Farcebook Says It Failed to Bar Posts With Hate Speech

[Anti Federalist]

Wait until they start reporting it to "authority" for prosecution.



Facebook Says It Failed to Bar Posts With Hate Speech

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/29/business/media/facebook-says-it-failed-to-stop-misogynous-pages.html

By TANZINA VEGA
Published: May 28, 2013

Facebook on Tuesday acknowledged that its systems to identify and remove hate speech had not worked effectively, as it faced pressure from feminist groups that want the site to ban pages that glorify violence against women.

The activists, who sent more than 5,000 e-mails to Facebook’s advertisers and elicited more than 60,000 posts on Twitter, also prompted Nissan and more than a dozen smaller companies to say that they would withdraw advertising from the site.

In a blog post, Facebook said its “systems to identify and remove hate speech have failed to work as effectively as we would like, particularly around issues of gender-based hate.” The company said it would review how it dealt with such content, update training for its employees, increase accountability — including requiring that users use their real identities when creating content — and establish more direct lines of communication with women’s groups and other entities.

Women’s groups have complained to Facebook about misogynous content in the past, but pressure on the company escalated last week when a collective led by Women, Action and the Media; Laura Bates of the Everyday Sexism Project; and Soraya Chemaly, a writer and activist, published an open letter asking Facebook executives to “ban gender-based hate speech on your site.”

The letter highlighted Facebook pages with names like “Violently Raping Your Friend Just for Laughs” and “Kicking your Girlfriend in the Fanny because she won’t make you a Sandwich,” and other pages that included graphic images of women being abused.

The groups asked Facebook to improve how it trains moderators to recognize and remove such content. They also asked Facebook users to use the Twitter hashtag #FBrape to call on companies to stop advertising on Facebook if their ads have been placed alongside such content. A petition on the site change.org had almost 224,000 supporters by Tuesday evening.

“We thought that advertisers would be the most effective way of getting Facebook’s attention,” said Jaclyn Friedman, the executive director of Women, Action and the Media. “We had no idea that it would blow up this big. I think people have been frustrated with this issue for so long and feeling like that had no way for Facebook to pay attention to them. As consumers we do have a lot of power.”

David Reuter, a spokesman for Nissan, said in an interview on Tuesday that the automaker has stopped all advertising on Facebook until it could assure Nissan that its ads would not appear on pages with offensive content.

Nissan typically buys Facebook advertisements that target particular demographic groups, like men age 30 to 35, Mr. Reuter said. In Facebook’s system, those ads follow the users onto whatever pages they visit, potentially including those with offensive content.

“We are working with Facebook to understand this situation better and opt out of advertising on any pages that are offensive,” he said.

While more than a dozen smaller advertisers like Down Easy Brewing and eReader Utopia had agreed by Tuesday to remove their ads from Facebook, other major advertisers, including Zappos, Dove and American Express, stopped short of withdrawing their ads. Those companies did, however, issue responses through Facebook, e-mail or Twitter that they did not condone violence against women.

Dove, a beauty brand that has a campaign that focuses on “real beauty,” has come under intense pressure because of its marketing focus on women, Ms. Friedman said. One commenter on the Dove Facebook page wrote: “So, Dove, you’re willing to make money off of us, but not willing to lift a finger to let Facebook know violence against women isn’t acceptable?”

Representatives for Dove did not respond to requests for an interview, nor did representatives for Zappos or American Express.

Stacy Janicki, a senior partner and director of accounts at the advertising agency Carmichael Lynch, called Facebook’s response on Tuesday “a bit of a cop-out.”

“I think advertisers have a responsibility to consumers and media companies have a responsibility to advertisers to make sure they control the content on those sites,” Ms. Janicki, adding that as Facebook and other social media companies seek to secure more advertising dollars, advertisers will have the power to walk away from content that does not represent them well.

“That’s the power and the curse of social media,” she said. “You can put anything on there, but the benefit is that you can elevate it and scale it to where advertisers will listen and ultimately Facebook will listen.”

[Petar]

I actually started a pool to get you on an RPF members facebook page that just emerged. It's up to a whopping $30 in case you are interested.

[Anti Federalist]

I actually started a pool to get you on an RPF members facebook page that just emerged. It's up to a whopping $30 in case you are interested.

Linky linky?

I'll go place my "Nevah!" chip.

[Brian4Liberty]

Where's that thread where Dick Durbin wants to limit freedom of speech?

What the hell. Let's limit speech. It's for the children! We can put MSNBC, the SPLC and the IRS in charge of policing the Internet; military raid support provided by DHS. What a wonderful world we can create!

