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FrankRep
05-24-2013, 03:04 PM
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A Defense Department survey has found a dramatic increase in sexual assault among the troops — including homosexual assaults perpetrated by male military personnel.


Homosexual Assaults Becoming a Problem in U.S. Military, DoD Survey Finds (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/15500-homosexual-assaults-becoming-a-problem-in-u-s-military-dod-survey-finds)


The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
23 May 2013


A little over a year after the “Don't Ask, Don't Tell” (DADT) ban on homosexuals in the military was officially dropped, the Department of Defense has admitted that it has a problem with sexual assault by male soldiers on other men. The Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/20/victims-of-sex-assaults-in-military-are-mostly-sil/print/) noted that, according to an anonymous survey conducted by the Defense Department among military personnel, more men than women are sexually abused in the military each year, with assaults overwhelmingly perpetrated by other men.

Results of the survey show that of the estimated 26,000 service members who were victims of sexual assault in 2012, roughly 14,000 of the victims were men, while some 12,000 were women, according to a scientific survey sample released by the Pentagon.

A 129 percent increase in sexual assaults among military personnel since 2004 has prompted Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel to launch a campaign to deal with “unwanted sexual contact,” among the troops. But the project has become more complicated by the fact that an inordinate number of the assaults are apparently being perpetrated by male homosexuals — close on the heels of their high-profile welcome into the ranks.

Elaine Donnelly, president of the Center for Military Readiness (http://www.cmrlink.org/), noted that the number of formal reports of sexual assault in the military annually skyrocketed from 1,275 to 2,949 in just eight years, and the numbers of same-sex assaults appear to be one of the factors. Donnelly said that women are identified as the assailants in just two percent of all assaults, which means that almost all of the 14,000 or so men who have been assaulted sexually were targeted by other men. “It appears that the DoD has serious problems with male-on-male sexual assaults that men are not reporting and the Pentagon doesn't want to talk about,” Donnelly charged.

Donnelly, whose group took a lead role in the fight to keep DADT in place, charged that the DoD's Sexual Assault Response and Prevention Office “continues to focus its attention on women who experience abuse but don't report it, overlooking the far greater numbers of men who, according to the survey, are experiencing abuse but not reporting it. If the Pentagon considers the survey results a credible reflection of hidden reality, they must also concede that there are more men than women who are being sexually assaulted.”

Aaron Belkin of the Palm Center, which promotes homosexuality in the military, insisted to the Washington Times that “very few” of the perpetrators of male-on-male sexual assault are homosexual, claiming that the attacks are “somewhat similar to prison rape.” Donnelly called such a notion “outrageous,” telling World Net Daily (http://www.wnd.com/2013/05/military-suffers-wave-of-gay-sex-assaults/) that the increasing numbers of same-sex assaults has the military officials flummoxed. “The Department of Defense doesn’t quite know what to do with these figures,” she said, “and so they just sort of put them in there and hope nobody notices.”

Donnelly said it is crucial to monitor the numbers of sexual assaults to document how two significant changes in the military — welcoming homosexuals and allowing an increasing role of women in combat arenas — are negatively impacting military readiness. She said DoD officials appear to be in denial over the connection between these two issues and the increase in sexual assaults among military personnel.

As for addressing the increasing problem of sexual assaults against females, she told World Net Daily that “I think we have to start with the basics, and that means basic training. Back in 1998, unanimously, the Kassebaum-Baker Commission came out with recommendations to separate basic training for Army, Air Force, and Navy trainers, [to] do it like the Marines do. The Marines train basic training separately, male and female at Parris Island. That’s a good thing to do. It’s a good first start.”

More fundamentally, she added, the DoD must “stop pretending that sexuality does not matter. You cannot solve a problem by extending it into the combat arms. The big push is for women in combat — this argument that we have to have women in the infantry so they’ll be respected more and they won’t be assaulted.”

Donnelly pointed out that while respect for women in the military is at an all-time high, so are the sexual assaults against them. She said that the Pentagon and policymakers in Congress “need to assess where we are, what has happened in the last two decades, and they need to stop pretending that a lot of sensitivity training or highly paid consultants [are] going to make a difference in the sex problems we’re seeing right now.”

In a statement released by the Center for Military Readiness, Donnelly said that both male and female military personnel deserve “reality-based policies that combine recent lessons learned with classic principles that should be strengthened, not weakened. Congress must intervene before the administration's incremental plans irreversibly extend unresolved social problems into fighting battalions that are key to mission accomplishment in the all-volunteer force.”

Acala
05-24-2013, 03:09 PM
Anybody who thinks that homosexuality in the military is something new is living in a dream world.

tod evans
05-24-2013, 03:10 PM
Another multi-hundred-thousand dollar study and cries for congress to "act"...

