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sailingaway
06-02-2013, 08:54 PM
Britons warned to steer clear of Turkey as 1,700 protesters arrested after riots rock the country for a third day
-Protests erupted again today against Turkey's conservative government
-Thousands took to the streets in rallies and demonstrations in three cities
-Britons warned to avoid all but essential travel to parts of Turkey

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2334734/Britons-warned-steer-clear-Turkey-1-700-protesters-arrested-riots-rock-country-day.html#ixzz2V6jq1fDO

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The Foreign Office has warned against travel to various parts of Turkey except in cases of emergency following another day of rioting.
Tens of thousands took to the streets in the country’s four biggest cities yesterday – the third day of anti-government protests – with demonstrators clashing with riot police, who repelled them with tear gas.

The unrest initially erupted on Friday when trees were torn down at a park in Istanbul’s main Taksim Square under government plans to redevelop the area. But they have widened into a broad show of defiance against the Islamist-rooted Justice and Development Party (AKP).

Prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan blamed the main secular opposition party for inciting the crowds, and said the protests were aimed at depriving his ruling AK Party of votes as elections begin next year.

Erdogan said the plans to remake the square, long an iconic rallying point for mass demonstrations, would go ahead, including the construction of a new mosque and the rebuilding of a replica Ottoman-era barracks.

And he said the protests – which were started by a small group of environmental campaigners but mushroomed when police used force to eject them from the park on Taksim Square – had nothing to do with the plans.

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Turkish Interior Minister Muammer Guler yesterday said more than 1,700 people had been arrested in anti-government protests that have spread to 67 cities nationwide, though most have since been released.

'A large majority of the detainees were released after being questioned and identified,' he said in remarks carried by the state-run Anatolia news agency. He added that the country had seen 235 demonstrations since Tuesday.Meanwhile Britons are being urged to avoid trips to Turkey until the ongoing riots have dissipated.
The Foreign Office said on its website: ‘Demonstrations are taking place in Istanbul and in other cities across Turkey, including Ankara.
‘Police are using tear gas and water cannon in response. We advise British nationals to avoid all demonstrations.’

Police used tear gas on protesters in Ankara but the clashes so far today were relatively minor compared with major violence in Turkey's biggest cities on the previous two days.

Meanwhile Turkey's Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan accused the main secular opposition party of provoking the wave of anti-government protests.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2334734/Britons-warned-steer-clear-Turkey-1-700-protesters-arrested-riots-rock-country-day.html#ixzz2V6kX62L9

QueenB4Liberty
06-02-2013, 09:00 PM
That's just incredible.

sailingaway
06-02-2013, 09:13 PM
That's just incredible.

Yeah, there were earlier threads, this was after the first day - lots more pictures: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?416222-LIVE-UPDATES-Turkish-police-clamp-down-on-spreading-anti-government-protests

jim49er
06-02-2013, 09:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPQP3fQWTuQ&feature=youtu.be

sailingaway
06-02-2013, 10:25 PM
Taksim Square Protests: 13 Photos Showing Severity Of the Protests

http://www.policymic.com/articles/45849/taksim-square-protests-13-photos-showing-severity-of-the-protests

http://media1.policymic.com/site/articles/items/3813/1_image-large.jpg

oyarde
06-02-2013, 10:25 PM
Stay away is right. Place has been going downhill since the Anatolians were absorbed by Hittites , then Assyrians, later (maybe slighty improved )Greeks and Thracians, then the serious dropoff with the Persian Conquests of 6th/5th Centuries , Alexander in 323, then Rome by mid 1st Century. I would not put it on your vacation list , LOL.

sailingaway
06-02-2013, 10:34 PM
OCCUPY GEZI: POLICE AGAINST PROTESTERS IN ISTANBUL

context, by the New Yorker:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/occupy-istanbul-580.jpg


Gezi Park is a small rectangle of grass and trees just north of Taksim Square, in the center of European Istanbul. Separated by concrete barriers from a particularly congested traffic circle, it doesn’t have a lot going for it in the way of charm or landscaping. But it does have trees—six hundred and six of them, according to some reports—which makes it a distinct space in the heart of one of the world’s fastest-developing cities.

