"we can anticipate where a crime is likely to occur"

[better-dead-than-fed]

http://www.predpol.com/

http://www.predpol.com/about/:


The mission of PredPol is simple: place officers at the right time and location to give them the best chance of preventing crime. To accomplish this, PredPol processes crime data in order to:


assign probabilities of future crime events to regions of space and time
present estimated crime risk in a useable framework to law enforcement decision makers
lead to more efficient & more accurate resource deployment by local law enforcement agencies


Article here: http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/seattle-police-deploy-crime-prediction-software-city-wide/45334

[tangent4ronpaul]

Seattle also received a $5 million federal grant last year which went towards 30 Department of Homeland Security-funded surveillance cameras on Seattle’s waterfront area. Despite the claim that the cameras were for the coast line to protect the Port of Seattle from terrorism, the cameras were caught pointing inward, watching Seattle residents by “accident.”

$166,666 PER CAMERA! :eek:

Your tax dollars at waste! :rolleyes:

after a short search, I found this $80,000 STUDIO camera:

http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-broadcastcameras/cat-cinealta/product-HDWF900R/

http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/imageController?path=Asset%20Hierarchy$Professiona l$SEL-yf-generic-153693$SEL-yf-generic-153696SEL-asset-60048.jpg&id=StepID$SEL-asset-60048&dimension=600x407

I'm finding a lot of camera's in the $1,500 - $8,000 range that are pro grade and used for TV and movie production. How the fuck do you spend $166,666 of a fucking video camera???

-t

[tangent4ronpaul]

$166,666 for this? You've got to be kidding me!

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/49/bb/49bb3a2125ac52cc7bc23386268c5af6.jpg?itok=fAy8nz1a

You can buy a house in a lot of parts of the country for that much!

-t

[thoughtomator]

I can anticipate where a crime is likely to occur, too - and I don't need any high-tech gadgets to do it.

[amy31416]

I can anticipate where a crime is likely to occur, too - and I don't need any high-tech gadgets to do it.

Seriously man. It ain't too tough to figure out what neighborhoods not to be alone in.

[asurfaholic]

Someone should put a hoodie on and a BB gun, go have some fun

[CaptUSA]

Look! I can do this too!

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/App_Data/MediaFiles/6/C/9/%7B6C9DA83C-D0E0-423A-B56F-586321BEEBF4%7D01042013_113_congress_article.jpg

[tangent4ronpaul]

Someone should put a hoodie on and a BB gun, go have some fun

A .22 cal pellet gun would be more effective...

-t

[kcchiefs6465]

$166,666 for this? You've got to be kidding me!

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/49/bb/49bb3a2125ac52cc7bc23386268c5af6.jpg?itok=fAy8nz1a

You can buy a house in a lot of parts of the country for that much!

-t
You can buy 20 houses in some parts of the country for that.

Last I heard*, the FLIR camera on the police helicopters is about $100,000.

ETA: *IIRC

[tangent4ronpaul]

You can buy 20 houses in some parts of the country for that.

Last I heard*, the FLIR camera on the police helicopters is about $100,000.

ETA: *IIRC

You are low:

http://clerkwebsvr1.oaklandnet.com/attachments/16269.pdf

... A report and proposed resolution has been prepared waiving the competitive bid process and authorizing the City Administrator her designee to purchase a Forward-Looking Infrared (FLIR) ultra SSOOXRT camera from FLIR, Inc. at a purchase price of $269,898.09 (tax included) and a Broadcast Microwave System (BMS) from BMS, Inc. at a purchase price of $26,599.00 (tax included) for the Oakland Police Air Support Unit Helicopter, to replace the Police Department's existing FLIR2000 model, which is no longer functional or capable of repair.

:eek:

-t

[Napolitanic Wars]

http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/files/2007/08/precrime.jpg

http://notalemming.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/pre_crime.jpg

[ClydeCoulter]

Oh, and don't forget the quotas, to ensure that stats are compatible with the estimates.

[Philhelm]

Look! I can do this too!

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/App_Data/MediaFiles/6/C/9/%7B6C9DA83C-D0E0-423A-B56F-586321BEEBF4%7D01042013_113_congress_article.jpg

+1776

[idiom]

Oh, and don't forget the quotas, to ensure that stats are compatible with the estimates.

Well any discrepancy would obviously be due to lazy cops.

[DamianTV]

Better yet, since we know all crimes are committed by people, we'll just shove the camera up your ass and monitor everyone until they actually commit a crime! Oh, we're already doing that.

[BAllen]

Cops used to do that without cameras, and it was punished as 'profiling'.

[RPtotheWH]

Look! I can do this too!