Congress has done enough!

Start repealing laws and stop writing new ones.

Zippyjuan
05-24-2013, 03:31 PM
You didn't hear about them but they were occuring long before "Don't ask Don't Tell". There are some 1.4 million active duty military personel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces 14,000 out of 1.4 million would be one percent. And they happen in the 'real world" as well.

And it isn't always a soldier being raped by another gay soldier. Some use it as punishment and don't see themselves as homosexual.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/04/03/the-military-s-secret-shame.html



Greg Jeloudov was 35 and new to America when he decided to join the Army. Like most soldiers, he was driven by both patriotism for his adopted homeland and the pragmatic notion that the military could be a first step in a career that would enable him to provide for his new family. Instead, Jeloudov arrived at Fort Benning, Ga., for basic training in May 2009, in the middle of the economic crisis and rising xenophobia. The soldiers in his unit, responding to his Russian accent and New York City address, called him a “champagne socialist” and a “commie ******.” He was, he told NEWSWEEK, “in the middle of the viper’s pit.” Less than two weeks after arriving on base, he was gang-raped in the barracks by men who said they were showing him who was in charge of the United States. When he reported the attack to unit commanders, he says they told him, “It must have been your fault. You must have provoked them.”


What happened to Jeloudov is a part of life in the armed forces that hardly anyone talks about: male-on-male sexual assault. In the staunchly traditional military culture, it’s an ugly secret, kept hidden by layers of personal shame and official denial. Last year nearly 50,000 male veterans screened positive for “military sexual trauma” at the Department of Veterans Affairs, up from just over 30,000 in 2003. For the victims, the experience is a special kind of hell—a soldier can’t just quit his job to get away from his abusers.

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
05-24-2013, 03:58 PM
he was gang-raped in the barracks by men


I don't care how they self-identify. That's gay.

Ranger29860
05-24-2013, 04:02 PM
Nothing new at all.Sexual assaults have been a huge issue in the military for decades. A lowering of recruitment standards (wavers for people with felonies) doesn't help the situation either. The new america is just trying to twist this to make it seem like repealing DADT has somehow opened the rape flood gates.

Zippyjuan
05-24-2013, 04:04 PM
Nothing new at all.Sexual assaults have been a huge issue in the military for decades. A lowering of recruitment standards (wavers for people with felonies) doesn't help the situation either. The new america is just trying to twist this to make it seem like repealing DADT has somehow opened the rape flood gates.

Same has been said about letting women in more roles in the miltary. But get testosterone laden young males packed together they will find ways to relieve tensions.

Ranger29860
05-24-2013, 04:08 PM
Same has been said about letting women in more roles in the miltary. But get testosterone laden young males packed together they will find ways to relieve tensions.

Plenty of countries have women in roles that we Americans (the land of the free) wont let them in and they don't have issues. A good solider doesn't let hormones dictate their actions. But sadly we have a lot of of bad soldiers in the military right now and a chain of command that ensures that those that perpetrate violence and rape within its ranks are not punished.

Bodhi
05-24-2013, 04:54 PM
Those are not American troops in the photo.

dannno
05-24-2013, 04:59 PM
Unnecessary problem is unnecessary.

Zippyjuan
05-24-2013, 05:05 PM
More from my previous link: http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/04/03/the-military-s-secret-shame.html



While many might assume the perpetrators of such assaults are closeted gay soldiers, military experts and outside researchers say assailants usually are heterosexual. Like in prisons and other predominantly male environments, male-on-male assault in the military, experts say, is motivated not by homosexuality, but power, intimidation, and domination. Assault victims, both male and female, are typically young and low-ranking; they are targeted for their vulnerability. Often, in male-on-male cases, assailants go after those they assume are gay, even if they are not. “One of the reasons people commit sexual assault is to put people in their place, to drive them out,” says Mic Hunter, author of Honor Betrayed: Sexual Abuse in America’s Military. “Sexual assault isn’t about sex, it’s about violence.”


According to Hunter and others, the repeal of the military’s policy of “don’t ask, don’t tell” might actually help the institution address the issue. Under that rule, being gay meant being fundamentally unfit to serve; it meant you didn’t belong. It also meant that victims were even more reluctant to report their attacks. “I wouldn’t say that the repeal is going to make it safe,” says Aaron Belkin, director of the Palm Center, a think tank on gays in the military. “But male victims will be a little bit less reluctant to report their assaults.” Belkin notes that it’s not just the military that avoids the issue: even gay-rights organizations are wary of it. “We don’t like to talk about it because it makes rape look like a gay issue,” Belkin says. “The military doesn't want to talk about it because, as embarrassing as male-female rape is [from their perspective], this is even worse. The very fact that there's male-on-male rape in the military means that there are warriors who aren't strong enough to fight back.”