Last year, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan announced that Gezi Park would be levelled to make room for a reconstruction of the Halil Pasa Artillery barracks, which had been built there under Sultan Selim III, more than two hundred years ago; the reconstructed barracks would then be converted into a shopping mall. On May 28th, a peaceful demonstration convened in Gezi Park to protest the bulldozing of the first trees. The weather was, and continues to be, beautiful. But over the course of the week, Occupy Gezi transformed from what felt like a festival, with yoga, barbecues, and concerts, into what feels like a war, with barricades, plastic bullets, and gas attacks.

Just before dawn on Friday, police raided the demonstrators’ encampment with tear gas and compressed water. Several people—twelve, according to Istanbul’s governor H˙seyin Avni Mutlu, though participants say the number was higher—were hospitalized with head traumas and respiratory injuries. Twitter was flooded with images of violence, including one of a protester on his or her knees using a sign that read “CHEMICAL TAYYIP” as a shield against a police hose. Ahmet Sik, an investigative reporter who spent much of last year in jail, had joined the protests only to get hit in the head with a police gas canister.

I stopped by Gezi Park early Friday afternoon. It had been completely sealed off by police, hundreds of whom were standing inside the park in small groups, adjusting their body armor, snapping pictures of each other on their cell phones. Gas masks lay in the grass, as did a few trampled plastic forks and an abandoned tepsi börek (a phyllo pastry baked in a tray). Noticing a small crowd convened beside one of the barricades, I went over to see what they were doing. They didn’t seem to be doing anything.

Thinking the demonstration was winding down, I went back home and tried to work on my novel. The demonstration wasn’t winding down. Hundreds of thousands of demonstrators were flooding the streets. I texted the photographer Carolyn Drake, a friend and colleague. We covered our mouths with scarves and set out to meet each other. I started walking up Siraselviler, the street that connects Cihangir, where I live, to Taksim Square. It was packed shoulder-to-shoulder with demonstrators chanting anti-government slogans, some of them quite inventive. (When I asked about the meaning of one popular chant, “I’m sorry Tayyip but you look like a light bulb,” I was told that it alluded both to the light-bulb logo of Erdogan’s conservative Islamist A.K. Party, and to the shape of Erdogan’s head.)

I got as far as the German Hospital, where the crowd became too dense to penetrate. Carolyn meanwhile was stuck at the northern edge of the park. I never did meet her, though she’s been sending me the pictures she snaps from her cell phone. During the twenty minutes I spent standing in front of the hospital, two ambulances came careening in from Taksim. The crowds climbed up on walls to let the ambulances by, almost drowning out the sirens with their chants: “To your health, Tayyip!” Later, everyone started jumping up and down, chanting “Jump! Jump! Jump or you’re a fascist!” I, too, hopped up and down a little, to signal my disapproval of fascism. I tried to strike up conversation with a demonstrator, a young woman in her twenties with a surgical mask around her neck, but I could see I was interrupting her tweeting. In fact, I realized that almost every person there was either typing on a phone or recording the scene on a tablet.

Back in my apartment, I turned on the television. CNN Turk was broadcasting a food show, featuring the “flavors of Nigde.” Other major Turkish news channels were showing a dance contest and a roundtable on study-abroad programs. It was a classic case of the revolution not being televised. The whole country seemed to be experiencing a cognitive disconnect, with Twitter saying one thing, the government saying another, and the television off on another planet. Twitter was the one everyone believed—even the people who were actually on the street. In a city as vast, diffuse, and diverse as Istanbul, with so many enclaves and populations and interests and classes, and with such imperfect freedom of the press, gauging public opinion, or even current events, can be fantastically difficult. The Twitter hashtag #OccupyGezi brought up hundreds, maybe thousands of appeals urging BBC, Reuters, CNN, and other English-language news outlets to “show the world” what was happening in Istanbul—as if only the international media could do what the news is supposed to do: provide an objective view of what was going on outside.

