Adam Carolla: How come Asians and Jews are doing so much better than Blacks and Hispanics?

[ObiRandKenobi]

“A) Get the family intact B) focus on education…there are certain cultures that don’t do that, and those cultures are suffering…and when people like me bring it up, they’re called a racist– when people like Gavin (Newsom) ignore it, they get reelected…”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gvpeAlxwXs

h/t MFP (http://www.mofopolitics.com/2013/06/04/adam-carolla-how-come-asians-and-jews-do-so-much-better-than-blacks-and-hispanics/)

[Zippyjuan]

Because they are starting out with more money.

[James Madison]

Because they are starting out with more money.

Why do they start out with more money?

[AuH20]

Because they are starting out with more money.

I've seen documentaries about ghetto folk winning the lottery and being destitute in 2 to 3 years. Transgenerational success has more to do with the development of a pattern of thought and the establishment of certain values.

[Zippyjuan]

I've seen documentaries about ghetto folk winning the lottery and being destitute in 2 to 3 years. Transgenerational success has more to do with the development of a pattern of thought and the establishment of certain values.

Happens to all sorts of people who get windfalls. Reguardless of being ghetto or not or white or whatever. Why are there extremely successful white people and complete trash who are also white? Neither genetics nor race can explain it.

[SilentBull]

I've seen documentaries about ghetto folk winning the lottery and being destitute in 2 to 3 years. Transgenerational success has more to do with the development of a pattern of thought and the establishment of certain values.

I agree. Many people are poor because they are mentally poor. Give them millions and they will end up poor anyway because they don't change their mindset. Most people have a threshold for how much money they are comfortable having in the bank. If it's 5k, when they have 10k they find a way to spend the extra 5k. But if they change their mindset and stop being comfortable with being poor, they could achieve much more. Many times we sabotage ourselves because subconsciously we only allow ourselves to reach a certain level.

[AuH20]

Happens to all sorts of people who get windfalls. Reguardless of being ghetto or not or white or whatever. Why are there extremely successful white people and complete trash who are also white?

I'm saying that starting out with money isn't the end all. It's about what has been imbued into the person.

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

I've seen documentaries about ghetto folk winning the lottery and being destitute in 2 to 3 years. Transgenerational success has more to do with the development of a pattern of thought and the establishment of certain values.


Sorry zippy, that does make a difference. Any individual can overcome that, but if we're talking about groups, things like generational work ethics will matter.

[Anti Federalist]

Because they are starting out with more money.

Asian and Cuban "boat people" started out with more money?

[brandon]

Asian and Cuban "boat people" started out with more money?

I don't know about "boat people" but generally only the brightest and most well adapted asians and Indians are able to afford to move to America. The best of the best come here. The way many Africans were selected to come here was pretty much the complete opposite.

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

I don't know about "boat people" but generally only the brightest and most well adapted asians and Indians are able to afford to move to America. The best of the best come here. The way many Africans were selected to come here was pretty much the complete opposite.


That's a reasonable point in some ways.

However, it doesn't explain why white people are so dumb with respect to lottery winnings, etc.

[AuH20]

Narcissism and ignorance is a rapidly growing American trait. It seems that the lower classes have these traits in spades, but fear not! The disease is growing!

http://www.oddee.com/item_97101.aspx

[FrankRep]

Because they are starting out with more money.

That's a cop out. There are plenty of success stories of people who started out very poor and went on to become wealthy and successful people. It comes down to educating yourself and having self-determination.

[Brian4Liberty]

The welfare state incentivizes the break-up of families. And how much the family and parents value real education is probably the single best indicator of future success.

[Zippyjuan]

That's a cop out. There are plenty of success stories of people who started out very poor and went on to become wealthy and successful people. It comes down to educating yourself and having self-determination.

