This Is Very Interesting!

[LibertyCzar]

I was looking around, found this poll, and was surprised to see not only the results of the poll, but the purpose of this poll as well.

Take the poll, and check it out: http://www.constitutionparty.com/surveys/index.php?sid=2

This is from the official website for the Constitution Party, which last was updated, has ballot access in 15 States, and will have a fund to fight for access in other states.

Ron Paul has Third Party Support! :D

[Seer]

Neat, he could potentially be the Republican and Constitution Party candidate (where it's legal to be running in multiple parties).

[Highmesa]

Adding up 1st, 2nd and 3rd, RP was on 93% of the ballots.

[yongrel]

the Constitution Party? I'm only vaguely familiar with them. I seem to remember them being anti-pornography, anti-gay marriage and anti-gambling.

Am I thinking of the right party?

[LibertyCzar]

the Constitution Party? I'm only vaguely familiar with them. I seem to remember them being anti-pornography, anti-gay marriage and anti-gambling.

Am I thinking of the right party?

Well, if Ron Paul helps them out, and he will if he's on their ticket, I'm sure the next time they decide on planks for their platform, they will compromise a little to fit Ron Paul's position. Most of the positions are already similar. And if they want Ron Paul, it seems they don't care if his positions are libertarian in nature. :cool:

[LibertyCzar]

Neat, he could potentially be the Republican and Constitution Party candidate (where it's legal to be running in multiple parties).

I don't think he would be if he gets the Republican nomination. But this is great news that if he wants to go as an Independent, he would already have a head start.

Also, Ron Paul could become the nominee for President of Vice President on the Unity '08 presidential ticket. And with his immense internet popularity, that is likely, as long as he agrees. I don't think he would need to give up the nomination for a regular party either, he would just have to be on with someone from another party.

[Patrick Henry]

I was looking around, found this poll, and was surprised to see not only the results of the poll, but the purpose of this poll as well.

Take the poll, and check it out: http://www.constitutionparty.com/surveys/index.php?sid=2

This is from the official website for the Constitution Party, which last was updated, has ballot access in 15 States, and will have a fund to fight for access in other states.

Ron Paul has Third Party Support! :D

Yup. I used to be a member of the Constitution party until I registered as a Republican to vote for the good Dr.

[LibertyEagle]

Well, if Ron Paul helps them out, and he will if he's on their ticket, I'm sure the next time they decide on planks for their platform, they will compromise a little to fit Ron Paul's position. Most of the positions are already similar. And if they want Ron Paul, it seems they don't care if his positions are libertarian in nature. :cool:

Ah heck, the Republican party still "says" they're for small government and we all know how that's worked out. Don't we? :)

[LibertyEagle]

Have you guys seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgF-s1voM_Y

[remaxjon]

I love taking polls that ask for a 2nd choice. I'm always staring at the names and thinking are you fucking serious. I would rather punch myself in the dick.

[tsoldrin]

AFAIK the Constitution party is the largest 'third' party in the U.S. and is substantially larger than the Libertarian party. It's most likely the place where the droves of compassionate conservatives have run to after the neocon takeover of the GOP. I think they'd probably be monsterously huge if it weren't for the heavy Christian bias in their platform... especially in these times of heavy two-party dissatisfaction.


Here's my question... if Paul is on more than one ticket, will votes for him in both tickets be lumped into one or will he be dividing his own votes??

[lbrtylvr]

Am I right in thinking that the Constitution party is the Libertarian party for Christian zealots.

[remaxjon]

Am I right in thinking that the Constitution party is the Libertarian party for Christian zealots.

yes you are right


It does not matter however because the main goal of these people is to get roe v wade over turned( which I agree with and think it should be left up to the states). Now I don't care who votes for Paul as long as they vote for him. So I will welcome them with open arms even if I don't agree with almost everything they do.

[LibertyEagle]

AFAIK the Constitution party is the largest 'third' party in the U.S. and is substantially larger than the Libertarian party. It's most likely the place where the droves of compassionate conservatives have run to after the neocon takeover of the GOP. I think they'd probably be monsterously huge if it weren't for the heavy Christian bias in their platform... especially in these times of heavy two-party dissatisfaction.