The feeling of unreality and disconnect is at the heart of the Gezi demonstrations. Istanbul loves to demonstrate; I can’t remember ever walking through Taksim without seeing at least one march or parade or sit-in, and on weekends there are usually several going on at the same time. Usually, they are small, peaceful, and self-contained, and the police just stand there. For some time now, the demonstrations have had a strangely existential feel. Again and again, people have protested the destruction of some historical building or the construction of some new shopping center. Again and again, the historical building has been destroyed, and the shopping center constructed.

Nearly every slogan chanted on the streets right now addresses Erdogan by name, and Erdogan hasn’t been talking back much. On Wednesday, he told protesters, “Even if hell breaks loose, those trees will be uprooted”; on Saturday, he issued a statement accusing the demonstrators of manipulating environmentalist concerns for their own ideological agendas. It’s hard to argue with him there; there’s little doubt that the demonstrations are less about six hundred and six trees than about a spreading perception that Erdogan refuses to hear what people are trying to tell him. In recent weeks, he has overridden objections to the construction of a controversial third bridge across the Bosphorus, to be named after a sultan considered by some Turkish Alevis (members of a religious minority combining elements of Shi’ia Islam and Sufism) to be an “Alevi slayer.” Earlier this month, thousands of unionized Turkish Airlines workers went on strike to protest the firing of three hundred and five other unionized Turkish Airlines workers for participating in an earlier strike. The original workers were not rehired. Last week, he passed anti-alcohol laws, which outraged many secularists as well as the national beer manufacturers. On May Day, peaceful demonstrations were quashed by riot police with tear gas and hoses. Looking back, it seems inevitable that a larger uprising was to come.

So it wasn’t that surprising when yesterday’s court decision to suspend, at least temporarily, the construction at the park, failed to put an end to the demonstrations. At midnight, the street where I live was gas bombed. Demonstrators in gas masks and goggles marched below the windows, cheering “Spray! Spray! Let us see you spray!” Pepper gas poured through the open windows and immediately filled my seventh-floor apartment. Around one, a tremendous racket broke out as people all over the city started beating on cymbals, pots, pans, and metal street signs; I saw one man looking around in vain for a stick, and then cheerfully starting to bang his head against a metal storefront shutter.

I got in touch with members of Çarsi, the leftist fan club of Istanbul’s Besiktas soccer team; I’d written about them for the magazine in 2011. They had come up with a new slogan: “Give us 100 gas masks, we’ll take the park.” I asked Ayhan G˙ner, one of Çarsi’s senior members, what he had to say to New Yorker readers. “Çarsi is the last barricade. Çarsi keeps alive the hopes of the people in the resistance of Gezi Park,” he told me. “This resistance has inspired the leaders of Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe”—rival Istanbul soccer clubs—“to come together. Damn American imperialism to hell.” Fifteen minutes later, I got another text: “Pepper gas is the Besiktas fan’s perfume. Nobody can intimidate us”; and, shortly after that, “We are the soldiers not of the imam, but of Mustafa Kemal” (referring to Ataturk, the founder of the secular Turkish Republic).

This morning, forty thousand demonstrators are said to have crossed the Bosphorus Bridge from the Asian side of the city, to lend support in Taksim. Hundreds of backup police are reportedly being flown into Istanbul from all around the country. The conceptual artist Sibel Horada came by my neighborhood to pick up the gas mask she usually uses for casting polyester; she told me she ran into an old high-school friend who had dressed for the protests in shorts and Speedo swimming goggles. (“He had obviously never clashed with the police before.”) Shortly afterwards, she reported that police had briefly removed the barricades at Taksim and let the demonstrators in—then turned back and attacked them. On my street, spirits seem to be high. Someone is playing “Bella, Ciao” on a boom-box, and I can hear cheering and clapping. But every now and then the spring breeze carries a high, whistling, screaming sound, and the faint smell of pepper gas.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/06/occupy-taksim-police-against-protesters-in-istanbul.html?mbid=social_mobile_tweet

sailingaway
06-02-2013, 10:37 PM
Stay away is right. Place has been going downhill since the Anatolians were absorbed by Hittites , then Assyrians, later (maybe slighty improved )Greeks and Thracians, then the serious dropoff with the Persian Conquests of 6th/5th Centuries , Alexander in 323, then Rome by mid 1st Century. I would not put it on your vacation list , LOL.


