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Warlord
05-30-2013, 02:44 PM
We need your help to save podcasting. EFF is partnering with leading lawyers to bust a key patent being used to threaten podcasters. But we need your help to find prior art and cover the filing fees for a brand new patent busting procedure.

A couple of months ago we wrote (https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/02/podcasting-community-faces-patent-troll-threat-eff-wants-help) that podcasting was under threat from a patent troll. At that time, a patent troll named Personal Audio LLC had sued three podcasters and sent demand letters to a number of others. Since then, Personal Audio has filed two new lawsuits—this time against CBS and NBC. It has also sent additional demand letters to small podcasting operations. We’ve written often in the past (https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/02/deep-dive-software-patents-and-rise-patent-trolls) about how patent trolls are a drain on innovation, and this latest troll is no exception. Since many podcasters barely make a profit, or simply do it for love, a shakedown from a patent troll threatens to shut down their program.

As with so many patent troll cases, the troll is asking for money despite having contributed nothing to the industry. By its own admission, Personal Audio tried and failed (http://patentexaminer.org/2011/10/as-iphone-4s-debuts-patent-holder-personal-audio-llc-sues-apple-for-the-third-time/) at its attempt to make an audio player. Having failed at actually making something, it became a shell company that does nothing but sue on its patents. And now it wants a handout from those who worked hard to create popular podcasts.

We’d like to enlist your help to fight this troll. One way to defeat a troll is to prove—either in court or at the patent office—that the claimed invention was not new (or was obvious). In other words, show that the patent applicant didn’t really invent anything. To do this, we need to find publications from before October 2, 1996 that disclose similar or identical ideas (this also known as prior art (http://patents.stackexchange.com/faq#prior-art)). The best prior art will include publications describing early versions of podcasting or any other kind of episode distribution over the Internet.

EFF is partnering with the Harvard’s Cyberlaw Clinic (https://cyber.law.harvard.edu/teaching/cyberlawclinic) to investigate a challenge to this patent at the patent office. The most likely procedure will involve a new legal tool called the “Inter partes review” introduced by the America Invents Act. If we are successful in this process, the patent gets invalidated and Personal Audio would be unable to assert it against anybody.

For us to get started, we need your help—the filing fees charged by the US Patent and Trademark Office for this kind of high-impact challenge are relatively steep and there’s no way around them, even for an advocacy non-profit like EFF. If you join us (https://supporters.eff.org/donate/save-podcasting) in fighting to save podcasting, we’ll be able to bring a robust case straight to the US Patent and Trademark Office to stop Personal Audio from doing any more damage to online broadcasters.

We’ve posted a detailed call for prior art (http://patents.stackexchange.com/questions/3884/call-for-prior-art-system-for-disseminating-media-content-representing-episodes) at Ask Patents. That includes the details about the patent claim being asserted and some examples of prior art we have already located. Please visit that page and review it carefully. If you know of any prior art, submit it there (http://patents.stackexchange.com/questions/3884/call-for-prior-art-system-for-disseminating-media-content-representing-episodes) (or send it via email to podcasting@eff.org). If you think you might be able to find prior art, search for it. Since all of your submissions will be public, they can also be used by others who are fighting back against Personal Audio in court. And please forward this message far and wide. The more people that search, the more art we will find.

It is not easy to fight patent trolls, but with your help, we can defeat this patent and save podcasting.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/05/help-save-podcasting

dannno
05-30-2013, 02:48 PM
Wow, this is a great cause, and if you don't have money to spare PLEASE if you can help with this section:


We’d like to enlist your help to fight this troll. One way to defeat a troll is to prove—either in court or at the patent office—that the claimed invention was not new (or was obvious). In other words, show that the patent applicant didn’t really invent anything. To do this, we need to find publications from before October 2, 1996 that disclose similar or identical ideas (this also known as prior art). The best prior art will include publications describing early versions of podcasting or any other kind of episode distribution over the Internet.