Here's my question... if Paul is on more than one ticket, will votes for him in both tickets be lumped into one or will he be dividing his own votes??


I don't know about the "compassionate conservatives", because there are plenty of them still in the Republican party. See, they like big government just like the neocons and the neo-libs; they only differ on what they want their BIG government to do. Their ain't nothing conservative about "compassionate conservatives" or neocons.

Disgusting :(

Now, the REAL conservatives, yes, many of them may have fled to the Constitutional Party. :) We need to get these people to register as Republicans so they can vote in the primary!

[ChrisM]

AFAIK the Constitution party is the largest 'third' party in the U.S. and is substantially larger than the Libertarian party. It's most likely the place where the droves of compassionate conservatives have run to after the neocon takeover of the GOP. I think they'd probably be monsterously huge if it weren't for the heavy Christian bias in their platform... especially in these times of heavy two-party dissatisfaction.


Here's my question... if Paul is on more than one ticket, will votes for him in both tickets be lumped into one or will he be dividing his own votes??
If the Constitution Party wanted him, they probably would only endorse him and not nominate him, especially since that's not even legal in some states.

[winston84]

I love taking polls that ask for a 2nd choice. I'm always staring at the names and thinking are you fucking serious. I would rather punch myself in the dick.

lol, yeah thats what I was thinking. As a member of the Constitution Party myself, I sincerely hope they endorse Ron Paul. RP resonates with the CP base and funding any other candidate at this critical point in time is simply a waste of money. The current candidate slated to run for the CP ticket Jerome Corsi of WorldNetDaily, not even credible.

[kylebrotherton]

Am I right in thinking that the Constitution party is the Libertarian party for Christian zealots.

Basically.

Ron Paul is awesome. He gets support from Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, Constitution Party members, etc.

I think many of the minor parties (or at least their members) could easily support Ron Paul. I was with the American Heritage Party, myself.

[kevinh-SD]

[QUOTE=tsoldrin;35458]AFAIK the Constitution party is the largest 'third' party in the U.S. and is substantially larger than the Libertarian party. It's most likely the place where the droves of compassionate conservatives have run to after the neocon takeover of the GOP. I think they'd probably be monsterously huge if it weren't for the heavy Christian bias in their platform... especially in these times of heavy two-party dissatisfaction.[QUOTE]

Sorry Tsoldrin, unless things have changed radically in the last couple of years, the LP is bigger that the CP. LP has more members, more elected officials, routinely gets ballot status in all 50 states. Now this year, the CP may eclipse the LP, but that is only because almost all the LP members are switching to GOP to support Ron Paul. If Ron Paul makes it to the general election, I would be surprised if the LP even runs anyone other than a presidential candidate. Actually in states where fusion candidates are allowed, I can see both the LP and CP nominating RP. ;)

The big issue that divides the CP and LP is abortion. CP has a pro-life litmus test. LP is divided on Abortion, and allows both views in it's "big tent." :rolleyes:

While the CP is against, pornography, gambling, drugs, etc. They feel it's not supposed to be a federal issue, so are against censorship, against the drug war, want an end to Roe v Wade, etc.

Later.

[sunny]

I was looking around, found this poll, and was surprised to see not only the results of the poll, but the purpose of this poll as well.

Take the poll, and check it out: http://www.constitutionparty.com/surveys/index.php?sid=2

This is from the official website for the Constitution Party, which last was updated, has ballot access in 15 States, and will have a fund to fight for access in other states.

Ron Paul has Third Party Support! :D

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i just wrote an e to them and asked them why not support dr. paul instead of throwing another candidate into the mix. i asked them if his philosophy is really different than theirrs.....i have no problem with the constitution party - it just doesn't make sense!
michael badnarik has said the same - all "other" parties need to unite behind dr. paul!
I totaly agree.
This fragmentation is not helping - it's hurting!

[sunny]

I love taking polls that ask for a 2nd choice. I'm always staring at the names and thinking are you fucking serious. I would rather punch myself in the dick.
come on please - your langauage is unneccessary. do you really need to speak like that?
- NO!

