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green73
05-24-2013, 11:51 AM
(Philadelphia, PA, May 24, 2013)— Political prisoner and activist Adam Kokesh has released a statement from inside the Philadelphia federal prison about his planned July 4th, 2013 Open Carry March on Washington, DC. The statement was read by comedian and activist N.A. Poe, until recently a fellow prisoner of Kokesh’s, today Friday, May 24 at 1PM in front of the Philadelphia federal prison.

What follows is Kokesh’s complete and unabridged statement.

“When a government has repeatedly and deliberately failed to follow its own laws, violated the fundamental human rights of its citizens, threatened the sanctity of a free press, created institutions intended to eliminate privacy of communication, waged war at the behest of special interest that threatens the public safety, killed hundreds of children with drone strikes, imprisoned and destroyed the lives of countless individuals for victimless crimes, stifled economic opportunity to maintain the dominance of the financial elite, stolen from the people through an absurd system of taxation and inflation, sold future generations into debt slavery, and abused its power to suppress political opposition, it is unfit to exist and it becomes the duty of the people to alter or abolish that government by whatever means necessary to secure liberty and ensure peace.

“A new American revolution is long overdue. This revolution has been brewing in the hearts and minds of the people for many years, but this Independence Day, it shall take a new form as the American Revolutionary Army will march on each state capital to demand that the governors of these 50 states immediately initiate the process of an orderly dissolution of the federal government through secession and reclamation of federally held property. Should one whole year from this July 4th pass while the crimes of this government are allowed to continue, we may have passed the point at which non-violent revolution becomes impossible.

“The time to sit idly by has passed. To remain neutral is to be complicit, just doing your job is not an excuse, and the line in the sand has been drawn between the people, and the criminals in Washington, D.C. While some timid souls will say that it is too early, that we can solve this problem through democratic means provided by government, that current levels of taxation are reasonable for the services provided, and that the crimes of this government are merely a tolerable nuisance, it may already be too late.

“While there is risk in drastic action, the greater danger lies in allowing this government to continue unchallenged. So if you are content with the status quo, stay home, get fat, watch the fireworks from a safe distance, and allow this Independence Day to pass like any other. But if you see as we see, and feel as we feel, we will see you on the front lines of freedom on July 4th, 2013 for this, The Final American Revolution.”

Signed, Adam Kokesh, May 23, 2013 from a cage in the Philadelphia federal prison.

Kokesh and Poe were arrested on Saturday, May 18, 2013 while speaking to a permitted marijuana legalization rally at Independence Mall National Historic Park in center city Philadelphia, in a space specifically designated for free speech. They are being framed on felony charges of assaulting a federal officer, despite overwhelming video footage to the contrary.

“They just came after Adam [Kokesh] and N.A. Poe, the organizer of Smokedown – the only two there out of hundreds present who were taken into custody,” said Michael Salvi, an observer of the rally.

At a preliminary hearing in front of US Magistrate Judge Thomas J. Rueter in the Byrne courthouse on Monday, May 20, 2013, Kokesh and Poe were denied bail. Poe was subsequently released on Thursday, May 23, 2013. Kokesh was denied release on the same day.

About Adam Kokesh

Adam Kokesh is a former US Marine corporal and veteran of the Iraq War who is active for peace, marijuana legalization, the right to keep and bear arms and other libertarian causes. Kokesh is the host of talk radio show “Adam vs the Man.” http://adamvstheman.com. Complete information on Adam Kokesh’s arrest and federal caging is available at http://FreeAdam.net.

http://freeadam.net/2013/05/24/adam-kokesh-march-50-state-capitols/

Root
05-24-2013, 01:08 PM
Well at least he put some thought into it. God speed Adam.

belian78
05-24-2013, 01:41 PM
He pretty much just changed V's speech from V for Vendetta to fit our narrative, even used some same lines. It sucks that most people have no idea what succession is, or that we have that right.

silverhandorder
05-24-2013, 01:51 PM
Yeah we not strong enough for peaceful or violent revolt. Liberty minded people need to grow as a community before we are able to do these things.

JK/SEA
05-24-2013, 01:53 PM
4849 going to march as of 12:50pm pacific time 5/24

mind you, these are un-official numbers as its a given that many are going without RSVP.