Which is not determined by race as Corola tried to say. But having money means have more opportunities such as going to a good school or having capital to start a business or connections to borrow money from.

http://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0211/how-the-rich-got-that-way.aspx

How The Rich Got That Way

It's All in the Genes
Inheritance is clearly one of the proven pathways to getting rich. About one-third of the 50 richest Americans can tie their wealth directly to being the fortunate son or daughter of wealthy parents. Now, to be fair, many of these people received the golden baton from their parents and managed to run even further with it – but the fact that they proved themselves to be good runners in their own right does not erase the reality that they began they race with a sizable head start.

What is there really to say about getting rich through inheritance? Nobody can choose their parents or grandparents, so it is not as though there is a "strategy" to becoming a wealthy heir/heiress. At most, people who have parents of some means can make sure that they are getting good advice and surrounding themselves with trustworthy people. Moreover, those who could find themselves inheriting a viable business may do well to take some interest in the business and the industry with an eye towards running it instead of seeing it sold.

The Business of Business
Overwhelmingly, those who do not inherit their money gain it through founding and running a company. A well-run business is an incredible wealth multiplier, as a collection of assets can produce many times its value in revenue, earnings and cash flow. Moreover, owning and operating a business brings with it the chance to use leverage (ie. "other people's money") to magnify and multiply the returns. In time, then, it really is possible to turn a small garage operation into a multi-billion dollar enterprise.

Clearly there are levels of nuance here as well – Bill Gates of Microsoft (Nasdaq:MSFT) and Warren Buffett of Berkshire Hathaway (NYSE:BRK.A) both grew up in fairly affluent families and it can be fairly argued that starting a business with a "backstop" is something different than truly risking poverty on a business idea. Nevertheless, the fact is they took advantage of their opportunities and made the most of them.

A kid from Philly or Detroit doen't have the same chances Bill Gates or Warren Buffet or Donald Trump did.

[Ender]

The welfare state incentivizes the break-up of families. And how much the family and parents value real education is probably the single best indicator of future success.

Absolutely.

The War on Poverty caused a huge problem in black families, breaking them up, rather than helping any poverty problems.

Also, people learn differently- this is why standardized education does not work. The British thought the Africans were dumb as a box of rocks until a few realized that the natives were very intelligent- they just learned in a different manner.

The hardest workers I have ever known are Hispanics- can't say the same for Asians or Jews.

[enhanced_deficit]

Causes are multiple, might not be as simplistic as AC assumes probably.

On a different note, I used to think Adam Corolla was a bright kid but changed my mind after seeing a youtube clip recently of him joing with BillOrielly in the "they hate us because we have freedoms" binge on Fox.

On another different note, I wonder if he drives Toyota Corolla.

[otherone]

There are many successful people in the underground economy. Government is hostile to start-up business, which is why many remain underground. If all of y'all want to continue making this a racial issue, one could claim that WHITE corporate America is responsible for all those pesky regulations that make it very difficult to start a small business. Of course, many of the established successful businesses didn't have to contend with all of the bureaucratic obstacles.

[Zippyjuan]

Causes are multiple, might not be as simplistic as AC assumes probably.

On a different note, I used to think Adam Corolla was a bright kid but changed my mind after seeing a youtube clip recently of him joing with BillOrielly in the "they hate us because we have freedoms" binge on Fox.

On another different note, I wonder if he drives Toyota Corolla.

He likes Datsun more. http://www.autoblog.com/2011/09/06/autoblog-gets-a-peek-inside-adam-carollas-private-garage/


Scattered throughout the room, bathed in natural light from large windows, we found a Datsun Camel GT pace car built by Bob Sharp parked next to a Paul Newman / Bob Sharp Racing IMSA 300ZX. A few feet away, sitting next to the tool cabinets with its rear wheels riding on rollers to ease movement around the shop, was a custom Datsun Roadster 1600 racer with radically-flared fenders in bright orange. (Adam hasn't raced each of these, and he may never, but he currently participates in his share of on-track competitions in his stunning Bob Sharp Datsun 610.)

Parked further back into the garage, but equally as impressive, are the Lamborghinis. We couldn't take our eyes off the 1967 Lamborghini 400 GT 2+2, with its 4.0-liter V12, or the Lamborghini Miura fitted with a transversely-mounted mid-engine V12 of the same displacement – pictures don't do these gorgeous Italians justice.

