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Warlord
05-30-2013, 10:58 PM
It’s Cloward-Piven (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/theclowardpivenstrategypoe.html) on steroids.

Illegal immigrant and mother of seven, Marita Nelson, receives $240 in food stamps, monthly medications, $700 in Social Security and a housing allowance.

She entered the US by swimming the Rio Grande and has been on government assistance for 20 years.

No doubt, an Obama supporter…

Now she’s on a crusade to help other illegals sign up for their free stuff.

You just can’t make this stuff up!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBpEysmJ62Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBpEysmJ62Q

For the record… The Obama administration is paying recruiters (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/04/its-an-obama-world-white-house-pays-recruiters-to-sign-up-people-on-food-stamps/) to sign up more people on food stamps.

H/T: GatewayPundit (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/05/unreal-illegal-immigrant-mother-of-seven-given-food-stamps-meds-housing-and-social-security-video/)

CPUd
05-30-2013, 11:10 PM
http://i.imgur.com/XNe8W4y.jpg

Brian4Liberty
05-30-2013, 11:27 PM
It’s Cloward-Piven (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/theclowardpivenstrategypoe.html) on steroids.



Good old Cloward-Piven. What comes after that? Marxist Utopia?

Warlord
05-30-2013, 11:50 PM
All three of these organizations -- ACORN, Project Vote and Human SERVE -- set to work lobbying energetically for the so-called Motor-Voter law, which Bill Clinton ultimately signed in 1993. The Motor-Voter bill is largely responsible for swamping the voter rolls with "dead wood" -- invalid registrations signed in the name of deceased, ineligible or non-existent people -- thus opening the door to the unprecedented levels of voter fraud and "voter disenfranchisement" claims that followed in subsequent elections.

The new "voting rights" coalition combines mass voter registration drives -- typically featuring high levels of fraud -- with systematic intimidation of election officials in the form of frivolous lawsuits, unfounded charges of "racism" and "disenfranchisement," and "direct action" (street protests, violent or otherwise). Just as they swamped America's welfare offices in the 1960s, Cloward-Piven devotees now seek to overwhelm the nation's understaffed and poorly policed electoral system. Their tactics set the stage for the Florida recount crisis of 2000, and have introduced a level of fear, tension and foreboding to U.S. elections heretofore encountered mainly in Third World countries.

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Hmm dont forget that Obama appointed a commission to Federalize elections.

Anti Federalist
05-31-2013, 12:19 AM
http://i.imgur.com/XNe8W4y.jpg

*ran

*used

Grack...

ObiRandKenobi
05-31-2013, 12:55 AM
How do these people figure out where to go, what forms to fill out?

enhanced_deficit
05-31-2013, 01:05 AM
US is facing a double , tripple whammy of expenses. One one hand we have unexpeced guests fleecing hundered of dollars on lots of children domestically and on other hand we have expected fleecers like McCain help get trillions of dollars being spent on oppressing/killing people like this woman in other countries.
Taxpayers grandchildren are going to wake with lot of debt.

Warlord, doing a great job staying vigilant on all fronts.

Warlord
05-31-2013, 01:18 AM
How do these people figure out where to go, what forms to fill out?


"navigators". The president used to be one LOL... "community organizer"? That's what they do. Sign people up to stuff and agitate/

They're hiring like 100,000 for Obamacare!

http://washingtonexaminer.com/tens-of-thousands-obamacare-navigators-to-be-hired/article/2526167

oyarde
05-31-2013, 01:18 AM
How do these people figure out where to go, what forms to fill out?

She lives in Fla they are aggressive to help them seek tax funded assistance , and nothing else....

oyarde
05-31-2013, 01:19 AM
"navigators". The president used to be one LOL... "community organizer"? That's what they do. Sign people up to stuff and agitate/

They're hiring like 100,000 for Obamacare!

"Used to be" ?

oyarde
05-31-2013, 01:20 AM
US is facing a double , tripple whammy of expenses. One one hand we have unexpeced guests fleecing hundered of dollars on lots of children domestically and on other hand we have expected fleecers like McCain help get trillions of dollars being spent on oppressing/killing people like this woman in other countries.
Taxpayers grandchildren are going to wake with lot of debt.

Warlord, doing a great job staying vigilant on all fronts.

My War Lord will be like a Rock .

Warlord
05-31-2013, 01:21 AM
"Used to be" ?

