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RonPaulFanInGA
05-31-2013, 12:51 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/29/Obama-To-Sign-International-Gun-Control-Treaty-On-June-3rd

Zippyjuan
05-31-2013, 01:02 PM
The treaty opens for countries to start signing it on that day but this is the only source I can find which says Obama will sign it then. Others say "as soon as" June 3rd, others "in the next few months". Even if he does sign it, it will still have to be ratified by the Senate.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/12/opinion/tell-the-truth-about-the-arms-trade-treaty.html


Yet now, just days after the United Nations’ 154-to-3 vote, top United States officials are already hedging on whether President Obama will sign the treaty when it opens for signature at the United Nations on June 3 — let alone whether the United States will ratify it, an act that would require the approval of two-thirds of the Senate.

Sending such mixed signals is a grave mistake. The Arms Trade Treaty is consistent with America’s national security interests, foreign policy goals, business interests and moral traditions, which is why United States negotiators worked so hard to create it.

So what’s behind the foreboding whispers? Some truly cynical domestic politics, it would appear.

Those opposed to the accord have misrepresented what it does, suggesting that it would somehow infringe on American gun owners’ rights. It would do nothing of the kind.

The treaty applies only to international transfers of conventional arms and, in fact, reaffirms “the sovereign right of any State to regulate and control conventional arms” within its territory. The treaty’s preamble also makes specific reference to the legitimate trade, lawful ownership and use of certain conventional arms for recreational, cultural, historical and sporting activities.

Pericles
05-31-2013, 01:58 PM
Let's get it on.

Warlord
05-31-2013, 02:51 PM
Anyone notice how Zippy tries to "debunk" everything?

Concern troll.

Obama is a ONE WORLD GLOBALIST socialist piece of filth!

Rand Paul is right.

Seraphim
05-31-2013, 02:53 PM
He is a troll but he is a good one. He doesn't try to enrage people with stupid BS. He provides conflicting data points so people think about their positions.


Anyone notice how Zippy tries to "debunk" everything?

Concern troll.

Obama is a ONE WORLD GLOBALIST socialist piece of filth!

Rand Paul is right.

Seraphim
05-31-2013, 02:53 PM
If Obama signs this he is a traitor to the USA.

ZENemy
05-31-2013, 02:55 PM
If Obama signs this he is a traitor to the USA.

Signing the NDAA didnt already do that?

Warlord
05-31-2013, 02:56 PM
He is a troll but he is a good one. He doesn't try to enrage people with stupid BS. He provides conflicting data points so people think about their positions.

Look up the term "concern troll" and you'll almost see a picture of Zippyjuan

LibertyEagle
05-31-2013, 02:59 PM
If Obama signs this he is a traitor to the USA.

I think he has passed that goalpost a long time ago.

Seraphim
05-31-2013, 02:59 PM
I know he is already, but it further cements the point and argument for those who still do not see it.


Signing the NDAA didnt already do that?

Seraphim
05-31-2013, 02:59 PM
No doubt.


I think he has passed that goalpost a long time ago.

Zippyjuan
05-31-2013, 03:02 PM
Look up the term "concern troll" and you'll almost see a picture of Zippyjuan

Link? I want to see if they got my good side. Thanks!

(It is true that I do post when I disagree on something but I don't often post when I do agree so this may tend to re-enforce the idea that I am merely a contrarian).

ctiger2
05-31-2013, 03:23 PM
Anyone notice how Zippy tries to "debunk" everything?

Normalcy bias is very very strong in some people. I've been working on a guy since 08 and he still refuses to grasp the real reality.