[enhanced_deficit]

He likes Datsun more. http://www.autoblog.com/2011/09/06/autoblog-gets-a-peek-inside-adam-carollas-private-garage/

Thank you, that clarifies the situation.

[Bastiat's The Law]

Adam took Gavin to the woodshed. Brutal.

[LibForestPaul]

There is an underclass because that is what the elites at the top need and want. Someone for the depressed middle class to vent upon. Happens in all statist societies.

[FrankRep]

A kid from Philly or Detroit doen't have the same chances Bill Gates or Warren Buffet or Donald Trump did.

Cop out.


http://g.christianbook.com/g/ebooks/covers/w185/3/332909_w185.png (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0310332907/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0310332907&linkCode=as2&tag=libert0f-20)



A remarkable book titled Gifted Hands (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0310332907/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0310332907&linkCode=as2&tag=libert0f-20) tells the personal story of Benjamin Carson, a black kid from the Detroit ghetto who went on to become a renowned neurosurgeon.


Gifted Hands (http://www.thenewamerican.com/reviews/opinion/item/14826-gifted-hands)


Thomas Sowell | The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
19 March 2013

[FrankRep]

A kid from Philly or Detroit doen't have the same chances Bill Gates or Warren Buffet or Donald Trump did.

Another example.


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51rdXSfjt6L._SL500_AA300_.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0817912541?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0817912541)

Up from the Projects: An Autobiography (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0817912541?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0817912541)
- Walter E. Williams




Walter Williams' autobiography Up from the Projects is the kind of book that you hate to put down, even though I already knew how the story would end.



Walter Williams' Memoir: Up from the Projects (http://www.thenewamerican.com/reviews/opinion/item/6149-walter-williams-memoir-up-from-the-projects)


Thomas Sowell | The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
08 December 2010

[ObiRandKenobi]

Another example.

http://www.humanevents.com/images/mygrandfathersson_440x668.jpg

[schiffheadbaby]

I think Zippyjuan likes Paul Krugman, not sure why he posts here but I guess he likes to troll.

[Seraphim]

the universe is racist....duh

[Warlord]

I think Zippyjuan likes Paul Krugman, not sure why he posts here but I guess he likes to troll.

Did he even support Ron Paul? He trolls every god damn thread!

[enhanced_deficit]

Another example.


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51rdXSfjt6L._SL500_AA300_.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0817912541?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0817912541)

Up from the Projects: An Autobiography (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0817912541?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0817912541)
- Walter E. Williams


Walter Williams' autobiography Up from the Projects is the kind of book that you hate to put down, even though I already knew how the story would end.



Walter Williams' Memoir: Up from the Projects (http://www.thenewamerican.com/reviews/opinion/item/6149-walter-williams-memoir-up-from-the-projects)


Thomas Sowell | The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
08 December 2010


Not surprisingly no one has picked this guy for illustration:

http://www.nrcc.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/golf-obama-club.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=obama+golf&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=KdVV_Q4sPshNzM&tbnid=V-Wk4EixxHd-wM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrcc.org%2F2013%2F02%2F15%2Fg uess-what-obama-is-doing-this-weekend%2F&ei=5oKuUanuF4e29gSfzoG4AQ&bvm=bv.47244034,d.eWU&psig=AFQjCNEKkFSZPKBM0sPC032jGEs5s4MTzQ&ust=1370477660830813)

[ObiRandKenobi]

Generally speaking, when jocks and/or hot chicks need to copy off somebody, first choice is an Asian chick. Preferably newly immigrated from Vietnam.

Last choice is the guy with the sideways hat wearing Air Jordans.

It's not race. It's culture.

The Vietnamese chick will be beaten by her parents if she doesn't ace.

[EBounding]

Another example.