They expanded the definition as well which increases the numbers.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/04/03/the-military-s-secret-shame.html

In recent years the Pentagon has tried to show that it takes the issue seriously, defining sexual assault in broad terms as a “spectrum of offenses from rape to nonconsensual sodomy to wrongful sexual contact, as well as attempts to commit these offenses.”

The Bavarian
05-24-2013, 05:47 PM
Why would you rape a guy to "show him who is in charge"? I mean.. how do you get it "on" if you're not gay? I understand when it happens in prison, most guys there know they'll never get another woman til the day they die, but this?

wtf


"gang raping terrorism"

green73
06-04-2013, 11:45 AM
Becoming a problem? I'd say we're there.

Pericles
06-04-2013, 12:15 PM
Plenty of countries have women in roles that we Americans (the land of the free) wont let them in and they don't have issues.

Name 5 of them.

talkingpointes
06-04-2013, 12:37 PM
You didn't hear about them but they were occuring long before "Don't ask Don't Tell". There are some 1.4 million active duty military personel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces 14,000 out of 1.4 million would be one percent. And they happen in the 'real world" as well.

And it isn't always a soldier being raped by another gay soldier. Some use it as punishment and don't see themselves as homosexual.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/04/03/the-military-s-secret-shame.html

It doesn't make it ok that a commander said it. Not to mention the numbers are in the article, it's up 128% in just 10 years. Which is more men then women. Which is the weirdest part. Would you allow your son to sleep in the barracks with these same men.

God help him should you say yes.

talkingpointes
06-04-2013, 12:39 PM
More from my previous link: http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/04/03/the-military-s-secret-shame.html



They expanded the definition as well which increases the numbers.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/04/03/the-military-s-secret-shame.html

Do you know the definition of gay sex? I don't think you are very aware of actions = reality, not talk or opinions. If I had sex with another man it wouldn't matter if it was wanted, it's still gay - by definition.

talkingpointes
06-04-2013, 12:40 PM
Name 5 of them.

Kiss Army... That's one. YMCA Army, that's two. Wait did you mean queens?

heavenlyboy34
06-04-2013, 12:45 PM
Why would you rape a guy to "show him who is in charge"? I mean.. how do you get it "on" if you're not gay? I understand when it happens in prison, most guys there know they'll never get another woman til the day they die, but this?

wtf


"gang raping terrorism"
As I understand from the article and from reading about rape psychology in college and such, rape is not necessarily about about straight/gay-it's about having power over someone else. It seems to be an ego thing more than particularly wanting "butsecks" (as torchbearer would say, lol). /ramble

talkingpointes
06-04-2013, 01:01 PM
As I understand from the article and from reading about rape psychology in college and such, rape is not necessarily about about straight/gay-it's about having power over someone else. It seems to be an ego thing more than particularly wanting "butsecks" (as torchbearer would say, lol). /ramble

Yes, it is about power. But the military numbers are not increasing. Using the world assault suggest mentally at least it wasn't anything but unwanted.

Should I be wrong. Then the military needs to go. Or be redesigned by business. Rape and sexual assaults should be unacceptable.

Also I don't think the women are being assaulted by other women. Call me crazy but I didn't see that mentioned, which would mean the men are doing it just as much in the hetero world.

I just refuse to believe a straight guy would do that to another guy to exert power. It's just gay. I don't know I have been in a lot of fights and never had the urge to penetrate someone that was down.

talkingpointes
06-04-2013, 01:05 PM
Anyone seen this ?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKHPTHx0ScQ
Tell me these guys are straight.

Hell the commander that tries to "stop" this how I imagine zippy.(no offense, you defend some pretty offensive ideas sometimes) "What, you wouldn't fuck young boys- do you want us to go home and fuck our grandmothers pussies?"

Invi
06-04-2013, 01:22 PM
Also I don't think the women are being assaulted by other women. Call me crazy but I didn't see that mentioned, which would mean the men are doing it just as much in the hetero world.

I'm willing to bet there are women assaulted by other women in the military, but I imagine the numbers are relatively low compared to man by man, and woman by man. Much like man by woman. It's silly to think it doesn't happen. We just don't hear about it.

talkingpointes
06-04-2013, 01:36 PM
I'm willing to bet there are women assaulted by other women in the military, but I imagine the numbers are relatively low compared to man by man, and woman by man. Much like man by woman. It's silly to think it doesn't happen. We just don't hear about it.

Can I go back and say that; I just meant at a lower rate of prevalence.