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Warlord
05-22-2013, 05:30 AM
http://img.ehowcdn.com/article-new/ehow/images/a07/t6/85/check-fbi-records-800x800.jpg

A man who was shot dead by an FBI agent late Tuesday night in Orlando knew one of the suspects in the Boston Marathon bombings, a man identified as friend of the victim said Wednesday.

The agent encountered the man while conducting official duties, agent Dave Couvertier said in a statement.

...

"He used to talk on the phone with him [Tsarnaev]," Taramov said of his friend. "They talked last time a month ago. After the bombing, I couldn't believe it," he said.

"The FBI kept asking, 'What's the connection?' But there is no connection... no connection."

Taramov said the victim had planned to return to Chechnya but had canceled his tickets.

"Me and him and my friends, we knew this was going to happen. That's why he wanted to leave the country," Taramov said. "But he canceled the tickets. The FBI's been pushing him, 'Don't leave, don't leave.' So he decided to stay," he said.

Taramov said the FBI had questioned him earlier Tuesday, but he was allowed to leave. When he returned, he said he found out his friend had been shot dead, he said.

"The FBI knows what happened," Taramov said.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/22382085/fbi-agent-shoots-man-dead-in-orlando#ixzz2U1Ilpfza

green73
05-22-2013, 05:39 AM
hmmmmmmmm

green73
05-22-2013, 05:42 AM
Damn, I sent it to Drudge people only to find out it's already there. There goes my cred!

Warlord
05-22-2013, 05:53 AM
That's where I saw it.

He's a conspiracy theorist. Destroy him!

Weston White
05-22-2013, 06:00 AM
That is a bit hard to follow. Is that article alleging that the FBI was possibly working with the brothers prior to the bombing and that they all knew something was up or they were being setup and planning on leaving America but then the present (unfortunate) chain of events unfolded? And now in Florida another of their friends has been killed by the FBI?

jkr
05-22-2013, 06:17 AM
DEAD MEN TELL NO...BANG

Lucille
05-22-2013, 07:47 AM
Shooting. Strange.
http://www.backwoodshome.com/blogs/ClaireWolfe/2013/05/22/shooting-strange/


I know this is breaking news, which means it’s subject to every error and wild speculation. But this is weird.

The FBI is “questioning” a man (and apparently has him in their custody and control, according to another person they were also “questioning”). They’ve gone to the man’s apartment in the middle of the night (or “Wednesday morning after midnight” in the Orwellian way these things are put now).

And after some substantial long time of having control over him for this “questioning,” they kill him? They shoot him to death?

Yeah. Weird.

Name was Ibragim Todashev. Friend of Boston bomber Tamarlan Tsarnaev.

Mr.NoSmile
05-22-2013, 07:58 AM
What this affiliate apparently left out is that the victim allegedly tried to attack one of the officers. Whether that's true, I'm unsure, but there are varying details:


FBI agents were questioning Ibragim Todashev regarding his connection to the dead bombing suspect. At some point during the interview, the man allegedly went to attack an agent who then shot and killed him, according to the FBI.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/#208460481

pcosmar
05-22-2013, 07:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf-Amvro2SY

PSYOP
05-22-2013, 07:59 AM
Nothing to see here folks -- we're from the government and we're just trying to protect you!

thoughtomator
05-22-2013, 08:11 AM
What this affiliate apparently left out is that the victim allegedly tried to attack one of the officers. Whether that's true, I'm unsure, but there are varying details:

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/#208460481

Pretty much standard M.O. for LEO ass-covering when they kill someone.

Cleaner44
05-22-2013, 08:22 AM
I notice that the FBI doesn't claim the victim pulled a gun or anything, just that he got violent. It sounds like maybe the FBI were no longer welcome in the man's home, but they apparently didn't want to leave.