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51rdXSfjt6L._SL500_AA300_.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0817912541?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0817912541)

I like this quote from Dr. Williams

Up from the Projects: An Autobiography (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0817912541?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0817912541)
- Walter E. Williams




Walter Williams' autobiography Up from the Projects is the kind of book that you hate to put down, even though I already knew how the story would end.



Walter Williams' Memoir: Up from the Projects (http://www.thenewamerican.com/reviews/opinion/item/6149-walter-williams-memoir-up-from-the-projects)


Thomas Sowell | The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
08 December 2010


Rules to Avoid Poverty, by Walter E. Williams


"Avoiding long-term poverty is not rocket science. First, graduate from high school. Second, get married before you have children, and stay married. Third, work at any kind of job, even one that starts out paying the minimum wage. And, finally, avoid engaging in criminal behavior. If you graduate from high school today with a B or C average, in most places in our country there's a low-cost or financially assisted post-high-school education program available to increase your skills."

[ObiRandKenobi]

"Avoiding long-term poverty is not rocket science. First, graduate from high school. Second, get married before you have children, and stay married. Third, work at any kind of job, even one that starts out paying the minimum wage. And, finally, avoid engaging in criminal behavior. "

Nah.

Several hundred billion more into education will fix this...

[Zippyjuan]

Cop out.


http://g.christianbook.com/g/ebooks/covers/w185/3/332909_w185.png (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0310332907/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0310332907&linkCode=as2&tag=libert0f-20)



A remarkable book titled Gifted Hands (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0310332907/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0310332907&linkCode=as2&tag=libert0f-20) tells the personal story of Benjamin Carson, a black kid from the Detroit ghetto who went on to become a renowned neurosurgeon.


Gifted Hands (http://www.thenewamerican.com/reviews/opinion/item/14826-gifted-hands)


Thomas Sowell | The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
19 March 2013

Yes, there are examples but fewer. Blaming or crediting race for success or failure is also a copout.

[Spikender]

Yes, there are examples but fewer. Blaming or crediting race for success or failure is also a copout.

...


Because they are starting out with more money.

...

So, you're admitting to being a cop out?

[ObiRandKenobi]

Yes, there are examples but fewer. Blaming or crediting race for success or failure is also a copout.

Not race. Culture.

Adam Carolla was NOT attributing the disparity to genetics.

[emazur]

Because they are starting out with more money.

Stossel has talked about how black Jamaicans who immigrate to America are an order of magnitude more successful as a group than black Americans and that the Jamaicans had a much more difficult time of obtaining government handouts and living on the dole b/c they were not Americans. I can dig around for the youtube if you want but hopefully someone else can post it. Living on the dole does bad things to people - just look at American Indians (what an example that is of Harry Browne's saying about the government breaks your legs, hands you a crutch, and says "See? if it weren't for the government you wouldn't be able to walk")

[CPUd]

http://i.imgur.com/GejCROb.gif

[Keith and stuff]

The way many Africans were selected to come here was pretty much the complete opposite.
Because of the evil hardships of the slave trade and slavery, the Africans with weak immune systems, deformities or weak bodies in general tended to die, be killed or not reproduce under those evil systems.

[talkingpointes]

I love when people put down blacks by saying they can't rise from poverty... Actually I don't but when you think about it, it's probably fitting for their closeted intentions of the person saying it.

Isn't America litterally based on rising from the ashes to become rich, prosperous, and happy.

Noo, not these people. Let's treat them like children. That won't back fire...

[talkingpointes]

Stossel has talked about how black Jamaicans who immigrate to America are an order of magnitude more successful as a group than black Americans and that the Jamaicans had a much more difficult time of obtaining government handouts and living on the dole b/c they were not Americans. I can dig around for the youtube if you want but hopefully someone else can post it. Living on the dole does bad things to people - just look at American Indians (what an example that is of Harry Browne's saying about the government breaks your legs, hands you a crutch, and says "See? if it weren't for the government you wouldn't be able to walk")

Exactly, it treats them like children, then when they begin acting like children (not working/looking for work) everyone is surprised. Same with all groups.