Warlord
05-30-2013, 02:54 PM
Ron Paul, Lew Rockwell etc. podcast regularly. They're trying to kill podcasting.

Please help them with research or a donation!

Tod
05-30-2013, 03:11 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_podcasting


Podcasting, first known as "audioblogging" has its roots dating back to the 1980s.

Lucille
05-30-2013, 03:49 PM
Well, there goes Maron (http://www.ifc.com/shows/maron).

@marcmaron (https://twitter.com/marcmaron/) PODCASTERS! The @EFF is taking on the patent trolls that want to shake us down. Help out! Spread the word! https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013

I just donated $1000 to the @EFF to save #FreePodcasting and fight patent trolls! Help! Learn here: https://t.co/dzxAncuUVF

@marcmaron @duncantrussell the guy behind that podcast patent claim has a shady financial history (insider trading). http://t.co/pPPuElVrz9

If the guy was a member of CONgress, he wouldn't have to worry about insider trading laws.

tangent4ronpaul
05-30-2013, 05:30 PM
The patent:

http://www.google.com/patents/US8112504

-t

Lucille
04-09-2014, 01:17 PM
Can Adam Carolla Defeat a Patent Troll and Save Podcasting?
http://www.dailyfinance.com/on/adam-carolla-patent-troll-podcasting-lawsuit-stakes/


The Future of Podcasting Is at Risk

Patent trolls sometimes sue over technology that was created before the patent they hold was granted, but that the troll asserts contain elements of that which was originally patented. That is what is happening in podcasting.

A mysterious group that calls itself Personal Audio claims the patent it owns for a "system for disseminating media content representing episodes in a serialized sequence" applies to podcasts. And that means anyone who does a podcast is infringing on that patent and is liable for licensing fees. In essence, the group is saying the very act of podcasting itself is controlled by their patent.

Personal Audio is no stranger to the world of trolling, having sued Apple (AAPL) on the claim that the iPod infringes on its patent for "downloadable playlists." It originally sought $84 million in damages, and a court awarded it $8 million.

Patent infringement suits are nothing new between large companies, but this latest attack by Personal Audio is significant because it targets a technology that has been a boon for individuals.

The podcast revolution is so remarkable because the costs to produce and distribute content are minimal –- anyone who has a microphone and a personal computer can create and upload a show. Most podcasts are free, and most podcasters produce them as a labor of love or as an additional platform to broaden their brand. But if Personal Audio gets its way, these podcasters will have to pay a fee if they want to continue producing them.
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'Adam Carolla Show' Targeted

Personal Audio has set up shell offices in East Texas, a jurisdiction known to be favorable to patent trolls, and sued three of the best known podcasts, including "The Adam Carolla Show." It claims that a patent that was applied for in 2009 and granted in 2012 is being violated by Carolla –- even though podcasting has been around since at least 2004 -– and has offered to settle with him for $3 million.

The intent is to win a judgment against Carolla, whose podcast is the most-downloaded in history, with the idea that once he pays up, everyone else will fall in line. What will probably happen is that if Carolla loses, most individual podcasts will fold or be forced to charge listeners in order to pay the licensing fees. If Personal Audio wins, the public loses.

Carolla has united with some high-profile podcasters -- including Chris Hardwick, Marc Maron, Greg Fitzsimmons and Joe Rogan -- to raise a legal fund to fight Personal Audio. Using the crowd-sourcing website FundAnything, they hope to raise the $1.5 million in legal fees that it is estimated will be needed to fight Personal Audio.

"Normally people settle up with these guys because it's so expensive to fight them in court," says Carolla. "Well guess what? We're going to circle the wagons, band together, and come out throwing punches, because remember, if I go down, well then your favorite podcast is going down next, and we all fall like dominoes."

Warrior_of_Freedom
04-09-2014, 01:24 PM
kinda off topic but I saw a news report about apple trying to patent the idea of being able to see your smartphone's camera feed while texting, so you can see what's in front of you. Patent trolling indeed. I thought patents were for REAL ideas.