[Petar]

Linky linky?

I'll go place my "Nevah!" chip.

Seriously dude, just make a facebook account with a fake name.

It's not like we aren't all on a bunch of NSA lists already.

At least this way you get to berate friends of friends for being liberals.

Happy sadistic fun times await you, trust me.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Cultural Marxism... chart needs updating

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/Marxism-history1.jpg

[The Free Hornet]

Seriously dude, just make a facebook account with a fake name.

Facebook benefits from network effects. The value of network is proportion to users (n) or users squared (n^2) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect).

Knowing that, why do you want to increase the value of their network?

[Petar]

Why not.

I see Facebook as a massive net plus.

As soon as the government tries to murder a bunch of people and blame it on Muslims or anyone else, all of the evidence that contradicts the official narrative is all over the social networks instantly.

Sure the CIA helped create it and is trying to use it to enslave everyone, but the same can be said for the whole internet itself.

Look at how far Ron got in 2008 and compare that to his 88 run.

The internet alone can be thanked for that, and that includes social networks like Facebook.

Youtube was actually what turned me on to Ron Paul.

[Petar]

double toast

[Anti Federalist]

Facebook benefits from network effects. The value of network is proportion to users (n) or users squared (n^2) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect).

Knowing that, why do you want to increase the value of their network?

Exactly...among other things.

[Petar]

Exactly...among other things.

Heh, I'm going to start "liking" all of your posts here on Facebook.

[Anti Federalist]

And I suppose this goes here:



Papa John’s racist voicemail rant gets employees fired

http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/2013/0528/Papa-John-s-racist-voicemail-rant-gets-employees-fired-video?nav=676127-csm_article-mostViewed

Once again, Papa John’s is having to apologize for an incident of racial name-calling among members of its staff.

Papa John's racist voicemail accidentally sent to a customer in Sanford, Fla., got two employees fired and prompted a public apology from the pizza chain's CEO. The voicemail isn't the first incident of racism among Papa John's employees.

Two of the chain‘s employees have been fired after a delivery man in Sanford, Fla. accidentally left a voicemail laden with racial epithets on a customer’s answering machine.

After delivering pizzas to the customer and his wife Sunday evening, the Papa John’s employee mistakenly “butt-dialed” the patron while talking to a fellow worker. In the resulting racist voicemail, which lasts about four minutes, he complains about his $5 tip and sings an “N-word”-centric version of the famous “Figaro” aria from the opera “The Barber of Seville.”

"I guess that's the only requirement for being a [insert N-word] in Sanford,” he says as his fellow employee laughs. "Yeah, they give me five bucks there – fine outstanding African-American gentleman of the community.”

The customer posted a video of the voicemail on YouTube, saying that he and his wife paid "21 percent as usual." The video ended with the camera panning down to a Papa John's pizza box with CEO John Schnatter's face on it. Schnatter issued a public apology on the chain’s Facebook page Monday.

“I am extremely concerned to learn about the reprehensible language used by two former employees in one of our restaurants,” the statement reads. “Their thinking and actions defy both my personal and the company's values, and everything for which this company stands. The employees responsible for this absolutely unacceptable behavior were immediately terminated.”

“I am very sorry that anyone would be exposed to these hurtful and painful words by any person involved in any way with our company,” he continues. I have personally reached out to our customer to share my own thoughts and offer my deepest apology."

Sanford has become nationally synonymous with racial tensions over the past year, in the wake of George Zimmerman’s shooting of Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black teenager (Mr. Zimmerman and his supporters maintain he shot in self-defense onder Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law). Zimmerman’s trial for second degree murder is set to begin June 10.

For Papa John’s, meanwhile, this is at least the second incident of racism among its employees to receive national attention in less than two years. In January 2012, an employee in New York was fired for using a racial epithet to describe an Asian customer on a receipt.

[Anti Federalist]

Heh, I'm going to start "liking" all of your posts here on Facebook.

Please don't...

[Petar]

Please don't...

Heh, just kidding.

There is a like button at the top of each page in the forum though.

[WhistlinDave]

I have never tipped a pizza delivery guy more than one dollar per pizza and/or salad or food item. I think four bucks was the largest ever tip. The guy was complaining about a five dollar tip? Wow. More than he'd ever get from me.

I agree with Petar though, AF, it is a lot of sadistic fun debating stuff with sheeple on FB. I think Facebook is great for the spread of ideas. I post anti-war, anti-drone murder, anti-drug war and other anti-government stuff all the time and it always ends up in debates with people. And for every person who joins in on the debate I know there are ten or 20 others watching and reading along. I know for sure Facebook is waking a hell of a lot of people up to the evils of big government.

