Tamerlan Tsarnaev and man killed by FBI in Orlando responsible for 2011 triple homicide

[Brian4Liberty]

Breaking:

JUST IN: Boston bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev and man killed by FBI in Orlando responsible for 2011 triple homicide, sources say
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/337305193802788865

[Brian4Liberty]

A friend of Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev implicated himself and Tsarnaev in an unsolved triple homicide before authorities say he instigated a violent confrontation that resulted in his death early Wednesday morning, CBS News correspondent Bob Orr reports.

Law enforcement sources told Orr that the man, a Chechen identified as Ibragim Todashev, implicated himself and Tsarnaev to authorities in the 2011 killings in Waltham, Mass., under questioning Wednesday at Todashev's apartment in Orlando, Fla.

Authorities went to the apartment after having obtained what the sources described as strong evidence to suggest that Todashev, Tsarnaev and his brother Dzhokhar were involved in the killings on the tenth anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks. The FBI had already interviewed Todashev more than once before Wednesday.

More:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57585725/ibragim-todashev-implicated-tsarnaev-himself-in-triple-homicide-before-fbi-shooting/

[Warlord]

No judge no jury just a "source" has decided that he's guilty.

[brandon]

lmao, yea ok.

[better-dead-than-fed]

What is the name of the person who supposedly witnessed the confession?

[Warlord]

And of course every journalist will believe the cops and reprint it without questioning any of it.

POLICE said he did it so it must be true!

[DGambler]

The "information" is given out in drips over time so that the average person cannot remember what they heard and when.... A year from now, all people will remember is that Tsarnev murdered people as well as committed the bombings and never question the validity of the information.

[Warlord]

Already on twitter you can see so called professional journalists saying its "confirmed", case closed. No questions. Absolutely believing everything the government and cops feed them.

[Zippyjuan]

He seems like he could be pretty violent.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fbi-shoots-florida-man-linked-boston-marathon-bombing/story?id=19231642


The man shot dead by an FBI agent in Orlando, Florida early today was "about to sign a statement" admitting to a role, along with Boston Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev, in an unsolved triple murder in Massachusetts in 2011, two people with direct knowledge of the case told ABC News.

Ibragim Todashev "just went crazy," and pulled a knife during his interview with the FBI, said state and federal law enforcement officials briefed on the latest strange twist in the investigation of the Boston Marathon bombing.

One official said an FBI agent was stabbed several times, although his injuries were described by the FBI as "non-life threatening."

FBI agents and Massachusetts state police began to question Todashev after his name and phone number were recovered from the phone of the dead bombing suspect. Tamerlan Tsarnaev was killed in a shootout with police days after he and his younger brother Dzhokhar allegedly planted two bombs near the finish line at the Boston Marathon April 15, killing three and injuring more than 260 others. Dzhokhar was later captured and is in custody.

Todashev and Tamerlan Tsarnaev both fought mixed martial arts in the name of Boston's Wai Kru gym, where one of the 2011 triple murder victims, Brendan Mess, also trained, according to a former fighter there and law enforcement officials.

According to officials, Todashev was initially being questioned about any role in the marathon bombing when it emerged he had connections to the gruesome murder. There is no indication Todashev was tied to the bombing, sources familiar with the case said.

In the wake of the bombing, detectives developed DNA evidence linking both Tamerlan Tsarnaev and his younger brother Dzhokhar to the triple murder scene.


The three men who were killed had their throats slit and their bodies were left with cash and marijuana placed on top of them. The murder took place on September 11, 2011, the ten year anniversary of the al Qaeda terror attacks on New York and Washington.



According to a recent Florida police report, Todashev was arrested May 4 and booked with aggravated battery for allegedly fighting with a father and son over a parking space in a mall parking lot in Kissimmee, Fla. Todashev had told police he fought in self-defense as the son "came at him swinging" after Todashev pushed the father. The father did not want to press charges, but the son did, the report said.

In February 2010, Todashev had a run-in with the law in Boston when he was arrested after getting in a fight with strangers in which one witness said he was "clearly the aggressor," according to a police report.


In the parking lot incident, the kid lost several teeth, had a split lip and a large pool of blood and was taken to hospital. Over a parking space.

http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/05/22/suspect-slain-fla-marathon-bombing-probe-was-mixed-martial-arts-fighter-got-into-fight-over-parking-space-orlando-mall/ButkFn5jlxN3NJlcrRAXqJ/story.html

Ibragim A. Todashev, the man shot to death in Florida by authorities investigating the Boston Marathon bombings, fought as a lightweight in the mixed martial arts sport in Florida and was quick to fight with others he disagreed with, according to public records and some who knew him.