Warlord
05-24-2013, 01:58 PM
This guy is a provocateur.

tod evans
05-24-2013, 02:00 PM
This guy is a provocateur.

Throw him in the gulag...

Oh-wait.

Michigan11
05-24-2013, 02:01 PM
So he wrote this on a sheet of paper and passed it along to someone today?

schiffheadbaby
05-24-2013, 02:04 PM
Oh warlord, you are making a big difference in the world posting 100 + plus times a day. If we just vote for the right senators in 2014 we will be free right :)?

ZENemy
05-24-2013, 02:07 PM
This guy is a provocateur.

It is possible.

If there is one thing our administration (and it seems that all pseudo dictatorships) is lacking is imagination, so...they wont make something new but repeat something that's been done before. What provocateurs in history do we have to compare him to?

sailingaway
05-24-2013, 02:16 PM
How come Poe got out and Adam didn't?

Acala
05-24-2013, 02:22 PM
I think it is a good thing that there are rabble-rousers with a liberty agenda tuning up their bullhorns. There is not enough rabble to be roused at the moment, but there WILL be and SOMEONE is going to step in front of that mob. My preference would be a Kokesh or a Rand even though they are not perfect.

tod evans
05-24-2013, 02:23 PM
How come Poe got out and Adam didn't?


I would imagine that he agreed to the terms of release set forth by the feds.

speciallyblend
05-24-2013, 02:33 PM
interesting, As a friend of Adams, i have some concern's.Keep fighting for Liberty and Our Country. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqWRaAF6_WY<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqWRaAF6_WY">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqWRaAF6_WY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqWRaAF6_WY)

sailingaway
05-24-2013, 02:34 PM
Yeah, there are drawbacks to his specific approach, but I you can't say he doesn't put himself on the line.

asurfaholic
05-24-2013, 02:41 PM
He hates us for our freedoms.

better-dead-than-fed
05-24-2013, 02:41 PM
This guy is a provocateur.

What difference would that make?

better-dead-than-fed
05-24-2013, 02:47 PM
Yeah we not strong enough for peaceful or violent revolt. Liberty minded people need to grow as a community before we are able to do these things.

What basis is there for your opinion? You tell people to wait, but for what exactly?

JK/SEA
05-24-2013, 03:20 PM
This guy is a provocateur.

no, he is not.

geez, everyone on this forum including the owner could be as well, and while we're at it, Ron Paul himself including his grand kids and dogs and cats could be as well. Hey, how about everyone on this planet, except you of course could be as well...and on Alpha Centauri i'm hearing there is as well.

oooommmm...

talkingpointes
05-24-2013, 03:28 PM
Pffftt, let's see him do a 13 hr speech about nothing and the well talk about who's doing what.

Clearly this man is a provocateur, he doesn't just tell us to sit back and everything will be fine. If we were to do any actions we would be breaking laws and going to jail. I would rather just vote and shut the fuck up.

ghengis86
05-24-2013, 03:31 PM
He pretty much just changed V's speech from V for Vendetta to fit our narrative, even used some same lines. It sucks that most people have no idea what succession is, or that we have that right.

And secessation too! ;)

chudrockz
05-24-2013, 03:39 PM
I love this guy.

CPUd
05-24-2013, 03:41 PM
http://i.imgur.com/erXLsgg.jpg

schiffheadbaby
05-24-2013, 03:42 PM
Why are some people so quick to label him a provocateur? Anyone who publically challenges the status quo government regime is a provocateur?

QueenB4Liberty
05-24-2013, 03:45 PM
I'm glad he's out! :)

Root
05-24-2013, 03:47 PM
http://i.imgur.com/erXLsgg.jpg
Still holding the mic.

better-dead-than-fed
05-24-2013, 04:00 PM
Why are some people so quick to label him a provocateur? Anyone who publically challenges the status quo government regime is a provocateur?

The labelers are provacateurs of lameness.

Working Poor
05-24-2013, 04:03 PM
I totally do not like the sight of blood...

Rudeman
05-24-2013, 04:06 PM
Glad he was released, I don't always agree with him but I do support the stand he took and it looks like he prevailed.