[talkingpointes]

Isn't it by definition being racist when you view a culture/race as being inferior?

[Keith and stuff]

It is up to the individual to define racism. There is only 1 human race so racism in a fictional concept that anyone is allowed to interpret as he wishes. So, if that is what you think, than sure. Although, I would agree that if you think a culture is inferior, than that is culturism.

[Antischism]

Isn't it by definition being racist when you view a culture/race as being inferior?

Yeah, it is.

The issue is cultural stereotypes and government keeping people impoverished with social programs, trying to make it seem like it's in their culture to be poor, while they destroy these countries and take their precious resources. When people attempt to move to America because their country becomes a shit-hole due to American foreign policy intervening and controlling the puppet governments, stealing their resources, it's no surprise they want to come to the U.S. where they're promised "freedom and prosperity," where "everyone can make it." It's all a ruse. It's bullshit.

Black and Latino people are disproportionately incarcerated by the drug war. They're fed this image by the media that their best chance of success is to become an athlete or a rap star, which often leads to a focus on those pursuits. Mainstream rap culture flashes success, money, drugs and women as the end result of being a pretend gangster. Those are their role models; that's what they see on the television. That's what's pushed in the media, and they have nowhere to turn when it's what they're surrounded by in their community. Why work a crappy minimum wage job when you can collect unemployment and make nearly the same amount while pursuing these dreams of stardom and money, or also selling drugs on the side?

You know what they called the black kids in my high school classroom who weren't into rap culture or dressing the part? Oreos. Black on the outside, white on the inside. It's already ingrained into their minds by society that black people are supposed to be poor, held back by government programs and years of slavery. They're not supposed to look into intellectual pursuits because that would make them "weak" and not "street" enough. It's human nature to want to fit in. If you move these same kids and raise them in an area that's affluent, regardless of skin color, they'll most likely thrive. Poverty is the problem, but it's a perpetuating cycle because government wants to keep the poor subservient and exactly where they are today.

[BlackTerrel]

Unfortunately there is a culture among many black kids growing up that working hard, studying, being successful is "white" and uncool. I actually think that's changing somewhat but it still exists in many places.

I grew up in many different school districts and it didn't matter how much money the school had or whatever - the biggest factor was parents who gave a shit and made their kids study.

I listen to Carolla a lot and his experiences are similar. He's also said on many occasions that both Jews and Asians and Indians do better than white people - that is true too. It's all education.

Go through Google, Facebook, Yahoo headquarters out here and take a look at the population - half of them are darker than me. Huge percent of Indians for what is less than 1% of US population. 25 year old kids worth a million bucks. It's hard work and education - that is all.

[BlackTerrel]

The issue is cultural stereotypes and government keeping people impoverished with social programs, trying to make it seem like it's in their culture to be poor, while they destroy these countries and take their precious resources. When people attempt to move to America because their country becomes a shit-hole due to American foreign policy intervening and controlling the puppet governments, stealing their resources, it's no surprise they want to come to the U.S. where they're promised "freedom and prosperity," where "everyone can make it." It's all a ruse. It's bullshit.

Are any countries poor of their own doing or is it always due to American foreign policy?

Honestly this sounds like the kids I grew up with - why try hard "the man" is going to keep us down. Why try hard America is going to keep us down.

If everyone just worried about their own shit and stopped trying to blame everyone else for their issues the world would be a better place.

[Giuliani was there on 911]

Asians and Jews have much higher IQs than blacks

[AuH20]

Isn't it by definition being racist when you view a culture/race as being inferior?

No, because culture isn't permanently fixed to the individual.

[ObiRandKenobi]

Isn't it by definition being racist when you view a culture/race as being inferior?

Culture isn't genetic.

[talkingpointes]

No, because culture isn't permanently fixed to the individual.