I've been there, but I was mostly going to Greece. I don't remember if I saw this park.

oyarde
06-02-2013, 10:59 PM
I've been there, but I was mostly going to Greece. I don't remember if I saw this park.

I have been there too , I usually restricted myself to the country side as well as other places, cities are just for getting in and out.

UWDude
06-02-2013, 11:16 PM
Cops firing teargas into apartment windows, then running away:
very deadly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S-G2f323oE

anaconda
06-02-2013, 11:39 PM
For some reason I read the OP title as "Bitcoins warned to steer clear of Turkey.."

oyarde
06-02-2013, 11:48 PM
For some reason I read the OP title as "Bitcoins warned to steer clear of Turkey.."

I am sure bitcoins would enjoy some Turkish kebob .

dillo
06-03-2013, 12:41 AM
why are they rioting?

oyarde
06-03-2013, 12:48 AM
why are they rioting?

Variety , though mostly the usual leftists , starts over a park , trees , liquor restrictions then onto other things, I have not seen a" list of demads " .

sailingaway
06-03-2013, 12:53 AM
at this point it seems to be generally about his not listening to the people, and about the disproportionate response with violence to shut up protesters.. They are putting up 'fascist' posters.

puppetmaster
06-03-2013, 01:53 AM
For some reason I read the OP title as "Bitcoins warned to steer clear of Turkey.."


Lol I did also...

anaconda
06-03-2013, 03:33 AM
at this point it seems to be generally about his not listening to the people, and about the disproportionate response with violence to shut up protesters.. They are putting up 'fascist' posters.

Yeah, not a lot of specific grievances listed in the article. Perhaps it's a diverse and amorphous coalition, like the Tea Party or Occupy. The only grievances I saw in the article were "warnings about public displays of affection" and tighter restrictions on alcohol sales (not that either of these aren't more than just cause to revolt). This excerpt from the article did catch my eye, however: Concern that government policy is allowing Turkey to be dragged into the conflict in neighbouring Syria by the West has also led to peaceful demonstrations.

Warlord
06-03-2013, 04:43 AM
The tear gas Erdogan is using to suppress demonstrations is likely supplied by the US.

osan
06-03-2013, 05:20 AM
I suppose the good news in all this is that a secular movement is at the heart of this action against the idiot religious tyrant rather than the other way around.

Note once again how the stupidity of the tyrant turns what started as a fart into a mounting hurricane. These people are such imbeciles in that they have forgotten how to leave the pathetic mundanes a few crumbs with which to be happy. At this point it appears Theye are unwilling to leave us much scratch anymore. I can only wonder how this is going to work out in the longer run. I cannot see even those slaves who are well bred to the whip and whim of the master as being able to stand it much longer. It is my sincere hope that Theye indeed poison themselves with greed bred of impatience to have it all right now because that is the one error that could open a door of opportunity against them.

Even Theye cannot completely escape the effects of change. The sound-bite culture is sure to affect their thinking as well as ours and it is the insanity to which such factors have give rise that stands to take a chunk out of Theire better judgments. If Theye don't kill us all in the process, perhaps just enough of us who have managed to retain some vestige of sense against the creeping idiocracy may be able to get done something of substance.

