASCISM

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/media/fascism1984.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=US+fascism&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=Nl3KRaSH3V6EwM&tbnid=-WiItGmzMt4rsM:&ved=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thepeoplesvoice.org%2Fcgi-bin%2Fblogs%2Fvoices.php%2F2007%2F07%2F01%2Fp17982&ei=BEOxUdqqDujhiwLTq4C4Dg&bvm=bv.47534661,d.cGE&psig=AFQjCNES4sRemWAy-bGtFv0HJJbEpgJ9tQ&ust=1370657842577516)

[Carson]

They should just pay us their fines and move on.


"FISA makes it illegal to intentionally engage in electronic surveillance under appearance of an official act or to disclose or use information obtained by electronic surveillance under appearance of an official act knowing that it was not authorized by statute; this is punishable with a fine of up to $10,000 or up to five years in prison, or both."

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/1809

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_warrantless_surveillance_controversy

Or;

"It is a federal crime to wiretap without court approval, unless one of the parties has given their prior consent. It is likewise a federal crime to use or disclose any information acquired by illegal wiretapping. Violations can result in imprisonment for not more than five years; fines up to $250,000 (up to $500,000 for organizations); in civil liability for damages, attorneys’ fees and possibly punitive damages; in disciplinary action against any attorneys involved; and in suppression of any derivative evidence."

https://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs9-wrtp.htm



I read somewhere that the fines were for each violation. I'm not sure if applies the these.

[J_White]

hell is breaking loose !
this is not the kind of "change" Obama promised, is it ?

[pcosmar]

This ought to keep everybody looking away from something.. Syria? Iran?

Some of us knew this,, (not details so much as general spying). We were called crazy.

[Antischism]

hell is breaking loose !
this is not the kind of "change" Obama promised, is it ?

Obama, 2007: “This administration also puts forward a false choice between the liberties we cherish and the securities we provide. I will provide our intelligence and law enforcement agencies with the tools they need to track and take out the terrorists without undermining our constitution and our freedom. That means no more illegal wiretapping of American citizens. No more National Security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime. No more tracking of citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war. No more ignoring the law when it is inconvenient. That is not who we are. That’s now what is necessary to defeat the terrorists. The FISA Court works. The separation of powers works. Our constitution works. We will again set an example to the world that the law is not subject to the whims of stubborn rulers and that justice is not arbitrary. This administration acts like violating civil liberties is the way to enhance our security. It is not. There are no shortcuts to protecting America.”

Yeah, so much for that.

[phill4paul]

This ought to keep everybody looking away from something.. Syria? Iran?

Some of us knew this,, (not details so much as general spying). We were called crazy.

I find no satisfaction in being proven right time and again. None. Because despite the fact that I, or we, are right it will not matter. Excuses will be made. Misdirection and you and I will remain crazy. Wacko birds.

[surf]

not a techie, but i'm guessing that with a massive clusterf#ck of ever-growing data to sift through that they'd never be able to find what they are looking for (even if they knew), never be able to follow up on it, etc.

edit: if you don't know me, this pisses me off as much as it does everyone here not named Lindsey Graham

[kpitcher]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A

They don't necessarily need backdoors right into facebook they can simply snoop all traffic and datamine as needed. Sure https will stop some things but it will at least show a pattern very quickly.

With the new huge data warehouse coming online and a near unlimited budget the NSA can presumably sort through all that data.

[Antischism]

I wonder what they could do with Microsoft's Kinect that's going to be bundled with their "always online" Xbox One later this year.

[HOLLYWOOD]

CISPA Author Rogers: NSA Is Not 'Monitoring the Internet'

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/03/28/cispa-author-rogers-nsa-is-not-monitoring-the-internet
The Michigan congressman says privacy concerns will be addressed with 'direct language.'

By Jason Koebler (http://www.usnews.com/topics/author/jason_koebler)

March 28, 2013


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Rep. Mike Rogers of Michigan, says his cybersecurity bill won't allow the National Security Agency to spy on American citizens.

Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), author of the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act cybersecurity bill, said Thursday that the bill's "information sharing" aspect does not seek to share citizens' information with the government.
"Our NSA is not monitoring the Internet here in the United States," he said at a cybersecurity briefing in Washington, D.C. "I can guarantee you that."
[ENJOY: Political Cartoons on Chinese Hacking (http://www.usnews.com/cartoons/chinese-hacking-cartoons)]
When it was originally introduced in November 2011, CISPA would have allowed companies to pass information to the National Security Agency. The bill was reintroduced this February. According to the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which strongly opposes the bill, CISPA would have allowed companies to "hand 'cyber threat information' to any government agency with or without limitations on what agency can receive the information."
In February 2012, Sen. John McCain suggested that any cybersecurity bill would be ineffective unless the NSA was closely involved. McCain said the NSA and U.S. Cyber Command are the "only institutions currently capable of [protecting the Internet]."
[READ: Internet Slowed By Largest Attack in History (http://www.usnews.com/news/newsgram/articles/2013/03/27/internet-slowdown-largest-attack-in-history-spamhaus-cyberbunker)]
pRogers said the aspect of the bill that allows the government to share classified data relating to "cyberthreats" with companies would have specific language to assuage Internet users' privacy concerns.p
"It's good to share. All we're talking about doing is taking malicious source code and sharing that with [companies] in a classified way," he said. "We want to make sure we meet the level of privacy concerns. We're working on writing very direct language to reiterate that."
Former Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff, who coauthored the Patriot Act under President George W. Bush, said Thursday that the information-sharing aspect of CISPA is more necessary than ever because the "intensity and seriousness of [cyberattacks] have increased."
"How can you deal with this without information sharing? When the adversary is able to use the same tool or technique over and over again with different targets, they get more bang for their buck," he said.
[READ: Semper Wi-Fi: Marines Get Keyboards Along With Rifles (http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/03/26/semper-wi-fi-marines-get-keyboards-along-with-rifles)]
Rogers reintroduced CISPA in February, which passed the House of Representatives last year but failed in the Senate. Rogers said the bill is designed to protect companies from getting their intellectual property—including blueprints, plans and patents—stolen by foreign countries, especially China.
The Chinese government is stealing American ideas to "repurpose [them] and compete in the international market with no consequence," Rogers said. "And it's working exceptionally well."
"We are in a cyberwar and we're losing every single day."
More News:


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Wyden Vows to Stop Warrentless Spying on Americans (http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/06/19/wyden-vows-to-stop-nsa-from-spying-on-americans-without-a-warrant)
Former CIA Director Compares Cyber Attacks to Hiroshima (http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/02/20/former-cia-director-cyber-attack-game-changers-comparable-to-hiroshima)

[jct74]

here is Glenn's article in the Guardian yesterday following up the Washington Post report

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data

[Lucille]

Anonymous Just Leaked a Trove of NSA Documents
http://gizmodo.com/anonymous-just-leaked-a-trove-of-nsa-documents-511854773


In the wake of last night’s revelation that everyone in the world has a creepy NSA-shaped stalker, defenders of online liberty and generally angry internet people Anonymous have leaked a treasure trove of NSA documents, including seriously important stuff like the US Department of Defense’s ‘Strategic Vision’ for controlling the internet.

The documents — 13 in total — were posted online, along with an accompanying message full of the normal Anonymous bluster: people won’t be silenced, they have the memory of trivia-master elephants, the governments of the world will fall, your average press release really.

The documents seem to mostly relate to PRISM and supporting operations, and mostly date from around 2008, supposedly not long after PRISM first reared its ugly head. One of the key things Anonymous has highlighted from the documents is the existence of an “intelligence-sharing network” that shares data gleaned from PRISM with “intelligence partners” around the world...

[eOs]

I kind of assumed all of this since the Patriot Act was enabled. But it's nice to see some solid proof.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lbCFueh3XvU