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Anti Federalist
05-31-2013, 01:45 PM
And the parents...

I'm reminded of the idiots that lived in the next flat to Winston Smith in 1984.

What was their name??? Syme? Simington?

Well, that boy learned his lesson didn't he?



Cowboy-style cap gun gets 5-year-old suspended from school in Calvert County

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/cowboy-style-cap-gun-gets-5-year-old-ousted-from-school-in-calvert-county/2013/05/30/a3a8a178-c93c-11e2-9245-773c0123c027_story.html

By Donna St. George,

Published: May 30

A kindergartner who brought a cowboy-style cap gun onto his Calvert County school bus was suspended for 10 days after showing a friend the orange-tipped toy, which he had tucked inside his backpack on his way to school, according to his family and a lawyer.

The child was questioned for more than two hours before his mother was called, she said, adding that he uncharacteristically wet his pants during the episode. The boy is 5 — “all bugs and frogs and cowboys,” his mother said.

“I have no problem that he had a consequence to his behavior,” said the mother, who asked that her name be withheld to protect her son’s privacy.

“What I have a problem with is the severity,” she said, and the way it was handled.

The family’s attorney appealed the suspension late Thursday, asking that the action be reversed and the child’s record be expunged.

If the punishment stands, it would become part of the boy’s permanent school record and keep him out of classes the rest of the school year, the family said. He would miss his end-of-year kindergarten program at Dowell Elementary School in Lusby.

The issue will be examined at a disciplinary conference Friday.

Kim Roof, executive director of administration for Calvert schools, said she could not comment on the case but pointed out that such incidents are fully reviewed at disciplinary conferences to determine the most appropriate outcome.

The case comes at a time of heightened sensitivity about guns in schools across the country. Locally, children in first and second grade have been disciplined for pointing their fingers like guns and for chewing a Pop-Tart-like pastry into the shape of a gun. In Pennsylvania, a 5-year-old was suspended for talking about shooting a Hello Kitty bubble gun that blows soap bubbles.

In Calvert County, the trouble began Wednesday at 8:30 a.m. on a 10-minute bus ride to school.

According to the family, the boy’s friend had brought a water gun on the bus a day earlier. On Wednesday, unbeknown to his parents, the boy stowed his cap gun — from Frontier Town near Ocean City — inside his backpack as he left for school.

He told his mother after the incident that he had “really, really” wanted to show his friend.

The mother was called by the principal at 10:50 a.m. and was told that her son had the cap gun and pretended to shoot someone on the bus. She said that both the kindergartner and his first-grade sister, sitting nearby on the bus, disputed that account.

The mother said the principal told her that if the cap gun had been loaded with caps, it would have been deemed an explosive and police would have been called in.

The child’s disciplinary referral said he was being suspended for possession of a look-alike gun.

The child’s mother is a high school teacher in Calvert who said she strongly supports the school system and loves the teachers at her son’s school. She and her husband, who coaches youth sports, are active community volunteers.

For the family, a major concern is the long period the 5-year-old was questioned without parental guidance or support. His sister was questioned, too, she said.

“The school was quite obviously taking it very seriously, and he’s 5 years old,” she said. “Why were we not immediately contacted?”

The family’s attorney, Robin Ficker, said that the age of the child is important and that the incident could have been used as a teachable moment.

“Kids play cowboys and Indians,” he said. “They play cops and robbers. You’re talking about a little 5-year-old here.”

heavenlyboy34
05-31-2013, 01:49 PM
Imagine what would've happened if it was a water gun. That's a goddamn turr'ist weapon. :O I know, as I was a watergun terrorist at that age. :) ;) (srsly, though...this is another epic fail :( )

ETA: Winston Smith's neighbor was Syme

Christian Liberty
05-31-2013, 01:50 PM
The child’s mother is a high school teacher in Calvert who said she strongly supports the school system and loves the teachers at her son’s school. She and her husband, who coaches youth sports, are active community volunteers.


If they support the system, they are idiots...

sailingaway
05-31-2013, 01:52 PM
Assholes.

sluggo
05-31-2013, 01:54 PM
All of this over a cap gun. A CAP GUN.

This generation of children will either end up being total pansies or total basket cases thanks to the school system.

Pericles
05-31-2013, 01:55 PM
All of this over a cap gun. A CAP GUN.

This generation of children will either end up being total pansies or total basket cases thanks to the school system.