[LibertyCzar]

AFAIK the Constitution party is the largest 'third' party in the U.S. and is substantially larger than the Libertarian party. It's most likely the place where the droves of compassionate conservatives have run to after the neocon takeover of the GOP. I think they'd probably be monsterously huge if it weren't for the heavy Christian bias in their platform... especially in these times of heavy two-party dissatisfaction.


Here's my question... if Paul is on more than one ticket, will votes for him in both tickets be lumped into one or will he be dividing his own votes??

If Ron Paul was the nominee for a regular party, and if he was the nominee for Unity 08, you would only be able to vote for one of the two tickets.

[PatriotOne]

Basically.

Ron Paul is awesome. He gets support from Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, Constitution Party members, etc.

I think many of the minor parties (or at least their members) could easily support Ron Paul. I was with the American Heritage Party, myself.


Just goes to show how most people are the same when they hear just good old common sense. That whole party line is a farce IMO. It only serves to divide and conquer the voter's. I've never voted along party lines...it's just never made any sense to me to do so.

[LibertyCzar]

Sorry Tsoldrin, unless things have changed radically in the last couple of years, the LP is bigger that the CP. LP has more members, more elected officials, routinely gets ballot status in all 50 states. Now this year, the CP may eclipse the LP, but that is only because almost all the LP members are switching to GOP to support Ron Paul. If Ron Paul makes it to the general election, I would be surprised if the LP even runs anyone other than a presidential candidate. Actually in states where fusion candidates are allowed, I can see both the LP and CP nominating RP. ;)

The big issue that divides the CP and LP is abortion. CP has a pro-life litmus test. LP is divided on Abortion, and allows both views in it's "big tent." :rolleyes:

While the CP is against, pornography, gambling, drugs, etc. They feel it's not supposed to be a federal issue, so are against censorship, against the drug war, want an end to Roe v Wade, etc.

I will refer once again to my signature. There are three branches of government and there are three levels of government. The Feds can believe anything they want, as far as I'm concerned, as long as they advocate allowing the States to determine policy. The Constitution Party might sound too Christian to be broadly appealing. But I want to point out something. When we go to vote, we go to vote for people in the State and Local Governments too. So what if the Feds abolish everything you like and advocate everything you hate IF THEY ADVOCATE LEAVING IT TO THE STATES TO DECIDE SUCH MATTERS. That is the way it should be. So if we want a certain policy, we just have to vote in some at the STATE level. For me, the Constitution Party is perfect for the Federal Government. However, I would want a different party in control of State and Local government. The point is that we get to vote for all three. And all three levels of government have a different purpose.

[LibertyCzar]

Just goes to show how most people are the same when they hear just good old common sense. That whole party line is a farce IMO. It only serves to divide and conquer the voter's. I've never voted along party lines...it's just never made any sense to me to do so.

The first few sessions of Congress were divided into a Pro-Administration (Executive) Party and an opposition Anti-Administration Party. Then it split between the Federalists and Democratic-Republicans. At some point the Whig Party came in.

Parties, per se, are not bad, it's just the way they are split now is insane.

[LibertyEagle]

Am I right in thinking that the Constitution party is the Libertarian party for Christian zealots.

Well, they take a firm stance against illegal immigration, which the Libertarian party doesn't do. The Libertarian Party calling people xenophobes and advocating open borders sure turns me off, as I would imagine, a lot of other Americans. http://www.lp.org/issues/immigration.shtml

I just looked at the Libertarian Party website and it appears they now are against the managed trade deals we have, such as NAFTA, CAFTA, etc. In the past, I have heard several libertarians actually criticize Dr. Paul's position that the agreements we have now are not free trade agreements at all. Of course, we Dr. Paul supporters know he was right from the start.

By the way, calling the Constitution Party, "Christian zealots", is not exactly the way to get them to join hands with us in the campaign.

It might interest you to know that there are a lot of us who have supported Dr. Paul for many years who are not Libertarians. I personally am a traditional conservative and Ron Paul's principles are totally in line with my beliefs.