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enhanced_deficit
05-29-2013, 10:01 PM
The more I compare US media with that of other parts of the world including some far less "developed" places, the more I'm starting to realize that our mainstream TV/Print media is far less Free in real sense. Our media has less diversity of genuine views and high controlled, distorted, manipulated content. Quality/accuracy of US media in a sense appears pretty good relatively but the overall impact of controlled distortion/ommissions makes the information value almost negligible.
In any case, give your objective opinion in the attached poll :)

FrankRep
05-29-2013, 10:04 PM
The mass media is controlled.


Council on Foreign Relations and Media Control (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXSE0KV4JpA)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXSE0KV4JpA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXSE0KV4JpA

Natural Citizen
05-29-2013, 10:10 PM
Well. If one remebers that bullshit waks and money talks I'd say Yes & No. But that isn't an option.

I'd surmise the Fourth Estate to be yet another evolved branch of governmentized corporate representation.

enhanced_deficit
05-29-2013, 10:13 PM
Thanks Frank, will watch this video.

NC, question is not what works or not in a well financed, well oiled machine; question is do YOU consider our media to be Free.

thequietkid10
05-29-2013, 10:52 PM
Just because the media isn't as critical of the US as you would want it to be, doesn't mean it is not free.

I would prefer news media owned by private interest, over government interest anyday.

thoughtomator
05-29-2013, 10:58 PM
at least two people still clueless


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh_Kx7UKndI

our media is literally a joke

kcchiefs6465
05-29-2013, 11:09 PM
http://i.imgur.com/WXX7gqr.gif?1

Anti Federalist
05-29-2013, 11:09 PM
No.

sailingaway
05-29-2013, 11:12 PM
Do we define 'free' as good journalism? If so, definitely not. Do we define it as 'controlled beyond the corporation that runs it'? ..... If so I think it is a bit not free due to pressure, but I think the corporations are so hand in fist with government for their own benefit at the expense of the people, that they self edit, and then laziness works in too, it is easier to 'take the talking points' the government hands out than it is to actually investigate.

Expatriate
05-29-2013, 11:15 PM
Alternative media, yes. Federally licensed and controlled "mainstream" media, not really.

kcchiefs6465
05-29-2013, 11:19 PM
Well, I suppose a good rhetorical question would be why every MSM station minimalized Ron Paul and his campaign?

Flipping from FOX News to CNN and I'd hear the same bullshit talking points to discredit his message. It was a weird coincidence I'm sure.

A good collaberation that doesn't include one quarter of the bullshit I've seen.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_uvhsvPdEo

'Pimping for Paul.'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu_RpVfwMRo

Ron Paul questions why he is being ignored. Neil Cavuto told to cut to commercial.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tbNBnBe2SI

Is Ron Paul a gay stripper with Rick Perry? FOX News has the facts!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8bPfzIF8Qg


Seems legit. :rolleyes:

kcchiefs6465
05-29-2013, 11:21 PM
Especially watch the last one.

Amazing insight into the psyche of a brain dead powdered bimbo.

Powerful stuff.

american.swan
05-29-2013, 11:25 PM
I voted YES. It's free. The media is so free it can lie to you legally. It's so free they've all voluntarily joined forces to support whatever meme they want. Whatever laws requiring balanced news has been ignored or repealed.

Natural Citizen
05-29-2013, 11:28 PM
This is an excellent once over on the problem we have with journalism.

Abby Martin takes a look at the 2013 White House correspondents dinner, highlighting corporate cronyism in Washington as the catalyst for the decline of American journalism. Many of these journalists..echhh, cough...choke...go to the same schools as politicians, socialize together and have fun with super soaker fights with them and whatnot over at the mansion. Oh, yes. Is a hoot.:rolleyes:

Weapons of Mass Distraction....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cPBRGyZB4s

TheGrinch
05-30-2013, 12:17 AM
No, it is not free from the mainstream journalist standpoint. This is not conspiracy theory, there is plenty of academic evidence to back up the conflicts of interest they face.

Then you have the homogenization of relying strictly on just a few sources like the AP most of the time, and it's little more than a narrative, not news.