On May 4, Todashev was arrested in Orlando after a heated dispute over a mall parking space with a father and his adult son ended with the son lying in a pool of blood, his teeth loosened by the blows Todashev delivered, according to a police report.

And in Feburary 2010, police had to wrestle the wiry Russian native to the ground when they were forced to step in between him and another driver following a crash in Boston’s Downtown Crossing.

“You say something about my mother, I will kill you!” Todashev shouted at the other driver, according to the police report in the case.

[alucard13mm]

FBI is incompetent...

also, why not pin JFK assassination on Tsarnaev as well.. Hell.

[Warlord]

Zippy, you're believing info being fed to you by the press and cops?

What if they told you he was Christ and it was the 2nd coming, would you believe that too?

[Zippyjuan]

Is there an error in the information? Do you have a more reliable source on the subject? Thank you for sharing if you do.

[Warlord]

Is there an error in the information? Do you have a more reliable source on the subject? Thank you for sharing if you do.

? You're believing what officials and cops are saying or you're believing what they're telling us is the truth.

This is a common problem. You're believing everything as if it was true. It's most probably a load of bullshit and they killed this guy because he was an FBI asset. They were telling him not to leave or go back home according to his "friend" and he was obviously ignoring them. The FBI setup most of these terror plots.

[Warlord]

Here's an interesting article I found in POLITICO the other day.

Boston Marathon bombings reignite debate over terror stings


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/boston-marathon-bombings-terrorism-stings-91584.html#ixzz2U3vTMOPT

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See Zippy, they admit in this article that they setup most of these terror plots as "stings" and run most of these assets including very likely this guy.

[better-dead-than-fed]

Is there an error in the information? Do you have a more reliable source on the subject? Thank you for sharing if you do.

It's undisputed that the FBI, acting with premeditation, failed to record their encounter with Todashev. That shows that they don't want you to know what really happened during the encounter, so why would you rely on their claims about the encounter?

[Warlord]

At least 150 people have been convicted through the FBI’s use of terrorism-related stings since 2001, according to journalist Trevor Aaronson’s new book, “The Terror Factory: Inside the FBI’s Manufactured War on Terrorism.” The actual number of stings could be far higher, since those that don’t result in prosecution rarely get reported.

In the Washington area, sting operations have been used successfully in recent years to plan and prosecute plots to carry out a suicide bombing of the U.S. Capitol and to set off bombs in Metrorail stations. In Oregon, Mohamed Mohamud was convicted of attempting to blow up the Portland Christmas tree lighting ceremony back in 2010. And a Massachusetts man, Rezwan Ferdaus, was recently sentenced to 17 years in prison for plotting to fly model airplanes carrying plastics explosives into the Capitol and the Pentagon.

In fact, lawyers say the government has yet to lose a terror sting case it prosecuted — although that record may belie a more complicated set of results.

The actual number of sting operations run may be far higher than 150, since those that don’t result in prosecution rarely get reported.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/boston-marathon-bombings-terrorism-stings-91584.html#ixzz2U3wKaUo1

[ghengis86]

A friend of Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev implicated himself and Tsarnaev in an unsolved triple homicide before authorities say he instigated a violent confrontation that resulted in his death early Wednesday morning, CBS News correspondent Bob Orr reports.

Law enforcement sources told Orr that the man, a Chechen identified as Ibragim Todashev, implicated himself and Tsarnaev to authorities in the 2011 killings in Waltham, Mass., under questioning Wednesday at Todashev's apartment in Orlando, Fla.

Authorities went to the apartment after having obtained what the sources described as strong evidence to suggest that Todashev, Tsarnaev and his brother Dzhokhar were involved in the killings on the tenth anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks. The FBI had already interviewed Todashev more than once before Wednesday.

More:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57585725/ibragim-todashev-implicated-tsarnaev-himself-in-triple-homicide-before-fbi-shooting/

'Resulted in his early death'

So his death was certain; the timing, not so much...

[Warlord]

That's over 10 terror plots a year the FBI are setting up... almost 1 a month !!

That means they must literally come in contact with dozens of these guys and have them on the payroll or encouraging them to do what they want to do.

It's pretty amazing and scandalous.

[angelatc]

? You're believing what officials and cops are saying or you're believing what they're telling us is the truth.

This is a common problem. You're believing everything as if it was true. It's most probably a load of bullshit and they killed this guy because he was an FBI asset. They were telling him not to leave or go back home according to his "friend" and he was obviously ignoring them. The FBI setup most of these terror plots.


It was pretty savvy of them to kill those people then wait all this time to use those deaths to cover up their....well, something.