Brian4Liberty
05-24-2013, 04:08 PM
http://i.imgur.com/erXLsgg.jpg

Breaking: Political Prisoner released.

speciallyblend
05-24-2013, 04:12 PM
Still holding the mic.

Adam is the man fighting the man;) I LOVE ADAM KOKESH:) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADBo0s4CbvM<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADBo0s4CbvM">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADBo0s4CbvM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADBo0s4CbvM)

shane77m
05-24-2013, 04:29 PM
Adam is controlled opposition.......:rolleyes:

better-dead-than-fed
05-24-2013, 04:30 PM
Adam is controlled opposition.......:rolleyes:

That's what feds say.

green73
05-24-2013, 06:03 PM
Still holding the mic.

LOL

Natural Citizen
05-24-2013, 06:08 PM
This guy is a provocateur.

Takes one to know one.

jkr
05-24-2013, 06:27 PM
ill just put this here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_t13-0Joyc

liberty2897
05-24-2013, 07:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW_QgDXL65U

Kotin
05-24-2013, 07:50 PM
This reminds me of hanging out with constituent and hearing from him that he thought Adam was cointelpro.. Not saying I necessarily agree but still this makes one wonder.

tangent4ronpaul
05-24-2013, 08:23 PM
I'm really wondering what Adam is thinking here.

First he says a peaceful armed march
People are chartering buses across the country.
Cops say they will stop them.
Counters by going asymmetric - anywhere within DC. But that means a smaller and easier quelled crowd at the bridge.
Now he's saying march on the state capitols. And we're renting a bus, why? That will further thin the bridge ranks.

Seems like he's shooting himself in the foot.

-t

Tod
05-24-2013, 08:48 PM
I'm looking forward to Monday; hopefully he will clarify whatever it is he is thinking.

better-dead-than-fed
05-24-2013, 09:39 PM
I'm really wondering what Adam is thinking here.

First he says a peaceful armed march
People are chartering buses across the country.
Cops say they will stop them.
Counters by going asymmetric - anywhere within DC. But that means a smaller and easier quelled crowd at the bridge.
Now he's saying march on the state capitols. And we're renting a bus, why? That will further thin the bridge ranks.

Seems like he's shooting himself in the foot.

-t

In addition to posting them here, why not raise these questions with him directly?

tangent4ronpaul
05-24-2013, 09:43 PM
In addition to posting them here, why not raise these questions with him directly?

He doesn't seem real interested in responding.

I've written him before, when nothing pressing was going on in his life. Didn't get a reply.

I cross-posted a previous post on this topic to his facebook page. It got deleted.

IDK??? It's not like I haven't tried.

-t

better-dead-than-fed
05-24-2013, 09:46 PM
This reminds me of hanging out with constituent and hearing from him that he thought Adam was cointelpro.. Not saying I necessarily agree but still this makes one wonder.

Everyone's responsible for his own actions, Kokesh isn't forcing anything on anyone, so why does it matter whether or nor the government is controlling him? If people are going to do things, they should do them because it's right, not because Kokesh told them to do them. Who needs real cointelpro when the government only has to spread rumors of cointelpro in order to petrify everyone into total passivity.

better-dead-than-fed
05-24-2013, 09:47 PM
He doesn't seem real interested in responding.

I've written him before, when nothing pressing was going on in his life. Didn't get a reply.

I cross-posted a previous post on this topic to his facebook page. It got deleted.

IDK??? It's not like I haven't tried.

-t

+rep to you for trying, no rep to Kokesh for ignoring you.

RM918
05-24-2013, 09:55 PM
If that's really what he's said, he's gone too far and is putting himself into irrelevance. Whether you think it should happen or not, the vast majority of people are still too happy and content to think anything like this is the right thing to do right now. I thought the original march was risky but still worth a try, but now he's totally off the reservation if this is true. Sorry if you think he's right in all this, but it looks to me like he's gotten full of himself and his ability to do anything meaningful with this kind of talk is next to nil.

He doesn't belong in jail and I certainly don't find it a coincidence he's in there, but commanding people to march on state capitols and overthrow the government from his prison cell is borderline deranged.