As with stupidity and stoopidity, hope springs eternal.

jmdrake
06-03-2013, 05:26 AM
Turkey should quit meddling with Syria and get its own house in order. But that would make too much sense.

sailingaway
06-03-2013, 11:16 PM
this is not going away. From tonight:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BL4PemeCUAAjok9.jpg:large

https://twitter.com/AnonymousWWN/status/341727640115367936/photo/1

¤ProletarianDissent¤ ‏@Anon4justice 3h
The #Istanbul stock market has plunged 10.47 per cent as demonstrators #OccupyGezi... http://bit.ly/14cqX5W | Keep it up! #Pressure!

a compilation:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBsbv0Zrzoo&feature=youtu.be

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BL3SMXxCEAADoC2.jpg:large
https://twitter.com/Unidadpopular_a/status/341660256721571840/photo/1

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BL3u1BMCYAAIyqr.jpg:large
https://twitter.com/hikmetsir/status/341691741365231616/photo/1

UWDude
06-03-2013, 11:17 PM
LoL a reporter from haaretz tried to report there were "about 200 people" in Taksim park. What a wanker.

sailingaway
06-03-2013, 11:21 PM
The tear gas Erdogan is using to suppress demonstrations is likely supplied by the US.

Yeah, some pictures showed canisters with 'made in USA' on them

oyarde
06-03-2013, 11:21 PM
The tear gas Erdogan is using to suppress demonstrations is likely supplied by the US.

That would be made in Penn. if I recall.

sailingaway
06-03-2013, 11:30 PM
I don't understand the language and the translation function only helps with some of it, but the pictures are self explanatory: https://www.rebelmouse.com/OccupyGezi/
https://media.rbl.ms/image?u=%2Fmedia%2FBL3yAYwCAAEuHeW.jpg&ho=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com&s=713&h=4ec5715051b3f2bf56cfc4f84e0debe5116670ef6345848c 22947ee00b1bba0c&size=origin&c=2379347121

warning, graphic
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BL3fPTuCMAAAFoD.jpg:large
https://twitter.com/OCongress/status/341674600826023937/photo/1

https://media.rbl.ms/image?u=%2Ffc0243c4cccf11e2a0b722000ae911ee_7.jpg&ho=http%3A%2F%2Fdistilleryimage4.ak.instagram.com&s=286&h=8472dcfe857e98a227fea12728d0c69dc587b5c9250a6b17 49937fea7171daab&size=210x&c=2166609234

https://media.rbl.ms/image?u=%2Fmedia%2FBL3qxmZCcAAPtBm.jpg&ho=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com&s=921&h=8252c78bda2104d4d8d81230d29cdc1d76021ab558da96c7 97f8a9dec1b88785&size=origin&c=1053886201

Heather Marsh ‏@GeorgieBC 5h
Turkish Medical Assoc: at least 3,195 injured, 26 in serious or critical condition. http://ow.ly/lFrlZ #OccupyGezi #Turkey #occupyturkey

sailingaway
06-03-2013, 11:51 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BL3NAfPCAAAMqmu.jpg:large
https://twitter.com/boraerler/status/341654555014070272/photo/1

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BL3rn0uCUAAoHEj.jpg:large
https://twitter.com/57UN/status/341688216140795905/photo/1

sailingaway
06-04-2013, 12:26 AM
SulomeAnderson Sulome Anderson 9h
Protesters in #Ankara say police paint over ID numbers on their helmets to prevent identification #Turkey #occupygezi pic.twitter.com/XRQoqfojpJ
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BL3VHnRCIAA2xBO.jpg:large

UWDude
06-04-2013, 01:31 AM
SulomeAnderson Sulome Anderson 9h
Protesters in #Ankara say police paint over ID numbers on their helmets to prevent identification #Turkey #occupygezi pic.twitter.com/XRQoqfojpJ


Guess they'll have to hang them all.

KingRobbStark
06-04-2013, 02:06 AM
Most of those protesters want a government that would make even our liberals seem conservative. So I don't really give a shit what happens.

luctor-et-emergo
06-04-2013, 02:11 AM
Seriously, the news here had a piece on these demonstrations yesterday.
They went to talk to some people who support the government and concluded their segment with "it appears that it's not a big deal" or something like that.
Full propaganda mode here in Europe, Turkey WILL join the EU, ever news report on Turkey WILL be positive. It's so obvious yet nobody here sees it.

Warlord
06-04-2013, 02:15 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BL3SMXxCEAADoC2.jpg:large

Wow looks like they're giving him a good beating.... that'll send a message to the mundanes