[Warlord]

If you read the original account from the "friend" the FBI were in daily contact with this man and were telling him not to go home. He knew the Boston bomber (probably part of the same cell thrown together by the FBI) and he was getting nervous and wanting to go home to mommy. The FBI didn;t want him freaking out. They most likely killed him to silence him and stop the freaking out.

[Zippyjuan]

? You're believing what officials and cops are saying or you're believing what they're telling us is the truth.

This is a common problem. You're believing everything as if it was true. It's most probably a load of bullshit and they killed this guy because he was an FBI asset. They were telling him not to leave or go back home according to his "friend" and he was obviously ignoring them. The FBI setup most of these terror plots.

You are making assumptions without facts. That is more reliable? You know this how?

[Aratus]

its death by cop
rather than 2 slit
wrists in a bathtub.
the unsolved triple
homicide had gone
cold case until revived
by the bombings on
the 15th of april...

[Zippyjuan]

It's undisputed that the FBI, acting with premeditation, failed to record their encounter with Todashev. That shows that they don't want you to know what really happened during the encounter, so why would you rely on their claims about the encounter?

SO they also stabbed the FBI agent several times to aid with covering it up? Is that logical?

[Carson]

Man! Those articles and the descriptions of what happened are all over the place. They jumped from here to there and over here, all without ever getting anywhere...

weird.

[Cap]

And of course every journalist will believe the cops and reprint it without questioning any of it.

POLICE said he did it so it must be true!The majority I agree, but I can think of one right now off the top of my head that wouldn't...Ben Swann.

[Aratus]

the 19 year old could be innocent of
the triple murder a few years back but
it does look like the feds really hate
labeling everything the work of a cell
network. this cuts either way. someone
had disappeared a Brown U. student
and the poor guy had looked like he was
the mad bomber until his very dead body
was fished out of a local river. if the older
brother, the 26 year old, had planned and
carried out everything as he got increasingly
radicalized, and he on occasion would rely
on a partner or two, the whole gov't case
is then more civilian than if a top notch
terror cell came here and was all over the
place. someone wants to fry the 19 year old,
hence the WMD charge instead of murder one.
things are going to be more tense after the
beheading in london of a poor soldier in his
civilian clothes on a london street. expect a
very long trial for the 19 year old, with intense
security. someone is trying to avoid a linkage.
if they opt for two dead & lethal & feral dudes
who look "lone wolf" then maybe the kid gets life.

[Warlord]

You are making assumptions without facts. That is more reliable? You know this how?

I've just given you an article that says the FBI setup - on average - 1 of these terror stings a month.

Knowing this how many brown people with strange names do you think they must come in contact with or have as assets?

[better-dead-than-fed]

SO they also stabbed the FBI agent several times to aid with covering it up? Is that logical?

Why wouldn't they self-inflict a few stab wounds to distract from their murder and fabrication of a confession? Remember, these are people who deliberately failed to record the encounter. ETA: I've partaken in non-recorded encounters with the DOJ, so my doubt is founded in personal experience.

[Aratus]

Warlord... as i said in another thread, i thought jim garrison very correct
in the way he asked questions. ruby and his convenient handgun cut short
a trial that would have exposed a network of quasi-tangental directions.
the muzzle on the warren commission was very tight but it may not have
been LBJ's buttocks that was spared much grief by j.edgar when he sent
his better agents all over the map in late november of 1963 so as to settle
down a total potus~paranoia almost nixonian in its sweep. someone hates
the idea that the two bombs that exploded in boston this april 15th tend to
also point overseas. i thought everything to be micro~managed. yes... the
feds are sitting heavy on this, and keeping the speculations down to two lone
wolf individuals who are quite dead. they may hang or fry the kid, or he is a lifer
if guilty. if he is like john surratt in 1865, and has a degree of guilt but is not
the group's powell/payne or j.w.booth, he is a smallfry dude who is an afterthought.
the type of bomb begs a question, as do several murky events. admittedly like the
events we are aware of from 1963, the gov't may have set up two dead patsies
very deliberately. i am assuming 911 was not an "inside job" but that there were
gov't people more aware of things than what the public has been told. i think that
the FBI and CIA were not talking prior to September 12th of 2001 & things were like
this from the time of j.edgar hoover onwards. someone wants a quick trial for the kid.

[paulbot24]

- One official said an FBI agent was stabbed several times, although his injuries were described by the FBI as "non-life threatening."

Yeah, you know those MMA fighters.....always instinctively grabbing for their knives. The timing, details, and how damn neat and clean this is just reeks. Did he leave a diary behind with nothing but "Allah Akbar" and "Fuck the FBI. They all must die" written over and over again in his own blood too?