I'm not saying that to demagogue, but to point out how some seemed to approach the table. I agree culture doesn't define the individual, and that same individual should define themselves. But that is just an opinion essentially - we must just accept facts of how they are raised as being major factors in the creation of who they can be. (planting a seed in a minefield is how I think of it)

I know for a fact having both of my disfunctional parents is going to put me statistically overtime on a better path then say someone without a father or any local strong male figures. There can't just be some TV hero, but someone that directly interacts with them. Some people learn by seeing and feeling.

Are we surprised when a culture that has been so badly fractured by constant reeducation by reminder of their past ancestors that I honestly think it causes PTSD on certain levels. I have met or been around many people from many backrounds and someone that is constantly afraid of bodily harm is either going to protect themselves from it and be proactive, or they are going to isolate. That could be entirely bs, but there is something that seems to be eating at black culture and dividing them. I think it's people that can get over the propaganda and escape the government ghetto tit that it becomes internalized and they can break it. Pride has surrounded acceptance of it somewhat. No one wants to feel alien in their own home.

How would it feel to be descendent of someone that couldn't even of fought back? Then having that brought up constantly on end, and then having others around them create narratives on how they should think about it begins to sink it. I think it's like jewish people and the holocaust. I can see why many Israelis are so pro-war, they don't even have to think about it. Never again, should be "at any cost".

[BlackTerrel]

Asians and Jews have much higher IQs than blacks

Yeah that's not actually true.

[FrankRep]

A kid from Philly or Detroit doen't have the same chances Bill Gates or Warren Buffet or Donald Trump did.

Yes, there are examples but fewer. Blaming or crediting race for success or failure is also a copout.


Zippyjuan, I didn't blame or credit race for failure/copout. You did.

[kcchiefs6465]

Zippyjuan, I didn't blame or credit race for failure/copout. You did.
It isn't the race, it's the conditions they are born unto. (though some do rise above)

Being born in the projects, being fairly mediocre yourself, the drug trade may attract you. A street code of ethics seeming more legit than a class where the teacher does not care and the students by and large bully him. (the classes are disruptive to say the least) That is not to mention being considered a punk for always knowing the answer (where one might not say the answer even if they knew) or having hardened criminals in your class. You've seen these people outside of school. They're off the hook. One might try to assimilate before you are the next person getting robbed or shot at.

And it runs deep. Snitches get stitches is the ethics. The teacher is afraid of the class and people with no sense of morals or training are arguing and fighting over eachother.

The ones who make it out to be successful, they are few and far between. The football and basketball stars barely can make it out and even when doing so come right back. I'm simply trying to paint an honest picture of how it is in some of these neighborhoods. Some do rise above it all, some start smoking crack. Personal decisions sure, but I am not so sure if they were born elsewhere that they'd still be doing what they are doing.

A lot of things come together though. There isn't a simple solution that you could go and say, "Well that's it!"

I personally doubt it will ever change.

[jmdrake]

Asian and Cuban "boat people" started out with more money?

It takes quite a bit of money to go from Asia by boat to the U.S.

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Which is not determined by race as Corola tried to say. But having money means have more opportunities such as going to a good school or having capital to start a business or connections to borrow money from.

http://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0211/how-the-rich-got-that-way.aspx

How The Rich Got That Way


A kid from Philly or Detroit doen't have the same chances Bill Gates or Warren Buffet or Donald Trump did.

Warren Buffett was from Nebraska and his father was hardly that affluent (The late-great Howard Buffett). Anyways, sure, some people have more opportunities due to family circumstance than others. The point being made, as you've mentioned, is that a family-unit which is not dysfunctional gives more opportunities than one which is, which is the point Adam was trying to make. You make it here yourself, but fail to keep on going down the logic line, which...is a shame.

[kcchiefs6465]

It takes quite a bit of money to go from Asia by boat to the U.S.
That will one way or another eventually be paid off.

[Nobexliberty]

Because people of the mongloid race in america live in married family's perhaps. And jews i am to tired to explain

[Demigod]

The ones who make it out to be successful, they are few and far between. The football and basketball stars barely can make it out and even when doing so come right back. I'm simply trying to paint an honest picture of how it is in some of these neighborhoods. Some do rise above it all, some start smoking crack. Personal decisions sure, but I am not so sure if they were born elsewhere that they'd still be doing what they are doing.