RickyJ
05-24-2013, 09:57 PM
This guy is a provocateur.

A peaceful march hurts who? What has doing practically nothing accomplished so far? It can't hurt, and if it does hurt those involved, then hopefully it will wake up those not involved. Some day, at some time, something has to change or things will only get worse.

ClydeCoulter
05-24-2013, 10:00 PM
When I see a declaration, with trusted names personally penned, then I will listen.

CPUd
05-24-2013, 10:27 PM
If that's really what he's said, he's gone too far and is putting himself into irrelevance. Whether you think it should happen or not, the vast majority of people are still too happy and content to think anything like this is the right thing to do right now. I thought the original march was risky but still worth a try, but now he's totally off the reservation if this is true. Sorry if you think he's right in all this, but it looks to me like he's gotten full of himself and his ability to do anything meaningful with this kind of talk is next to nil.

He doesn't belong in jail and I certainly don't find it a coincidence he's in there, but commanding people to march on state capitols and overthrow the government from his prison cell is borderline deranged.

Well, he was in solitary for almost a week. He was fortunate in that they still come to his door more often than others, but eventually would have been a full-blown:

http://i.imgur.com/UcyFddz.jpg

RickyJ
05-24-2013, 10:41 PM
He doesn't seem real interested in responding.

I've written him before, when nothing pressing was going on in his life. Didn't get a reply.

I cross-posted a previous post on this topic to his facebook page. It got deleted.

IDK??? It's not like I haven't tried.

-t

What was the post that got deleted?

tangent4ronpaul
05-24-2013, 10:49 PM
What was the post that got deleted?

The one with the math of what the gvmt could muster and the question about the bridge (as soon as you step on it you are in DC) and the possibility of being ambushed from behind and being herded into detainment via the bridge.

Yeah, that one...

-t

jkr
05-24-2013, 10:57 PM
I MISS THE OLD TREE LOGO

anaconda
05-24-2013, 11:11 PM
So he wrote this on a sheet of paper and passed it along to someone today?

Is this the real Michigan11 or the late night provocateur that absconds with Michigan11's computer and RPF account?

PaulConventionWV
05-24-2013, 11:15 PM
He pretty much just changed V's speech from V for Vendetta to fit our narrative, even used some same lines. It sucks that most people have no idea what succession is, or that we have that right.

Secession, not succession.

speciallyblend
05-25-2013, 12:18 AM
This reminds me of hanging out with constituent and hearing from him that he thought Adam was cointelpro.. Not saying I necessarily agree but still this makes one wonder.

kotin, if adam works for the gov. I am his handler;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46bBWBG9r2o<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46bBWBG9r2o">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46bBWBG9r2o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46bBWBG9r2o)

Bman
05-25-2013, 01:15 AM
A peaceful march hurts who? What has doing practically nothing accomplished so far? It can't hurt, and if it does hurt those involved, then hopefully it will wake up those not involved. Some day, at some time, something has to change or things will only get worse.

Just make sure to stock up on some soap on a rope if you join along. You may need it.

Sometimes I think Adam has lost his mind. This is one of those cases. I don't pretend to do as much as some people in the liberty movement. I just don't pretned that a bad idea is a good idea. This is a bad idea.

talkingpointes
05-25-2013, 01:48 AM
Since when do govenment co-conspirators serve time? They are always killed. Also since when do they advise any sort of actions? Isn't that usually the opposite of what they are supposed to do? Especially ones that just might wake a bunch of people up.

talkingpointes
05-25-2013, 01:52 AM
Just make sure to stock up on some soap on a rope if you join along. You may need it.

Sometimes I think Adam has lost his mind. This is one of those cases. I don't pretend to do as much as some people in the liberty movement. I just don't pretned that a bad idea is a good idea. This is a bad idea.

Were you here for the elections, and you thought that was a good idea ? I actually think this idea is so ballsy it might even wake up a few men. I don't know how much more people are going to take. I can openly aggitate people otherwise not even open to anti-government ideas and they cheer it along now.

People have no hope in either party. I don't care about polls they reflect the amount of animals still in the pen. Once enough leave the polls will be the only things left of what was. It's all just a dream. Government is just what we think it is and nothing more. If you think they are just going to leave us alone then you will look for patterns to fit that.