I think you'd actually have fun on there... And there isn't a mod there who will give you a smackdown if you call somebody a #$%@#$%@ idiot while explaining why they're wrong.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

And I suppose this goes here:



Papa John’s racist voicemail rant gets employees fired

http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/2013/0528/Papa-John-s-racist-voicemail-rant-gets-employees-fired-video?nav=676127-csm_article-mostViewed

Once again, Papa John’s is having to apologize for an incident of racial name-calling among members of its staff.

Papa John's racist voicemail accidentally sent to a customer in Sanford, Fla., got two employees fired and prompted a public apology from the pizza chain's CEO. The voicemail isn't the first incident of racism among Papa John's employees.

Two of the chain‘s employees have been fired after a delivery man in Sanford, Fla. accidentally left a voicemail laden with racial epithets on a customer’s answering machine.

After delivering pizzas to the customer and his wife Sunday evening, the Papa John’s employee mistakenly “butt-dialed” the patron while talking to a fellow worker. In the resulting racist voicemail, which lasts about four minutes, he complains about his $5 tip and sings an “N-word”-centric version of the famous “Figaro” aria from the opera “The Barber of Seville.”

"I guess that's the only requirement for being a [insert N-word] in Sanford,” he says as his fellow employee laughs. "Yeah, they give me five bucks there – fine outstanding African-American gentleman of the community.”

The customer posted a video of the voicemail on YouTube, saying that he and his wife paid "21 percent as usual." The video ended with the camera panning down to a Papa John's pizza box with CEO John Schnatter's face on it. Schnatter issued a public apology on the chain’s Facebook page Monday.

“I am extremely concerned to learn about the reprehensible language used by two former employees in one of our restaurants,” the statement reads. “Their thinking and actions defy both my personal and the company's values, and everything for which this company stands. The employees responsible for this absolutely unacceptable behavior were immediately terminated.”

“I am very sorry that anyone would be exposed to these hurtful and painful words by any person involved in any way with our company,” he continues. I have personally reached out to our customer to share my own thoughts and offer my deepest apology."

Sanford has become nationally synonymous with racial tensions over the past year, in the wake of George Zimmerman’s shooting of Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black teenager (Mr. Zimmerman and his supporters maintain he shot in self-defense onder Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law). Zimmerman’s trial for second degree murder is set to begin June 10.

For Papa John’s, meanwhile, this is at least the second incident of racism among its employees to receive national attention in less than two years. In January 2012, an employee in New York was fired for using a racial epithet to describe an Asian customer on a receipt.

Political correctness is ruining this country. It's its own form of intolerance. Who cares if someone calls somebody an ethnic slur. I surely don't give one ounce of a shit if someone uses one against me, sometimes the context is even funny. Also, still 99.9999% of the country doesn't know what true racism is. Stupid crackerjack paddy wetback oriental honky spic frog chink jap niglets

As a matter of fact, I think a lot of tension would be resolved if people openly spouted their bigotries, this way they get bored of it and move onto something else.

[tod evans]

Just for the feminazis on facebook;

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[ronpaulfollower999]

Complain about a $5 tip? LOL......

[BlackTerrel]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/britain-police-arrest-twitter-facebook-145758582.html


British police are arresting people in the middle of the night if they have made racist or anti-Muslim comments on Twitter following the murder of a soldier by two Muslims in Woolwich, London.

Three men have so far been taken into custody for using Twitter and Facebook to criticize Muslims.

In the Woolwich attack, Lee Rigby, a drummer in the Royal Regiment of Fusliers, was run down in a car and then hacked and stabbed to death by two men with knives and a cleaver. They told a man video recording the scene that it was vengeance for the killings of Muslims by the British Army.

One man has been charged with "malicious communications" on Facebook, the Daily Mail reports.

Two others have been arrested under the Public Order Act on suspicion of inciting racial or religious hatred. The police are now arresting people based on mere speech in social media, a detective said in a statement to the press:

'The men were arrested under the Public Order Act on suspicion of inciting racial or religious hatred. Our inquiries into these comments continue.

'These comments were directed against a section of our community. Comments such as these are completely unacceptable and only cause more harm to our community in Bristol.

'People should stop and think about what they say on social media before making statements as the consequences could be serious.'

The arrests come at the behest of British Muslims, who fear a backlash against them following the death of Rigby, The New York Times says:

The police and Muslim groups have said that there have been anti-Muslim episodes in many parts of the country, the most common involving derogatory messages on social media sites like Twitter and Facebook.

