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Warlord
06-05-2013, 07:41 AM
Obama ally (up until last week) Erdogan being thrown under the bus by the incoherent and insatiable seekers of regime change.


BHL, Neo-Cons Hail 'Turkish Spring' (http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/138664.html)
Posted by Daniel McAdams (dlmcadams@gmail.com) on June 5, 2013 06:57 AM

It is very interesting to see that the odious liar and court intellectual to the humanitarian interventionism cult, Bernard-Henri Lévy, who nearly single-handedly, with his trademark (http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/bernard-henri-levy-s-role-in-the-libyan-war-fotostrecke-80662.html) locks of flowing hair and designer attire, pushed (an all-too-willing) Nicolas Sarkozy into backing the Libyan rebels against Gaddafi*, penned a piece (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bernardhenri-levy/turkey-protests-2013_b_3384067.html) in the Huffington Post yesterday entitled "Towards a Turkish Spring."

Lévy lays down the case -- no doubt shared by his fellow leftish, R2P (http://youtu.be/BVSMulXRd6U), "humanitarian interventionist" revolutionaries like Obama's newly-minted National Security Advisor, Susan Rice -- against Erdogan. Writes Lévy:

"For the past ten years, we've put up with everything from Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

"We tolerated the arrest of journalists and intellectuals, the reign of the arbitrary, and terror as an everyday occurrence.

"We tolerated the closing of bars on the pretext of concern for public health and the condemnation of writers, humorists, and pianists for blasphemy.

"In the name of the 'moderate Islamism' it was supposed to represent, we tolerated a feverish upsurge in anti-Semitism and the obstinate, almost crazy refusal to recognize the Armenian genocide, just months before its centenary...

"One day or another, Turkey will become part of Europe.

"This will be a stroke of good luck for the country, as it will be for a Europe that is sinking deeper into crisis.

"But to do so, the country must return to the path of its stride towards democracy.

"Turkey must fully convert to respect for human rights and the rule of law.

"And Erdogan is no longer -- and in reality never was -- the leader who can accomplish this.

"He was adequate for the chancelleries and the realpolitik of the West."



It is slightly humorous to see Erdogan, who did nearly everything his Western masters demanded -- allowed Turkey to be the launch pad for the West-sponsored insurgency against Assad next door, made nice with Israel while his own population still seethed over the Israeli attack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_flotilla_raid) on the Mavi Marmara, etc. -- fall prey to the regime change machine.

And so Erdogan, the rough-spoken, unpolished son of a poor seaman, must go so that the Bernard-Henri Lévys of the world no longer have to tolerate his coarse ways as Turkey moves inexorably toward progress, toward Western liberalism, towards a Turkish spring! Lévy is a great Marat-like figure. The same murderous attraction to revolution and turmoil, who carries not Marat's physical ugliness but rather wears his hideousness inside.

The leftish Lévy is not alone, Right-wing interventionists are also getting more and more excited by the "Turkish Spring." Here is Michael Rubin interviewed (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/350069/turkish-spring-kathryn-jean-lopez) in the National Review yesterday:

"That said, for those worried about the Arab Spring, it’s crucial they don’t learn the wrong lesson. The Turkish spring is the Arab Spring’s exact opposite. This is not a movement which Islamists will hijack: It is a rebellion against the fiction Islamists promote that they have any interest in democracy. It is a fight for liberal democracy against the forces who seek to impose their own intolerant view of Islam upon neighbors and fellow-citizens. The Turkish Spring is important because it is the first widespread rebellion against the forces of Islamist autocracy. Let us hope not only that it succeeds, but creates a precedent for Egyptians, Iranians, Libyans, Tunisians, and others."



Translation: we may have gotten it slightly wrong last time, but trust us this time! This time I am sure we neo-cons are right and another color revolution will bring the land of milk and honey.

Neocon scribe Victor Davis Hanson echoed (http://usiraq.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000873) Rubin's above thoughts nearly word for word back in 2005 as embraced the "democracy" domino theory:

"It is not a neocon pipedream, but historically plausible that a democratic Israel, Palestine, Turkey, Afghanistan, and Iraq can create momentum that Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, and eventually even a Syria or Iran would find hard to resist.

Saudi Arabia's ballyhooed liberalization, Mubarak's unease about his successor, Libya's strange antics, Pakistan's revelation about nuclear commerce, and the Gulf States' talk of parliaments did not happen in a vacuum, but are rumblings that follow from fears of voters in Afghanistan and Iraq — and a Mullah Omar dethroned and Saddam's clan either dead or in chains."



"Democracy" will break out all over, as it was once said would the glorious dictatorship of the proletariat. It just needs a push. And another...

What does Erdogan's increasingly likely ouster mean for US policy toward Syria? Nothing. His replacement will have his own obligations to those who placed him into power.

*As a funny aside, the radical Islamists Lévy so heartily embraced in Libya, once placed in power, proceeded to ban Lévy from entry (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/author-barred-from-libya-for-being-jewish-8546522.html) into the country -- for being Jewish! Oops!

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/138664.html

Warlord
06-05-2013, 09:05 AM
Warlord heard HOLLYWOOD was a big fan of this arrogant LIAR!

gwax23
06-05-2013, 11:07 AM
Who cares what this guy says. Why do we have to support whoever one group or another detests. Just because some neocons dont like erdogan does not mean we should like erdogan. This is getting childish and ridiculous. Erdogan is no friend of liberty or freedom (Neither is assad)

We should base our views on how these individuals hold up to libertarian principles not on wether some neocons said favorable things about them.

ReasonableThinker
06-05-2013, 11:47 AM
To be honest with you, even though this guy may like the Turkish spring I can bet you most neo-cons would not. Turkey is one of our few allies in the Middle East, not exactly a Neo-Con position to want to see it overthrown. With that said, I hope a more secular regime rises up in Turkey.

Brian4Liberty
06-05-2013, 12:03 PM
Turkey has always been the question mark when it comes to a completely re-united Kurdistan. Seems that may no longer be a problem.

Warlord
06-05-2013, 04:22 PM
Turkey has always been the question mark when it comes to a completely re-united Kurdistan. Seems that may no longer be a problem.

Will McCain be demanding something be done... regime change!

talkingpointes
06-05-2013, 04:24 PM
Nm, wrong adams. But war is war to guys that like -- war.

HOLLYWOOD
06-05-2013, 04:27 PM
Warlord heard HOLLYWOOD was a big fan of this arrogant LIAR!lol

All you need to know, "It's not how many snakes are in media, but how many dens they control"

PSYOP
06-05-2013, 04:34 PM
Wonderful -- now Turkey wants DEMOCRACY. I'm sure John McCain and the Neocons would be happy to oblige. Ask Libya and Egypt how DEMOCRACY worked out for them.

anaconda
06-05-2013, 04:36 PM
Wonderful -- now Turkey wants DEMOCRACY. Ask Libya and Egypt how DEMOCRACY worked out for them.

Exactly. We don't seem to see revolts where the masses are taking to the streets screaming "Constitutional Republic, Now!" A Rand Paul two-term administration might just change that..

AngryCanadian
06-05-2013, 07:20 PM
Bernard-Henri Lévy is hailing the Turkish spring? the same Bernard-Henri Lévy who brought us Libya and wants us to help out in Syria? :rolleyes:

CPUd
06-05-2013, 07:56 PM
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