Just hope you're not wrong.

better-dead-than-fed
05-25-2013, 02:54 AM
Since when do govenment co-conspirators serve time? They are always killed. Also since when do they advise any sort of actions? Isn't that usually the opposite of what they are supposed to do? Especially ones that just might wake a bunch of people up.

I'll go with the cointelpro guy who supports libertarianism day in and out over the non-cointelpro folks with nothing to say. Which is what you're saying, but I'm just saying it again.

better-dead-than-fed
05-25-2013, 03:05 AM
Just make sure to stock up on some soap on a rope if you join along. You may need it.

Sometimes I think Adam has lost his mind. This is one of those cases. I don't pretend to do as much as some people in the liberty movement. I just don't pretned that a bad idea is a good idea. This is a bad idea.

So hang to the rear, and let others protect you when the government tries to bend you over.

jkr
05-25-2013, 03:22 AM
doesnt maTTer
FREEDOM trumps the mechanizations of men

jkr
05-25-2013, 03:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=SKdVq_vNAAI&NR=1

jkr
05-25-2013, 03:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSVTOMkJdqs

osan
05-25-2013, 05:59 AM
This guy is a provocateur.

Your point being?

Bman
05-25-2013, 12:30 PM
So hang to the rear, and let others protect you when the government tries to bend you over.

It's naive to believe I'm asking or needing protection from someone I have not asked. Have fun with this hair brained idea you are supporting.

osan
05-25-2013, 01:51 PM
+rep to you for trying, no rep to Kokesh for ignoring you.

He apparently ignored me as well. I offered help in planning. <crickets> He could have at least written back with a "fuck off" message, but I guess these days that's too much work for people. I cannot imagine he was THAT swamped with messages, but if so he really needs a staff.

Lucille
05-25-2013, 02:15 PM
@adamkokesh (https://twitter.com/adamkokesh/status/338361952818565122) THE FINAL AMERICAN REVOLUTION! http://fb.me/BtGhi0Wp

The Plan To “Take Back America” – Place ALL state and federal capitols under ‘Civil Disobedient’ Siege
http://americasvoicenow.org/the-plan-to-take-back-america-place-all-state-and-federal-capitols-under-civil-disobedient-siege/

pcosmar
05-25-2013, 02:24 PM
I do not know if he is the guy,, or if this is the time.

But sooner or later,,,,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUC0LCi1VRk

Somebody will.

better-dead-than-fed
05-25-2013, 04:05 PM
It's naive to believe I'm asking or needing protection from someone I have not asked

Just make sure to stock up on some soap on a rope if you don't accept protection. You may need it.

Weston White
05-26-2013, 08:23 PM
Overall I find this July 4th proposal and its subsequent preemptory challenge to be a highly motivational wakeup call and a novel exercise in both coordinating mass-protesting and seeking governmental redress; although I find it worrisome that there is no end-goal being directly stated, per se. I mean, should the context of Adam’s proposal be ignored what are the underlying objectives (e.g., to begin following the U.S. Constitution as by strict constitutionalism (i.e., originating libertarianism or its original intent), to commission an entirely new Con-Con and completely rewrite and ratify a new foundation of tenets for America, to establish America under anarchism rule or monarchism rule, etc.)?

Being that the vast majority of Americans are still “asleep” or otherwise hold strongly to progressivism (and internationalism) due to their (our) socially ensconced upbringing, I would greatly worry that if a uniform objective were not to be maintained in steady view, we will just end up with an ill-fated compromise or an otherwise corrupted, misconceived constitution—such as the one asserted by the Constitution for the Newstates of America (http://www.hdv.defendindependence.us/index.phtml?document=newstates_constitution&query=analysis) project. Hence, a constitution that provides only for a very limited core of individual “rights”, and which may be suspended at the whims of the government, for any reason, for any duration, at any time.

Bman
05-26-2013, 08:37 PM
Just make sure to stock up on some soap on a rope if you don't accept protection. You may need it.