A number of arrests have been made, with criminal charges being leveled in some cases under laws against inciting racial or religious hatred, and Muslim community leaders have reported rising concern among the estimated 2.5 million Muslims in Britain.

Two men were detained in the middle of the night after they expressed anger at Muslims on Twitter. The Independent quotes police as saying:

"We began inquiries into the comments and at around 3.20am two men, aged 23 and 22, were detained at two addresses in Bristol.

"The men were arrested under the Public Order Act on suspicion of inciting racial or religious hatred. Our inquiries into these comments continue."

[BlackTerrel]

Facebook on Tuesday acknowledged that its systems to identify and remove hate speech had not worked effectively, as it faced pressure from feminist groups that want the site to ban pages that glorify violence against women.

The activists, who sent more than 5,000 e-mails to Facebook’s advertisers and elicited more than 60,000 posts on Twitter, also prompted Nissan and more than a dozen smaller companies to say that they would withdraw advertising from the site.


Isn't that the free market? Facebook doesn't want to lose advertisers. I doubt this forum or most others would allow posts that glorify violence against women.


And I suppose this goes here:

Papa John’s racist voicemail rant gets employees fired

They weren't jailed because of facebook. It was a voicemail. So maybe cell phones or the culprit - or more likely their own stupidity.

[BlackTerrel]

Political correctness is ruining this country. It's its own form of tolerance. Who cares if someone calls somebody an ethnic slur. I surely don't give one ounce of a shit if someone uses one against me, sometimes the context is even funny. Also, still 99.9999% of the country doesn't know what true racism is. Stupid crackerjack paddy wetback oriental honky spic frog chink jap niglets

As a matter of fact, I think a lot of tension would be resolved if people openly spouted their bigotries, this way they get bored of it and move onto something else.

If you order a pizza from someone and then they leave a voicemail calling you the N word that's not "political correctness" it's being an asshole and surely bad business practice - again it's the free market.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

If you order a pizza from someone and then they leave a voicemail calling you the N word that's not "political correctness" it's being an asshole and surely bad business practice - again it's the free market.
No because he called him that all of a sudden now it's hate speech. That's PC crap.

[Anti Federalist]

If you order a pizza from someone and then they leave a voicemail calling you the N word that's not "political correctness" it's being an asshole and surely bad business practice - again it's the free market.

Understood it was not FarceBook, just a similar type of thing.

But what I'm driving at is alluded to in the news report from the UK that you posted:

Soon people will be getting arrested for this.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Understood it was not FarceBook, just a similar type of thing.

But what I'm driving at is alluded to in the news report from the UK that you posted:

Soon people will be getting arrested for this.
Soon? People get arrested ALREADY for saying stupid shit on the internet.

[talkingpointes]

Isn't that the free market? Facebook doesn't want to lose advertisers. I doubt this forum or most others would allow posts that glorify violence against women.



They weren't jailed because of facebook. It was a voicemail. So maybe cell phones or the culprit - or more likely their own stupidity.

You're mixing up the op and AF's post.

[tod evans]

Isn't that the free market? Facebook doesn't want to lose advertisers. I doubt this forum or most others would allow posts that glorify violence against women.




Just for the feminazis on facebook;

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OMG :eek:

[Anti Federalist]

OMG :eek:

http://www.dragonsearchmarketing.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/mad-mad-sexist-spanking-ad1.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/30/article-0-16B0E785000005DC-834_964x1231.jpg

[PSYOP]

CIABOOK.

[BlackTerrel]

No because he called him that all of a sudden now it's hate speech. That's PC crap.

Calling a paying customer the N word isn't hate speech? And it's PC to think that it is.

Holy hell man.

[BlackTerrel]

Understood it was not FarceBook, just a similar type of thing.

But what I'm driving at is alluded to in the news report from the UK that you posted:

Soon people will be getting arrested for this.

In the UK you will get arrested for it whether it's on facebook, twitter, or in person. Not sure it's facebook fault - it's the law in that country.

Regarding the censoring of posts that advocate violence against women - not sure why you would oppose that. Facebook is a business - other businesses (like Nissan) have decided to not advertise unless facebook removes these posts. Facebook complies in order to make more money.

That's what businesses do in a free market.

Anyone else is free to create a social network where posts advocating violence against women are allowed.

What's the issue?

[torchbearer]

its a cia database of your thoughts and going ons,
your are the data operator providing them with the info.

[BlackTerrel]

You're mixing up the op and AF's post.

AF posted both. He is also the OP.

[Petar]

The fact that people are getting arrested for saying stupid shit on twitter only helps bring these ridiculous laws to light.