Calif. homeowner arrested after firing shots at suspected burglars in neighborhood

[tangent4ronpaul]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/30/calif-homeowner-arrested-after-firing-shots-at-suspected-burglars-in/?intcmp=trending

A California man is facing possible charges after he fired shots at three burglary suspects who appeared to be casing his neighborhood.

Fox 5 reports 57-year-old James Monroe says he was in his San Diego home when he saw the suspects steal from his neighbor's house. Then, he says, they returned less than an hour later in a car.

Monroe allegedly told his wife to call police, and headed outside armed with a gun. The car began speeding away, so Monroe allegedly fired two shots at it.

A male in the car was hospitalized. The two other passengers, 18-year old Tronicqua Yvonne Henderson and 19-year old Javonna Renae Percy-Simpson, were arrested.

“The female driver she had a felony warrant for auto theft. She was arrested. The female passenger in the back had a warrant too and was also arrested,” Lt. Kevin Mayer of the San Diego Police Department told Fox 5.

However Monroe was also arrested.

“As with any level of force, especially deadly force your level of actions are going to be critiqued,” Mayer told Fox 5. “We’re doing a very thorough investigation as with any force.”

Monroe made bail Wednesday, and is waiting to hear from the district attorney if he will face charges.

The neighbor who was allegedly robbed, however, says he should be commended for his actions.

“It’s not right. He’s a really good person,” Alice Lazo told Fox 5.

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[sailingaway]

Well, you aren't allowed to shoot people 'speeding away', in a car outside, and not in your home, when only property is in issue as I understand it, particularly when it is someone else's property. That isn't self defense.

The circumstances may negate elements of worse stuff, and there is prosecutorial discretion, but I don't know where this one will come out.

[DamianTV]

Thats where the law sucks. They make it off your property, there is nothing you can do about it except file a report and wait for their happy asses to return to steal more of your shit. If any effort is made to apprehend the real criminals, the victim is charged with a crime.


When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the
cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law.

[bunklocoempire]

Only the state is allowed to shoot people on or off their own property while perps (according to the state's definition) are manipulating inanimate objects that don't belong or even belong to them.

Got it.

“As with any level of force, especially deadly force your level of actions are going to be critiqued,” Mayer told Fox 5. “We’re doing a very thorough investigation as with any force.”

Another thief of private property investigating deadly force against other thieves... got no words here.

Ready the Nicholson gif.:(

[phill4paul]

Are the cops giving the homeowner paid administrative leave while the investigation is continuing?

[bolil]

Are the cops giving the homeowner paid administrative leave while the investigation is continuing?

Well, he didn't murder a dog... so no.

I feel like thieves caught in the act should be open game, particularly if they try to run. Having already demonstrated their willingness to steal from a neighbor, I believe this man had just reason to feel his life and/or property were in danger. Just don't hit any mushrooms (that is what gang bangers call innocent people they shoot)

[tangent4ronpaul]

Well, he didn't murder a dog... so no.

Would it have to be a police dog? Or would any dog do?

A lot of gang bangers call their buddies "dog"...

-t

[jkr]

sure

but THEY BEAT PEOPLE TO DEATH ON THE STREETS WITH IMPUNITY!

[tod evans]

Sounds like the accused did an exemplary job of protecting and serving his neighbor..

Might be time to fire the drug warriors and their support staff and hire on a few more like him...

[phill4paul]

Just don't hit any mushrooms (that is what gang bangers call innocent people they shoot)

I did not know this.

[EBounding]

Come on now. I'm sure if the police did this to a fleeting suspect the consequences they would face would be just as severe.


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef017ee85cb1e4970d-640wi

[Keith and stuff]

Well, you aren't allowed to shoot people 'speeding away', in a car outside, and not in your home, when only property is in issue as I understand it, particularly when it is someone else's property. That isn't self defense.

The circumstances may negate elements of worse stuff, and there is prosecutorial discretion, but I don't know where this one will come out.
Very wise comments.

[tod evans]

Even the term "prosecutorial discretion" sends a cold shiver down my spine..

Prosecutors should be required to consult with actual people, and any discretion exercised should come from citizens not a government employee!

[BAllen]

Well, you aren't allowed to shoot people 'speeding away', in a car outside, and not in your home, when only property is in issue as I understand it, particularly when it is someone else's property. That isn't self defense.

The circumstances may negate elements of worse stuff, and there is prosecutorial discretion, but I don't know where this one will come out.

Not true in Texas:

Woman is acquitted after shooting robber six times in the back while fleeing:

http://www.snopes.com/crime/justice/click.asp

Man is acquitted for shooting robbers of neighbor's home:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPuM_XAo2BE

[sailingaway]

Not true in Texas:

Woman is acquitted after shooting robber six times in the back while fleeing:

http://www.snopes.com/crime/justice/click.asp

Man is acquitted for shooting robbers of neighbor's home:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPuM_XAo2BE

Wouldn't that have been in her yard though? In Texas the castle doctrine includes protection of others and includes your yard, not just your house, I have read. In CA it is just your house.

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LOL! I love that first article. Jury discretion/nullification can apply as well, of course.

[Anti Federalist]

Only the state is allowed to shoot people on or off their own property while perps (according to the state's definition) are manipulating inanimate objects that don't belong or even belong to them.

Got it.


As with any level of force, especially deadly force your level of actions are going to be critiqued,” Mayer told Fox 5. “We’re doing a very thorough investigation as with any force.”

Another thief of private property investigating deadly force against other thieves... got no words here.

Ready the Nicholson gif.:(


Are the cops giving the homeowner paid administrative leave while the investigation is continuing?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/1a36f63d61b4bad44244164a51c333c0/tumblr_mj0sbwVxPx1r4ugi5o1_500.gif

[kcchiefs6465]

Curious, what is the justification for shooting at a fleeing car, which apparently housed the people who committed an earlier burglary, (who knows what happened, there are a lot of similar cars or people) compared to the shooting of someone who defrauded another? (not that I advocate such)

A serious question.

[Reason]

How clueless do you have to be to think it's a good idea to shoot someone in the back in California...

[J_White]

only if they had this kind of investigations when similar actions are taken by "peace" officers !

[Reason]

Not true in Texas:

Woman is acquitted after shooting robber six times in the back while fleeing:

http://www.snopes.com/crime/justice/click.asp

Man is acquitted for shooting robbers of neighbor's home:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPuM_XAo2BE

You realize your link is actually talking about how your story is false right...