We all live life best we can understanding action and reaction. Knowing when and where and how to proceed with that is where you will find a gift. Not knowing will give you nothing but your worst desires. You should know the out come going into these actions.

muh_roads
05-26-2013, 08:40 PM
This guy is a provocateur.

I'm glad he is. Bring the tyrants out of the woodwork before it is too late.

Krzysztof Lesiak
05-27-2013, 08:33 AM
Well good luck, hope it doesn't turn violent or make and excuse for our benevolent gov to further curtail our liberties.

ClydeCoulter
05-27-2013, 08:44 AM
While I am not opposed to what Kokesh is trying to do with the Armed DC March, I will have to give more consideration to this "abolish the federal government" idea. He is calling for secession and termination of the Constitution of the United states of America, if I read this correctly. Would we not end up with a "free for all" at that point (Socialist Republic of California, Kingdom of New York, etc...)? Removing officers of government that violate The Constitution, I can see, a "reset" I can see. Am I making any sense here?

Brian4Liberty
07-04-2013, 02:36 PM
Was this called off?

CPUd
07-04-2013, 02:48 PM
Not exactly:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sAGGoPidEY

RickyJ
07-04-2013, 02:55 PM
Not exactly:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sAGGoPidEY

That's not a march, that is just Kokesh loading a shotgun.

PSYOP
07-04-2013, 03:19 PM
TROLL KOKESH. Why you no have trigger on gun, sir? Hahhahah. :rolleyes:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qc8YpWjK_A

PatriotOne
07-04-2013, 04:59 PM
Not exactly:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sAGGoPidEY

Open Carry March on DC a Success

So that's what success looks like to Kokesh eh. Prob needs to raise the bar a few miles. Wish I had time to mock my favorite clown today but got a swimming pool, bbq, and cold beers waiting for me elsewhere. I'll be back tomorrow though :p. Muhahahahahaha........

Michigan11
07-04-2013, 05:33 PM
Well that is a sad ass joke if I've ever seen one, re the video. Kokesh is looking for an audience to sell to that is it. We know there are many others as well.

presence
07-04-2013, 06:08 PM
Kokesh is lighting brush fires.

Let them burn.

noneedtoaggress
07-04-2013, 06:16 PM
Well that was underwhelming. But not too surprising, either.

green73
07-04-2013, 06:20 PM
Well that was underwhelming. But not too surprising, either.

This ain't Egypt.

shane77m
07-04-2013, 06:22 PM
This ain't Egypt.

The government cheese hasn't ran out yet.

green73
07-04-2013, 06:26 PM
The government cheese hasn't ran out yet.

You would think the people born of revolution would have revolted long ago... (PSYCH)

Michigan11
07-04-2013, 06:29 PM
Here's the deal, and I'm just going to put it out there. The revolutionaries or those that are leaning that way, are going to be types that don't need to follow someone. In fact most at first will be lone wolves, lone wolf packs, and that is a fact. Don't look for any leaders and it's not a good idea to have any, but I gave Kokesh the benefit of the doubt like others, but we don't need them.

What we need is to rile up the minds of others and solidifiy our own. Then we see what happens.

green73
07-04-2013, 06:39 PM
What we need is to rile up the minds of others and solidifiy our own. Then we see what happens.

We need to be radical like Ron Paul was for that.

Michigan11
07-04-2013, 06:43 PM
We need to be radical like Ron Paul was for that.

We are. There are many ways to reach a mind, and not all minds are alike. Therefore, this movement, some will disagree that there is a movement, but this movement is pressing on every angle at all times. The key is to grow all pressing angles, not just one angle.

We live in a natural cycle, and Ron Paul pressed in all angles, and I believe believes in a natural cycle as well. AS in there are little cycles intertwining bigger cycles, etc.

Timing is the key.

green73
07-04-2013, 06:51 PM
We are. There are many ways to reach a mind, and not all minds are alike. Therefore, this movement, some will disagree that there is a movement, but this movement is pressing on every angle at all times. The key is to grow all pressing angles, not just one angle.

We live in a natural cycle, and Ron Paul pressed in all angles, and I believe believes in a natural cycle as well. AS in there are little cycles intertwining bigger cycles, etc.

Timing is the key.