I can relate to this.The basketball club I root for brought a black player from the USA, later it was understood that he came here mostly because his sister worked at the embassy so she tried to get him out of the ghettos.He did good for the first season,I could say he sorted his life.Now he did not have an NBA paycheck but he had a paycheck to afford to share a flat with a roommate and enough money to spend.

He started slacking season two,was let go.After he was fired he went back to the USA went in the drug business and a year later was dead.

[oyarde]

Which is not determined by race as Corola tried to say. But having money means have more opportunities such as going to a good school or having capital to start a business or connections to borrow money from.

http://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0211/how-the-rich-got-that-way.aspx

How The Rich Got That Way


A kid from Philly or Detroit doen't have the same chances Bill Gates or Warren Buffet or Donald Trump did.

I see your point, those pussy white boys, having not grown up in Philly will never get to know the satisfaction of voting for a bunch of democrats in place of dead people , three years before they are old enough to vote , in exchange for a case of beer, serious neglect there ....

[HigherVision]

Carolla had his sons circumcised so they'd have less trouble 'getting laid' and he also supports Israel/Zionism so I don't have much time for him. Oh and he's close friends with 'Dr.' Drew Pinsky. He's allied with all the right wing Pajamas Media fuckheads, not us.

[oyarde]

Carolla had his sons circumcised so they'd have less trouble 'getting laid' and he also supports Israel/Zionism so I don't have much time for him. Oh and he's close friends with 'Dr.' Drew Pinsky. He's allied with all the right wing Pajamas Media fuckheads, not us.

I do not even know the guy.

[TaftFan]

nm

[kcchiefs6465]

I do not even know the guy.
He's pretty funny.

Him and Jimmy Kimmel had a show on Comedy Central a while ago - The Man Show. It had some funny sketches.

[oyarde]

Well , this thread is starting to look like you have to be General Nelson Miles , who by 26 had been wounded four times , twice seriously, won a Medal and become a General ( still an asshole ), or the Kiowa , Comanche, Nez Perce , and later as a replacement for Gen Crook the Chiricahua Apache with Geronimo that he terrorized . Or 1st LT. Charles B Gatewood , the young , honest guy who got the old Apache to surrender ( he should have known better, being old & tired, just means fight harder ), but thoese terms would not be honored, by men of no Honor.

[Giuliani was there on 911]

Yeah that's not actually true.

yeah it actually is and it's not even debatable

[kcchiefs6465]

yeah it actually is and it's not even debatable
Source?

[ObiRandKenobi]

Adam: Cut off food stamps


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5C9hHDw7Pg

[mello]

I've seen documentaries about ghetto folk winning the lottery and being destitute in 2 to 3 years. Transgenerational success has more to do with the development of a pattern of thought and the establishment of certain values.

Approximately 30% of lottery winners piss it all away within 5 years.

[Antischism]

Source?

You mean his ass? Yeah, you wouldn't want to see his source if you value your dinner.

[heavenlyboy34]

He's pretty funny.

Him and Jimmy Kimmel had a show on Comedy Central a while ago - The Man Show. It had some funny sketches.
He was funny in the 90s. Not so much anymore.

[BlackTerrel]

I see your point, those pussy white boys, having not grown up in Philly will never get to know the satisfaction of voting for a bunch of democrats in place of dead people , three years before they are old enough to vote , in exchange for a case of beer, serious neglect there ....

Huh?


Carolla had his sons circumcised so they'd have less trouble 'getting laid' and he also supports Israel/Zionism so I don't have much time for him. Oh and he's close friends with 'Dr.' Drew Pinsky. He's allied with all the right wing Pajamas Media fuckheads, not us.

Carolla only has one son. He's pretty reasonable and libertarian on most issues - he also speaks his mind which I like. You're oversimplifying.

[BlackTerrel]

yeah it actually is and it's not even debatable

Then start. Tell me how smart and glorious white people are.