Yeah I suppose he's now the head of an aggressive sign-everyone-up-to-welfare-to-get-them-to-vote-Democrat-and-collapse-it-all program

alucard13mm
05-31-2013, 01:37 AM
Why don't we just let this country collapse so these people can go elsewhere?.. Hell maybe they can go into Canada.

ObiRandKenobi
05-31-2013, 02:03 AM
"navigators". The president used to be one LOL... "community organizer"? That's what they do. Sign people up to stuff and agitate/

They're hiring like 100,000 for Obamacare!

http://washingtonexaminer.com/tens-of-thousands-obamacare-navigators-to-be-hired/article/2526167

Yeah that makes sense.

Anytime I deal with the gov't it's forms on top of forms on top of forms on top of forms...hard to believe these people could figure it out for themselves.

jtstellar
05-31-2013, 04:24 AM
would 'two wrong doesn't make a right', 'wrong welfare system doesn't mean we need a wrong immigration system too', 'open borders now' Libertarians care to address this?

i mean after all that was the reason some supported johnson over paul in 2012

tod evans
05-31-2013, 05:03 AM
Child support too!

Paid to breed and enforced by the government.

Can't keep going like this much longer......

juleswin
05-31-2013, 05:04 AM
But the liberals would swear up and down that there is no way illegals can qualify for food stamps or other govt welfare programs but there you have it, illegals applying and qualifying for govt welfare. Remember this when they tell you that there is no way illegals can vote in the elections.

tod evans
05-31-2013, 05:10 AM
It's not just illegals there's an entire class of government subsidized voters...

There's got to be a way to shut down their printing presses..

Seraphim
05-31-2013, 05:17 AM
How these people live with themselves, I do not know.


It's not just illegals there's an entire class of government subsidized voters...

There's got to be a way to shut down their printing presses..

green73
05-31-2013, 05:19 AM
And somewhere an oligarch chortles...

Seraphim
05-31-2013, 05:23 AM
It's amazing how many people put the PROLE hat onto themselves.


And somewhere an oligarch chortles...

tod evans
05-31-2013, 05:23 AM
The workers are paying for their own demise....

How foolish is that?

Warlord
05-31-2013, 06:11 AM
Child support too!

Paid to breed and enforced by the government.

Can't keep going like this much longer......

It's a powder keg ready to explode.

Do hard working., blue collar unionized Democrats support this? So people like Schumer can colonize America?

This is surely going to have massive political ramifications.

tod evans
05-31-2013, 06:18 AM
It's a powder keg ready to explode.

Do hard working., blue collar unionized Democrats support this? So people like Schumer can colonize America?

This is surely going to have massive political ramifications.

Oh, it's been building steam since the 70's......

With each generation come new "improvements" to a system designed to fail..

But this time they'll get it right..:rolleyes:

LibertyEagle
05-31-2013, 06:22 AM
Yeah that makes sense.

Anytime I deal with the gov't it's forms on top of forms on top of forms on top of forms...hard to believe these people could figure it out for themselves.

I remember reading several years ago that the Mexican government hands out packets that contain information on what to do and where to go for their citizenry to avail themselves of all the American freebies once they illegally arrive in the U.S.

Seraphim
05-31-2013, 06:46 AM
And thanks to NAFTA there are no trade ramifications that can be implemented to boycott Mexican goods.


I remember reading several years ago that the Mexican government hands out packets that contain information on what to do and where to go for their citizenry to avail themselves of all the American freebies once they illegally arrive in the U.S.

angelatc
05-31-2013, 07:06 AM
*ran

*used

Grack...

No, I think it means he does it all the time. This particular time he messed up the wall.

BAllen
05-31-2013, 08:06 AM
How these people live with themselves, I do not know.

Just fine. Marxists believe: Take from those with the ability, give to those in need.
I don't see how Libertarians can support open borders under current conditions. Oh, that's right. More people means more jobs! Yay!
We need an alligator relocation program. Those poor gators are being killed in Florida. They should be spared, and relocated to the Rio Grande river.

sluggo
05-31-2013, 08:07 AM
I wonder who is funding the welfare recruiters in the video?

tod evans
05-31-2013, 08:08 AM
I wonder who is funding the welfare recruiters in the video?

We are.

sluggo
05-31-2013, 08:09 AM
It said they were "privately funded."

tod evans
05-31-2013, 08:11 AM
It said they were "privately funded."

I don't believe them...

Could be private funding from the recipient of a federal grant or some such..

sluggo
05-31-2013, 08:16 AM
You might be right.