The time is right to be "radical," i.e., tell the unadulterated truth about the reality of what's going on, not to spread mealy-mouthed bullshit in an attempt to corral the sheep for their vote.

damiengwa
07-04-2013, 07:01 PM
To all those criticizing this: WTF did YOU do this J4? Drink beer and eat hot dogs? At least this guy put on a suit and took a risk for liberty. Trigger? who cares. Just like who cares if he smoked tobacco in front of the WH last week. When you keyboard losers go out there and show the rest of us how its done, then you earn the right to criticize the Kokesh. Till then, just shove it. I hope the cognitive dissonance of seeing how liberty is really spread melts your two brain cells and prevents you from contaminating the gene pool with offspring.

Kokesh is a man of the people. He is not perfect, ney, he is just a man. He is doing it the best he knows how. So when you grow a pair and dedicate your life, ass and face to activism, I will respect your opinion. Having 10K posts on some message board makes you nothing, absolutely nothing.

Lead, follow, or get outs the way.

Michigan11
07-04-2013, 07:26 PM
The time is right to be "radical," i.e., tell the unadulterated truth about the reality of what's going on, not to spread mealy-mouthed bullshit in an attempt to corral the sheep for their vote.

I'm a radical, that tells it how it is, and donates to the liberty candidates to tell those mealy-mouthed voters how it is. Ron was never arrested thankfully, otherwise he'd have the biggest power team of lawyers a moneybomb could buy!

Michigan11
07-04-2013, 07:27 PM
To all those criticizing this: WTF did YOU do this J4? Drink beer and eat hot dogs? At least this guy put on a suit and took a risk for liberty. Trigger? who cares. Just like who cares if he smoked tobacco in front of the WH last week. When you keyboard losers go out there and show the rest of us how its done, then you earn the right to criticize the Kokesh. Till then, just shove it. I hope the cognitive dissonance of seeing how liberty is really spread melts your two brain cells and prevents you from contaminating the gene pool with offspring.

Kokesh is a man of the people. He is not perfect, ney, he is just a man. He is doing it the best he knows how. So when you grow a pair and dedicate your life, ass and face to activism, I will respect your opinion. Having 10K posts on some message board makes you nothing, absolutely nothing.

Lead, follow, or get outs the way.

Forget about it. I don't care, but I do care about freedom and kickin ass when the time is right, and it is coming when we will have to kick the crap out of alot bastards. We should do it while we are drinking beers roasting hot dogs over the fire too.

AuH20
07-04-2013, 07:30 PM
Kokesh really tries too hard, in that it makes me question his genuineness. Ok, you just quickly loaded a Mossberg shotgun in a plaza not far from the Capitol? Now what?

green73
07-04-2013, 07:48 PM
Kokesh really tries too hard, in that it makes me question his genuineness. Ok, you just quickly loaded a Mossberg shotgun in a plaza not far from the Capitol? Now what?

I know, what a dick! He hasn't done a fraction of what you have for freedom!

AuH20
07-04-2013, 07:54 PM
I know, what a dick! He hasn't done a fraction of what you have for freedom!

This has nothing to with the phony Freedom quotient. Dealing with the coming storm will require resolve as opposed to stunts.

liberty2897
07-04-2013, 07:58 PM
Another keyboard looser here. Drinking beer alone today.

Thank you Adam for doing what you do.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k_PwWfspE8

damiengwa
07-04-2013, 08:52 PM
Suppose a unit rolled by whilst he was loading that Mossberg...could have ended badly. Yeah, he took a risk. They may even go after him and raid his place over that vid.

Me? Honestly i did eat 2 hot dogs today and had a few beers. Thats why i won't belittle even the slightest of activism done today, because I have no moral authority to.

Fact is we need like thousands of Kokeshs. Then it starts to matter. And thats what he wants, he wants you an me to get off our fat asses and join in. He doesn't even want to lead us, just inspire us. How can people seriously think he's just an attention whore, or a plant. Really? C'mon, he's trying to wake people up and stir them to action.

