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green73
06-01-2013, 09:22 AM
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has posted a bid (https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=2f1797093c18ff14a2cb4c2186c83677&_cview=0)on the Federal Business Opportunities site. They are buying up more ammunition and this time it is definitely not the typical caliber of bullet used by the military. The Government Accountability Office has already investigated (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/gao-homeland-security-ammunition/2013/04/30/id/502057) the Department of Homeland Security’s plans to purchase large amounts of ammunition. These large purchases of military rounds in the past has led to shortages of ammo for civilians and police departments (http://www.newsmax.com/US/homeland-security-ammo-shortage/2013/05/16/id/504901) around the country.



DHS claims that it is buying ammo in bulk to save money, but experts have pointed out that hollow point bullets cost nearly twice as much as full metal jacket rounds. They also explode on impact for maximum damage, which has caused some Americans to wonder what purpose they would serve the DHS domestically. Purchasing 1.6 billion rounds of ammo would also give DHS the means to fight the equivalent of a 24-year Iraq War. Members of Congress say the DHS has repeatedly refused (http://rt.com/usa/us-homeland-security-bullets-congress-703/) to tell them the purpose of procuring such large amounts of ammo.

The latest bid from DHS (https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=2f1797093c18ff14a2cb4c2186c83677&_cview=0) is requesting the following types of ammunition:

45 Long Colt – 250 gr. JHP total rounds 4000, 200, bx;
45 ACP 230GR JHP 1000 rounds per box total rounds 20,000, 20, mx;
22 LONG RIFLE CCI GREEN TAG COMPETITION RIMFIRE AMMUNITION total rounds 40,000, 400, bx;
30-30 160 gr. – this is being used for a Government gun. total rounds 4,680, 234, bx;
12 GAUGE #8 BIRDSHOT WINCHESTER AA LIGHT TARGET AA128 total rounds 20,00, 80, bx;
410 GAUGE #9 WINCHESTER AA TARGET AA4109 total rounds 10,000, 40, bx;
.357 MAGNUM 180 GRAIN JHP total rounds 6,000, 300, bx;
7.69X39MM 123 GRAIN total rounds 5,000, 250, bx;


cont
http://libertycrier.com/government/dhs-buying-more-ammo-lots-of-non-military-calibers/

WM_in_MO
06-01-2013, 10:09 AM
7.62 X 39? drying up the SKS market.

oyarde
06-01-2013, 10:24 AM
cont
http://libertycrier.com/government/dhs-buying-more-ammo-lots-of-non-military-calibers/

What would be the explanation for 4000 Long Colt , 40,000 22LR, 4680 30 30, 12 Ga #8's and .410 # 9's ? These guys have a Rod & Gun Club hidden away, or a hunting preserve , little quail hunting?

green73
06-01-2013, 10:28 AM
What would be the explanation for 4000 Long Colt , 40,000 22LR, 4680 30 30, 12 Ga #8's and .410 # 9's ? These guys have a Rod & Gun Club hidden away, or a hunting preserve , little quail hunting?

They are at war with self-reliance.

oyarde
06-01-2013, 11:05 AM
This sounds like a little tax funded recreation to me ....

ctiger2
06-01-2013, 11:16 AM
What would be the explanation for 4000 Long Colt , 40,000 22LR, 4680 30 30, 12 Ga #8's and .410 # 9's ? These guys have a Rod & Gun Club hidden away, or a hunting preserve , little quail hunting?


The explanation is simple. If they buy it, you can't. They have the ammo, you don't.

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
06-01-2013, 11:22 AM
They are at war with self-reliance.


And trading paper for hard assets while they still can?

oyarde
06-01-2013, 11:30 AM
The explanation is simple. If they buy it, you can't. They have the ammo, you don't.

It says it is for DHS Law Enforcement Training Center, sounds to me like it is for personal use for some people who work there. They have .410's and sporting clays at the training center ?

oyarde
06-01-2013, 11:34 AM
The explanation is simple. If they buy it, you can't. They have the ammo, you don't.

I would agree with that with the other orders I have seen previously , but not this one, quantities are too small .

oyarde
06-01-2013, 11:36 AM
They are at war with self-reliance.

That would be the US Govt in general at this point , I imagine.

mad cow
06-01-2013, 11:37 AM
This sounds like a little tax funded recreation to me ....

Yep,which is still wrong.
Of the five calibers on this list that I also own ammo in,I own at least one tenth as many rounds in every caliber and more rounds than they are buying here in one caliber.
But I pay for my own ammo.

oyarde
06-01-2013, 11:40 AM
Yep,which is still wrong.
Of the five calibers on this list that I also own ammo in,I own at least one tenth as many rounds in every caliber and more rounds than they are buying here in one caliber.
But I pay for my own ammo.

It is most definately wrong, I hope they get called on it.