Of course, that is the intent.

phill4paul
05-31-2013, 01:57 PM
"Land of the Free." I no longer recognize it. That's a double entendre.

http://bangor-people.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Games-As-Kids-With-Guns.jpg

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRPsNv5QEK0R4B1dhtDuHay6Ja5K6dfT F61U6m0YSEa5NLyrFMbAA

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSkOyX6NdeOOEWGlLDSqAxLrGPkrq3HD uFU2mjyKJ0HPqjHBuLD7g

dannno
05-31-2013, 01:57 PM
The only two statements a child or parent should be making to school officials is:

"It's a CAP gun.."

and

"Do YOU know what a CAP gun is?"

Pericles
05-31-2013, 01:59 PM
"Land of the Free." I no longer recognize it. That's a double entendre.

http://bangor-people.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Games-As-Kids-With-Guns.jpg

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRPsNv5QEK0R4B1dhtDuHay6Ja5K6dfT F61U6m0YSEa5NLyrFMbAA

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSkOyX6NdeOOEWGlLDSqAxLrGPkrq3HD uFU2mjyKJ0HPqjHBuLD7g

Because it is no longer the home of the brave.

Anti Federalist
05-31-2013, 02:02 PM
Of course, that is the intent.

Exactly

angelatc
05-31-2013, 02:03 PM
I guess I'm different than you guys. I like watching them eat their own. I feel bad for the little boy. God didn't give him very good parents.

phill4paul
05-31-2013, 02:03 PM
Because it is no longer the home of the brave.

Sad but true. The efforts of progressives to create through indoctrination kinder, gentler, men has paved the way to mass slavery.

Pericles
05-31-2013, 02:04 PM
I guess I'm different than you guys. I like watching them eat their own. I feel bad for the little boy. God didn't give him very good parents.

I got the feeling that mom would have really been OK with it all had it not been her son.

Lucille
05-31-2013, 02:05 PM
That poor child.


The child was questioned for more than two hours before his mother was called, she said, adding that he uncharacteristically wet his pants during the episode. The boy is 5 — “all bugs and frogs and cowboys,” his mother said.

“I have no problem that he had a consequence to his behavior,” said the mother, who asked that her name be withheld to protect her son’s privacy.

“What I have a problem with is the severity,” she said, and the way it was handled.

The family’s attorney appealed the suspension late Thursday, asking that the action be reversed and the child’s record be expunged.

If the punishment stands, it would become part of the boy’s permanent school record and keep him out of classes the rest of the school year, the family said. He would miss his end-of-year kindergarten program at Dowell Elementary School in Lusby.

Because the GD kindergarten graduation is more important than the traumatic experience your beloved public schools just put your kid through, you stupid, statist cow?

Public school is child abuse.

Pericles
05-31-2013, 02:09 PM
That poor child.



Because the GD kindergarten graduation is more important than the traumatic experience your beloved public schools just put your kid through, you stupid, statist cow?

Public school is child abuse.

The public school system is a party organ.

phill4paul
05-31-2013, 02:11 PM
Glad I chose not to have kids. If this had happened to one of mine...well....Mr. Principal...

http://img.wareseeker.com/software/iphone/Entertainment/details_comic-book-punch_120041328.jpg

http://blog.typograffit.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/zonk.jpg

http://1.s3.envato.com/files/24625392/Comic_Graphics_Hits_PrevImage.jpg

erowe1
05-31-2013, 02:16 PM
I don't think the pant wetting necessarily means a lot.

But, even given that there was some rule against his having a cap gun there, I can't fathom how the number of questions anybody would feel the need to ask him about it could exceed maybe 3.

moostraks
05-31-2013, 02:34 PM
I don't think the pant wetting necessarily means a lot.

But, even given that there was some rule against his having a cap gun there, I can't fathom how the number of questions anybody would feel the need to ask him about it could exceed maybe 3.

If it was the parents grilling him and he was left to wet his pants they will be all over the parents for psychological damage. What in the world they grilled the poor thing for that long AND got his sister involved? Shame the parents are all about supporting that system.

Lucille
05-31-2013, 02:35 PM
Glad I chose not to have kids. If this had happened to one of mine...well....Mr. Principal...



I have kids, and I'd be in jail for assault and battery.

Anti Federalist
05-31-2013, 03:51 PM
I don't think the pant wetting necessarily means a lot.