Now I'm off to crack another Heineken (not even a fracking American beer), and you know what, the coals are still hot so i might just throw on another hot dog, I'll do it for Kokesh, I'll do it for liberty! Its the most I've done today and admittedly that's sad. But I have the common sense not to criticize this man. He did SOMETHING.

angelatc
07-04-2013, 08:58 PM
My son and his friends drove over to lansing today, and said there were only a few people there. There were 3 protests scheduled, adam's, an end the fed, and an anti nsa.

he said part of the problem was that there was nobody working today, so most of the protesters had decided to go to grand rapids before they even got there.

Slutter McGee
07-04-2013, 10:19 PM
My son and his friends drove over to lansing today, and said there were only a few people there. There were 3 protests scheduled, adam's, an end the fed, and an anti nsa.

he said part of the problem was that there was nobody working today, so most of the protesters had decided to go to grand rapids before they even got there.

That and Kokesh is a crazy fucking nutcase.

Slutter McGee

Warrior_of_Freedom
07-04-2013, 10:21 PM
To all those criticizing this: WTF did YOU do this J4? Drink beer and eat hot dogs? At least this guy put on a suit and took a risk for liberty. Trigger? who cares. Just like who cares if he smoked tobacco in front of the WH last week. When you keyboard losers go out there and show the rest of us how its done, then you earn the right to criticize the Kokesh. Till then, just shove it. I hope the cognitive dissonance of seeing how liberty is really spread melts your two brain cells and prevents you from contaminating the gene pool with offspring.

Kokesh is a man of the people. He is not perfect, ney, he is just a man. He is doing it the best he knows how. So when you grow a pair and dedicate your life, ass and face to activism, I will respect your opinion. Having 10K posts on some message board makes you nothing, absolutely nothing.

Lead, follow, or get outs the way.
Whatever dude. He got jailed and quickly caved in and cancelled his March that was supposed to happen at D.C. I'm sure Mr. Shadow expressed his displeasure with the planned march.

Neil Desmond
07-05-2013, 01:36 AM
TROLL KOKESH. Why you no have trigger on gun, sir? Hahhahah. :rolleyes:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qc8YpWjK_A
I'm not sure how you can tell & I'm no shotgun expert, but I am wondering about a few things along similar lines myself, such as whether he was loading it with "live" or blank ammo, did he have other internal components removed to make it non functional for a weapon (e.g., to technically make it legal), etc. I'm also wondering if this video was actually green screened (I'm no expert on analyzing videos, either), or when was it actually recorded. I live about half an hour south of DC (20 - 25 miles), and as far as I saw we had mostly clear sky weather yesterday (July 4th); in that video, that's what the weather appeared to be more like about a couple days ago.

PatriotOne
07-05-2013, 06:28 AM
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green73
07-05-2013, 06:31 AM
That and Kokesh is a crazy fucking nutcase.

Slutter McGee

That is a forum member you're talking about.

green73

QuickZ06
07-10-2013, 07:57 AM
What a waste Adam, no one will hear your message.........not even MSM will pick up on it...................Some of you in here must be some badass activists and get a lot of coverage to diss on a guy who is out there daily exercising his rights for all of us.


http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/07/10/gun-advocate-adam-kokesh-arrested-after-posting-video-loading-shotgun-in-d-c/
http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/265733/373/Feds-Searching-Gun-Rights-Activist-Home
http://www.wtop.com/149/3384202/Adam-Kokesh-arrested-in-Herndon
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Police-Serving-Warrant-at-Home-of-Gun-Rights-Activist--214849071.html
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/us/dc-kokesh-search/index.html
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/10/police-search-home-gun-rights-activist-adam-kokesh/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/activist-adam-kokesh-reportedly-arrested-in-herndon/2013/07/10/73dbc8c2-e943-11e2-8f22-de4bd2a2bd39_story.html
http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/22799261/police-serving-warrant-for-arrest-of-pro-gun-activist-adam-kokesh
http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/07/u-s-park-police-serving-seach-warrant-in-relation-to-adam-kokesh-91171.html
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/gun-rights-activist-adam-kokesh-arrested
http://inthecapital.streetwise.co/2013/07/10/armed-march-on-dc-organizer-adam-kokesh-arrested/
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/10/activist-who-loaded-shotgun-in-d-c-arrested-on-gun-and-drugs-charges/
http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/265733/188/Feds-Searching-Gun-Rights-Activist-Home