Mani
05-30-2013, 10:30 PM
No, it is not free from the mainstream journalist standpoint. This is not conspiracy theory, there is plenty of academic evidence to back up the conflicts of interest they face.

Then you have the homogenization of relying strictly on just a few sources like the AP most of the time, and it's little more than a narrative, not news.


The few sources is also a good point. There's a laziness to just repeat what others are saying, and journalism is now more about narrating and less about discovering truth. Truth only matters when it fits the objective.

And it's not 100% controlled to the point of communist style where the stories are printed and edited by the government first.

But there are boundaries and things you are allowed to talk and not allowed to talk about and beliefs that need to be further enhanced.

And if anyone is talking outside of those lines, they will be torn apart or ignored. Ron Paul was simply ignored, and then when they couldn't ignore him they did their best to tear him apart. Ross Perot didn't fit in their machine so he was always torn apart and turned into a clown to lose credibility. People who don't FIT or play the game, need to be ignored or torn down.


I don't think it's a conspiracy as much as just understood, and bringing in people in the industry who believe in the game and knowingly or unknowingly play along. Those that don't play along just get thrown into a corner and their voice is marginalized. The internet is helping to change that.

The MSM also has an objective of what they want you to see and how you should perceive things.

And living overseas helped me realize the MSM was making me an idiot of what is really beyond the borders of USA. There's a much more advanced world beyond USA, which is behind and falling apart, and how backward the USA really is. I was COMPLETELY blind to it, with the MSM making the rest of the world looking too old or too 3rd world.

I felt so dumb when I was exposed to foreign lands thinking...HUH!?! But...USA is #1....in everything....but...huh??? India is elephants and rikshaws and crowded broken streets...China is a bunch of cities with 10 million people on bicycles on overcrowded roads and pollution and no one is moving. Dubai is just a fucking desert. Etc etc. The pictures MSM showed of other countries was so misleading.

I always watched local news growing up with my parents, and always thought the rest of the world was only 3rd world countries and Europe was old tiny and quaint. And grand ole USA was the Mecca of the world in...well...everything.

It was shocking to know other countries were more advanced, had better technology, had better efficiencies, could do things better, faster, cheaper, then back home.

Growing up I honestly thought we were #1 in EVERYTHING, we were the leaders of the world in all aspects. I felt like the MSM in USA was more biased then Al Jazeer, because what I knew of the world was so fucked up and mislead compared to what the world really looks like. I used to laugh at Al Jazeer when I lived in the US, thinking, do the people there actually believe that shit? Now I don't laugh...I'm thinking...WOW, all those years I actually believed that shit.

heavenlyboy34
05-30-2013, 10:42 PM
MSM is very much controlled and NOT free. The cost of you or I getting an equal shot at getting access to boobus' TV is so cost-prohibitive that a regular person couldn't do it. Then there's the myriad regulations by the FCC, etc which provide further barriers to entry. :P It's an epic fail-and one reason people turn to "alternative" media on teh interwebz.

kcchiefs6465
05-30-2013, 10:46 PM
MSM is very much controlled and NOT free. The cost of you or I getting an equal shot at getting access to boobus' TV is so cost-prohibitive that a regular person couldn't do it. Then there's the myriad regulations by the FCC, etc which provide further barriers to entry. :P It's an epic fail-and one reason people turn to "alternative" media on teh interwebz.
You voted that it is free.

heavenlyboy34
05-30-2013, 10:49 PM
Well, I suppose a good rhetorical question would be why every MSM station minimalized Ron Paul and his campaign?

Flipping from FOX News to CNN and I'd hear the same bullshit talking points to discredit his message. It was a weird coincidence I'm sure.

A good collaberation that doesn't include one quarter of the bullshit I've seen.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_uvhsvPdEo

'Pimping for Paul.'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu_RpVfwMRo

Ron Paul questions why he is being ignored. Neil Cavuto told to cut to commercial.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tbNBnBe2SI

Is Ron Paul a gay stripper with Rick Perry? FOX News has the facts!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8bPfzIF8Qg


Seems legit. :rolleyes:
lolz @ epic fails on memory lane. :D Sometimes this shit is so pathetic ya gotta just laugh to cope with it.