But, even given that there was some rule against his having a cap gun there, I can't fathom how the number of questions anybody would feel the need to ask him about it could exceed maybe 3.

Perhaps you never saw a small child terrorized by a screaming adult to the point of wetting themselves.

I have, and it was awful.

jclay2
05-31-2013, 03:59 PM
I feel for these parents, but I really wish someone would call out these thugs for who they are. I know they are thinking of the child and want to get the record clean first and foremost, but this is freaking absurd. If this happened to my son or daughter, I would get every newspaper possible on this story and at the minimum cuss the principle out. Yeah it probably wouldn't help the situation, but people need to get angry. Interrogating a child until he wets himself...since when did your neighborhood school become Guantanamo bay?

James Madison
05-31-2013, 04:20 PM
All of this over a cap gun. A CAP GUN.

This generation of children will either end up being total pansies or total basket cases thanks to the school system.

Just wait until they start having kids.

Anti Federalist
05-31-2013, 04:42 PM
Public school is child abuse.


The public school system is a party organ.

/Thread, as far as I'm concerned.

tod evans
05-31-2013, 04:43 PM
Perhaps you never saw a small child terrorized by a screaming adult to the point of wetting themselves.

I have, and it was awful.

Adults who behave in the manner described deserve an ass-whuppin'...

And this is coming from a parent who spanks their child..

madengr
05-31-2013, 04:44 PM
Ever see the movie "Lives of Others" where people would pee their pants under Stasi interrogation? Then the Stasi would wipe the stain with a cloth to obtain a sample and file it away, for later use with tracking dogs should you try to flee East Germany.

69360
05-31-2013, 04:48 PM
This whole cap/water/finger/bubble gun thing with kids is out of control.

How do we stop all this?

tod evans
05-31-2013, 04:51 PM
This whole cap/water/finger/bubble gun thing with kids is out of control.

How do we stop all this?

Simple cut ALL federal funding...

When the people in a community foot the bill to educate their kids all the BS will magically disappear.

Anti Federalist
05-31-2013, 04:53 PM
Adults who behave in the manner described deserve an ass-whuppin'...

And this is coming from a parent who spanks their child..

Same here, and that was a family member, who has since been shunned.

I don't hit women, but I could have, that day.

Anti Federalist
05-31-2013, 04:56 PM
Simple cut ALL federal funding...

When the people in a community foot the bill to educate their kids all the BS will magically disappear.

How about cut it all, since one of the worst taxations out there is property taxation which almost universally is used to do what...?

Fund the indoctrination centers.

Just like healthcare, there has been so much government tomfuckery involved, you can't even begin to peg what it really should cost.

tod evans
05-31-2013, 04:58 PM
Same here, and that was a family member, who has since been shunned.

I don't hit women, but I could have, that day.

That's why you're married, so you wife can whup her ass...(Ducks)

tod evans
05-31-2013, 05:00 PM
How about cut it all, since one of the worst taxations out there is property taxation which almost universally is used to do what...?

Fund the indoctrination centers.

Just like healthcare, there has been so much government tomfuckery involved, you can't even begin to peg what it really should cost.

I'm all for it!

Towns/counties that fail to treat their population fairly need to suffer not be subsidized..

seapilot
05-31-2013, 06:55 PM
Public schools are not about learning they are about obeying.

Any creative or independent act is viewed as a threat to the system and will be punished severely. Its not the cap gun which in itself is not physically dangerous, it is the cap gun is a representation which is dangerous to a socialist ideology.

Warrior_of_Freedom
05-31-2013, 07:06 PM
Imagine what would've happened if it was a water gun. That's a goddamn turr'ist weapon. :O I know, as I was a watergun terrorist at that age. :) ;) (srsly, though...this is another epic fail :( )

ETA: Winston Smith's neighbor was Syme

Imagine what would happen if it were actually a REAL gun. They'd burn the child on a stake, call the Marines, search the parent's home, burn the home down for good measure, and put them all on the do not fly list

Brian4Liberty
05-31-2013, 07:13 PM
If it was the parents grilling him and he was left to wet his pants they will be all over the parents for psychological damage.

CPS would take the children away. And put them in a temporary home to be sexually abused.

Anti Federalist
05-31-2013, 07:14 PM
Imagine what would happen if it were actually a REAL gun. They'd burn the child on a stake, call the Marines, search the parent's home, burn the home down for good measure, and put them all on the do not fly list

And shoot the family dog on the way out the (battering rammed) front door...