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/App_Data/MediaFiles/6/C/9/%7B6C9DA83C-D0E0-423A-B56F-586321BEEBF4%7D01042013_113_congress_article.jpg

This is where 99% of the crime in the US takes place.

[kcchiefs6465]

Cops used to do that without cameras, and it was punished as 'profiling'.
Lmao

[Pericles]

$166,666 for this? You've got to be kidding me!

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/49/bb/49bb3a2125ac52cc7bc23386268c5af6.jpg?itok=fAy8nz1a

You can buy a house in a lot of parts of the country for that much!

-t
Looks like a target to me.

[pcosmar]

How about eliminating 99.9% of the existing laws.
The crime rate would take a drastic drop overnight.

[timosman]

http://www.mercurynews.com/milpitas/ci_30115970/police-tech-contract-meant-predict-prevent-crime-milpitas


By Ian Bauer, Milpitas Post 07/11/2016

Three years ago, Milpitas Police Department had hopes of employing a new crime-fighting technology that bordered on something one might see in a science fiction movie.

But about a year after the city authorized a three-year, $37,000 contract with California-based PredPol Inc. for so-called predictive policing software -- which uses mathematics, social science and probability to geographically pinpoint and ultimately reduce crime -- the department pulled the plug on the agreement.

"After approximately one year of usage, it was our experience that the minimal benefit did not justify continuing costs," Milpitas Police Chief Steve Pangelinan said last week.

In 2013, police here were interested in PredPol's web-based algorithmic software that calculates historic crime trends, demographics and even the weather in order to deploy officers to areas that experience the most crime. At the time, Pangelinan told this newspaper the predictive technology had the ability to locate crime to an area as small as 500 feet by 500 feet.

"In total, it will hopefully reduce crime," Pangelinan previously said.

Fast forward three years and the police chief found the software less than stellar.

"It was our experience that we often did not have sufficient staff to post officers at PredPol-identified locations and still remain responsive to priority calls for service," Pangelinan said.

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He added his police force discovered that within Milpitas' approximately 14 square miles the "existing internal processes of tracking crime and identifying potential areas of exposure were often more accurate than results received from PredPol."

Since ditching PredPol, Pangelinan asserted Milpitas police are not using similar, crime-predictive technologies in part due to the size of the city.

"I think the PredPol system may have greater benefit to law enforcement organizations policing much larger geographical jurisdictions where greater variables in crime patterns may exist," he said.

When the city's police force had envisioned using PredPol, the technology had come with some fanfare.

That included Time magazine, which called the predictive policing software one of the best inventions of 2011. Similarly, a 2012 Associated Press story on the new technology stated Los Angeles Police Department was the largest agency to embrace the technology.

PredPol's website states its tool was developed over the course of six years by a team of mathematicians and social scientists at the University of California at Los Angeles, Santa Clara University and University of California at Irvine in close collaboration with crime analysts and line-level officers at the Los Angeles and Santa Cruz police departments.

PredPol states the mission for its software is simple: place officers at the right time and location to give them the best chance of preventing crime.

To accomplish this, PredPol processes crime data in order to: assign probabilities of future crime events to regions of space and time; present estimated crime risk in a useable framework to law enforcement decision makers; and lead to more efficient and more accurate resource deployment by local law enforcement agencies.

Besides Los Angeles police, the Santa Cruz, Modesto and Atlanta police departments have implemented PredPol's software and claim reductions in crime in those cities, the firm's website states.

According to Pangelinan, there was no real cost to the city for using PredPol software. A 2013 Citizen Options for Public Safety (COPS) grant -- generally awarded by State of California to law enforcement agencies each year -- helped finance the purchase.

"We utilized state grant funds of $12,500 for the one-year subscription," he said.

Meanwhile, Pangelinan asserted that crime rates, which can be cyclical, rising and falling year over year, in the city of Milpitas has been declining as of late.

He said the Federal Bureau of Investigation's Part 1 serious, violent crimes such as murder, rape, robbery, aggravated assault, auto theft, arson, burglary have all seen decreases in Milpitas in the last year or so.

"In 2013 we realized a 2-percent increase in FBI Part 1 crimes, and in 2014 a 4-percent increase. However, in 2015 crime in these same categories declined by more than 8 percent," Pangelinan said. "Through May of 2016 crime in these same categories are down 13 percent below year-to-date numbers in 2015."

But Pangelinan would not comment as to the reason -- whether its old-fashinoned police work or some other factor -- why crime here appears to be on the decline.

[ZENemy]

Its not their money, why would they care?

[Ronin Truth]

I can too, Washington D.C., everyday, guaranteed.