Cleaner44
05-31-2013, 08:19 AM
Ok, here's what we do... find a navigator to find us federal funding for our R3VOLUTION. McCain will probably even support us if will fill out the paperwork right. We are rebels in a R3VOLUTION and we need aid and supplies from the U.S. government.

Remember this guy?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b7/MattLesko-cropped.jpg/200px-MattLesko-cropped.jpg

All we need to do is use the federal government's own weight against them by taking advantage of every program out there. We will bankrupt the system and fund our R3VOLUTION to the hilt! It's a fool proof plan, it can't fail!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPC3mLNL3B0

tod evans
05-31-2013, 08:20 AM
You might be right.

I certainly have no first-hand knowledge......

But........."They" have priors..

angelatc
05-31-2013, 08:45 AM
I read in another article that the recruiters are paid by the State of Florida, who want that Federal money to be spent in their state. They live off of sales tax, not income tax.

tod evans
05-31-2013, 08:49 AM
They live off of sales tax, not income tax.

Front-tit.

Hind-tit.

They're still suckin'..

RonPaulFanInGA
05-31-2013, 08:59 AM
The answer is: amnesty for illegals.

HOLLYWOOD
05-31-2013, 09:00 AM
Federal Public Housing Assistance / aka Section 8 Housing
Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) Food Stamps: Community Food and Nutrition Program
Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP)
Supplemental Security Income (SSI)
National School Lunch (free program only)
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF)
Medicaid
Bureau of Indian Affairs Programs (Tribal Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, Head Start Subsidy, NSLP)
Eligible for Free or very inexpensive high-speed broadband internet (CheapInternet.com)
Eligible for Free or very inexpensive powerful computers $150 & MSFT provides new PC school-lunch families for $250
Obama Phone free phone and 1145 minutes/month for $6.49 or 500 minutes for free free voicemail
Home land lin/Lifeline Free/discounted
A conversion vanis any disabilities
3 different Homestead Exemptions in Florida, maybe a habitat for humanity house
Discounted or Free Home Utilities (Electric, Water, Gas, Heating Oil)
Free Educational Software
Tuition Free Educational programs
Community Services Block Grant
Head Start
Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP)
PARTS of Medicaid ( eligibles vary)
Hill-Burton Uncompensated Services Program
AIDS Drug Assistance Program
Children’s Health Insurance Program
Medicare – Prescription Drug Coverage (subsidized portion only)
Community Health Centers
Migrant Health Centers
Family Planning Services
Health Professions Student Loans — Loans for Disadvantaged Students
Health Careers Opportunity Program
Scholarships for Health Professions Students from Disadvantaged Backgrounds
Job Opportunities for Low-Income Individuals
Assets for Independence Demonstration Program
Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC)
National School Lunch Program (for free and reduced-price meals only
School Breakfast Program (for free and reduced-price meals only)
Child and Adult Care Food Program (for free and reduced-price meals only)
Expanded Food and Nutrition Education Program
Weatherization Assistance for Low-Income Persons
Job Corps
National Farmworker Jobs Program
Senior Community Service Employment Program
Workforce Investment Act Youth Activities
US Treasury Low-Income Taxpayer Clinics
Corp/National and Community Service Foster Grandparent Program
Senior Companion Program
Legal Services for the Poor

Seraphim
05-31-2013, 09:05 AM
I don't buy it.

I am a firm believer that MOST Marxists are self-loathing. They may not run around screaming it, but it fits. People with ability who willfully make themselves dependant are miserable and depressed with very few exceptions.


Just fine. Marxists believe: Take from those with the ability, give to those in need.
I don't see how Libertarians can support open borders under current conditions. Oh, that's right. More people means more jobs! Yay!
We need an alligator relocation program. Those poor gators are being killed in Florida. They should be spared, and relocated to the Rio Grande river.

nobody's_hero
05-31-2013, 09:41 AM
I don't buy it.

I am a firm believer that MOST Marxists are self-loathing. They may not run around screaming it, but it fits. People with ability who willfully make themselves dependant are miserable and depressed with very few exceptions.

I don't know, bro. She seemed to take on the burden of free stuff rather nonchalantly.

Pericles
05-31-2013, 09:41 AM
I don't buy it.

I am a firm believer that MOST Marxists are self-loathing. They may not run around screaming it, but it fits. People with ability who willfully make themselves dependant are miserable and depressed with very few exceptions.

There is a key difference between Marxists and the typical socialist. Marxists are smart enough not to believe their own propaganda, and are in it for the power.

BAllen
05-31-2013, 01:10 PM
There is a key difference between Marxists and the typical socialist. Marxists are smart enough not to believe their own propaganda, and are in it for the power.

So, what we have is Marxists in authority, and socialists in the peasant class. They're just useful idiots, and don't even know it.

Anti Federalist
05-31-2013, 01:22 PM
Fed, entertained and exercise petty power.

Pericles
05-31-2013, 01:54 PM
So, what we have is Marxists in authority, and socialists in the peasant class. They're just useful idiots, and don't even know it.

Yes, socialists can be useful party organs.

devil21
05-31-2013, 02:02 PM
I just watched a woman that couldn't speak a word of english with 4 kids under 5 years old in tow whip out her "stars and stripes" EBT card at the gas station to buy $40 worth of complete junk food (about 10 various sodas, slim jims, popsicles, candy, doritos, etc) for the kids. This was right after I ate (on my own dime) at a favorite restaurant that just raised their meal prices about 20 percent because of food cost increases. Really pissed me off.

Warlord
05-31-2013, 04:17 PM
Mark Levin is covering this.

Warlord
05-31-2013, 04:18 PM
With one "app" they can test eligibility for 11 different Federal programs.

HOLLYWOOD exposed more than that.

BAllen
05-31-2013, 04:58 PM
I just watched a woman that couldn't speak a word of english with 4 kids under 5 years old in tow whip out her "stars and stripes" EBT card at the gas station to buy $40 worth of complete junk food (about 10 various sodas, slim jims, popsicles, candy, doritos, etc) for the kids. This was right after I ate (on my own dime) at a favorite restaurant that just raised their meal prices about 20 percent because of food cost increases. Really pissed me off.

Of course. The Demonrats bribing more voters.

tod evans
05-31-2013, 05:02 PM
Of course. The Demonrats bribing more voters.

It ain't just democrats...

At this point it's "government".

Carson
05-31-2013, 08:26 PM
Funny that this sort of thing is the norm now.

Well not so much when you stop to consider that we don't have any money to pay for this sort of thing. We have to borrow every cent from the central banks. When one stops to consider that, it isn't to far of a stretch to consider that some with the ability to fire up the fake money presses, and also a way to profit by the practice, just might come up with a way of getting willing politicians into office.

We went off of the gold standard about fifty years ago. Some of us have seen the whole world and the common sense way of doing things flipped on its head.


An old saying was, "He who has the gold makes the rules." I'm thinking they actually used to come to us. Now they have all of the approved answers for everything but their gold that backs them is from ill-gotten gains. You really can't expect much from that kind of relationship.

I remember when we actually did have a government. Now they have us.

VVVVV If you haven't checked out the Super Dollar below maybe now is a good time to give it a gander.

aGameOfThrones
05-31-2013, 11:24 PM
I just watched a woman that couldn't speak a word of english with 4 kids under 5 years old in tow whip out her "stars and stripes" EBT card at the gas station to buy $40 worth of complete junk food (about 10 various sodas, slim jims, popsicles, candy, doritos, etc) for the kids. This was right after I ate (on my own dime) at a favorite restaurant that just raised their meal prices about 20 percent because of food cost increases. Really pissed me off.

You're the very reason I promote this site.



http://www.foodstampscovers.com/img/p/2/2/22-large.jpg

http://www.foodstampscovers.com/index.php

oyarde
05-31-2013, 11:29 PM
I just watched a woman that couldn't speak a word of english with 4 kids under 5 years old in tow whip out her "stars and stripes" EBT card at the gas station to buy $40 worth of complete junk food (about 10 various sodas, slim jims, popsicles, candy, doritos, etc) for the kids. This was right after I ate (on my own dime) at a favorite restaurant that just raised their meal prices about 20 percent because of food cost increases. Really pissed me off.

Well ,if you were that mad, snag a bag of chips from her, get some of your money back , lol, I will take some Fritos or Cheetos :)

DamianTV
06-01-2013, 01:11 AM
How do these people figure out where to go, what forms to fill out?

Usually the Govts of the countries they are coming from tell them exactly how to take advantage of the US systems. I know I try to be funny at totally wrong times, but this is not one of of those times. Their own govts teach them how to emigrate to the US.

Carson
06-01-2013, 01:43 AM
How do these people figure out where to go, what forms to fill out?

I heard about a lady politician that thought it would be nice to run advertising in Spanish to help people figure it out. I think she was in or from around San Diego.

There are people just like her all over for hire.

devil21
06-01-2013, 03:01 AM
Well ,if you were that mad, snag a bag of chips from her, get some of your money back , lol, I will take some Fritos or Cheetos :)

So I could then go to jail for "stealing" her chips and end up as the poster child for "greedy" white people stealing out of kid's mouths according to the liberal local media? No thanks. It was all I could do to keep my mouth shut in the first place. With about 40% of the population being on public assistance it's dangerous to speak up in gas stations and supermarkets, especially in "transitional" areas like this one.

HOLLYWOOD
06-01-2013, 03:31 AM
With one "app" they can test eligibility for 11 different Federal programs.

HOLLYWOOD exposed more than that. :DThis is on top on income tax/payroll taxes... it's the UI, Disability, etc etc taxes/charges... it's like the 13 additional charges/fees/taxes on my Cell phone service, half dozen on my electric/gas bill, half dozen on my internet/cable service.

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Warlord
06-01-2013, 08:45 AM
So I could then go to jail for "stealing" her chips and end up as the poster child for "greedy" white people stealing out of kid's mouths according to the liberal local media? No thanks. It was all I could do to keep my mouth shut in the first place. With about 40% of the population being on public assistance it's dangerous to speak up in gas stations and supermarkets, especially in "transitional" areas like this one.

Must drive you crazy at times witnessing the corruption and rotting of society at first hand but unable to speak for fear or reprisal or inciting hatred.

oyarde
06-01-2013, 10:58 AM
Must drive you crazy at times witnessing the corruption and rotting of society at first hand but unable to speak for fear or reprisal or inciting hatred.

Inciting hatred , meh,not going to let that stop me :). I cannot be outhated , simply because I hate having to pay for shit for other people more than they can hate me .

devil21
06-01-2013, 02:23 PM
Must drive you crazy at times witnessing the corruption and rotting of society at first hand but unable to speak for fear or reprisal or inciting hatred.

When Im probably the only person in line that doesn't have an EBT card, yeah that's not the time.

Anti Federalist
06-01-2013, 02:27 PM
So I could then go to jail for "stealing" her chips and end up as the poster child for "greedy" white people stealing out of kid's mouths according to the liberal local media? No thanks. It was all I could do to keep my mouth shut in the first place. With about 40% of the population being on public assistance it's dangerous to speak up in gas stations and supermarkets, especially in "transitional" areas like this one.

Where to make a strategic retreat to?

oyarde
06-01-2013, 02:28 PM
So I could then go to jail for "stealing" her chips and end up as the poster child for "greedy" white people stealing out of kid's mouths according to the liberal local media? No thanks. It was all I could do to keep my mouth shut in the first place. With about 40% of the population being on public assistance it's dangerous to speak up in gas stations and supermarkets, especially in "transitional" areas like this one.

I see your point , you could just tell them it is not greed , but "redistribution" , lol

devil21
06-01-2013, 02:37 PM
Where to make a strategic retreat to?

Im not sure such a place even exists anymore. Much of my city has been labeled "transitional" (local gov't euphemism for "bye bye middle class") so it's either the rich neighborhoods or the "transitional" ones. Not much left of the middle class anymore.

MelissaWV
06-01-2013, 02:40 PM
*ran

*used

Grack...

It's a dog, AF. Give him a dam break. :p

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4vbM9ho9frA/TU4gQqckXTI/AAAAAAAAAEw/7XubKdrDt6w/s1600/Broken+Dam.jpg

alucard13mm
06-01-2013, 04:29 PM
To stem illegal immigration, one must take away the incentives...

But those that want to take away the incentives has a hard time getting into office or implementing any sort of reform/restrictions on incentives and welfare.

I wonder... since China is becoming a super power and with lots of wealth (although concentrated at the top), is there mass immigration to china?

James Madison
06-01-2013, 04:39 PM
I remember reading several years ago that the Mexican government hands out packets that contain information on what to do and where to go for their citizenry to avail themselves of all the American freebies once they illegally arrive in the U.S.

No surprise, really. Mexico knows that if they couldn't use the United States as a steam valve for its disgruntled population, they would be a revolution overnight.

aGameOfThrones
06-27-2013, 05:05 PM
This is a great country!

heavenlyboy34
06-27-2013, 05:28 PM
It ain't just democrats...

At this point it's "government".
This^^ welfarism is rampant even the the "red" states. :(