Lesson:
DON'T TALK TO COPS

fisharmor
05-22-2013, 08:56 AM
My Peruvian carpool buddy was asking me this morning what "take the fifth" means, in relation to the IRS scandal.
I explained it, and followed it up with "But if you remember, they JUST GOT DONE telling us about how they gunned down a suspect in the street, RIGHT BEFORE TALKING ABOUT TAKING THE FIFTH. So you see, Paco, the fifth amendment doesn't mean shit anyway, if you never even make it to a courtroom."

I also verified with him that shit like this doesn't happen in Peru.....

sailingaway
05-22-2013, 09:27 AM
Boston Bombing: Friend Of Bombers Shot Dead This Morning In Florida -


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bqpreShnfHw#t=0s

http://www.westernjournalism.com/boston-bombing-friend-of-bombers-shot-dead-this-morning-in-florida/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

pcosmar
05-22-2013, 09:30 AM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?415202-Clean-up-operation-FBI-kill-someone-who-knew-Boston-bomber

Thanks for the video. ;)

sailingaway
05-22-2013, 09:31 AM
I DID look!!! Oh well, first I'll add the BBC link where the FBI says he was an imminent threat -- think through THAT justification and what it would allow -- then I'll merge the threads. Mind you, maybe he pulled a weapon, but if it was just because of future capability, I think that standard is out of line.

Boston bomb investigators kill Florida man

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22627923#TWEET764747


The shooting took place early on Wednesday as law enforcement personnel interviewed 27-year-old Ibragim Todashev, according to officials.

FBI spokesman Paul Bresson said in a statement an FBI agent shot Todashev because of an "imminent threat".

The FBI agent was taken to a hospital with non-life threatening injuries.

US media reported that Todashev had known Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the Boston bombings suspect killed in a shootout with police days after last month's deadly marathon blasts.

Todashev was a mixed-martial arts fighters who, like Tsarnaev, had links to the Russian republic of Chechnya, according to reports.


Ibragim Todashev was arrested this month after a row over a parking spot
FBI spokesman Dave Couvertier said in a statement: "The agent encountered the suspect while conducting official duties.

"The suspect is deceased. We do not have any further details at this time."

better-dead-than-fed
05-22-2013, 10:38 AM
... the victim allegedly tried to attack one of the officers. Whether that's true, I'm unsure

One thing you can be sure about is FBI policy of not recording their encounters with people. http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/letters/2013/05/15/fbi-abuses-its-power-refusing-record-interviews/S2Umml1z4mJzzNiQLAlRVP/story.html.

jclay2
05-22-2013, 10:44 AM
Is there anyone now who doesn't believe the Boston bombing was a false flag? This is just getting absurd.

Zippyjuan
05-22-2013, 12:40 PM
What this affiliate apparently left out is that the victim allegedly tried to attack one of the officers. Whether that's true, I'm unsure, but there are varying details:



http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/#208460481

Apparently one of the officers was sent to the hospital.

(Reuters) - An FBI agent shot and killed a Florida man who turned violent while being questioned about the Boston Marathon bombings early on Wednesday, the bureau said.

A friend of the dead man identified him as 27-year-old Ibragim Todashev of Orlando, a Chechen who had previously lived in Boston, the Orlando Sentinel and Orlando television stations reported. Two brothers named by the FBI as suspects in the April 15 bombings were also ethnic Chechens with roots in Russia's volatile North Caucasus region.

The FBI said in a statement that a special agent, "acting on the imminent threat posed by the individual, responded with deadly force. The individual was killed and the special agent was transported to the hospital with non-life-threatening injuries."

It said the shooting occurred in Orlando, Florida, while the special agent and other law enforcement agents, including two Massachusetts State Police officers, were interviewing the man about the blasts that killed three people and injured 264 others at the finish line of the Boston Marathon.

"A violent confrontation was initiated by the individual," the FBI said, without providing further details.

Todashev's friend, Khusn Taramiv, said Todashev knew bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev because both were mixed martial-arts fighters but had no connection to the bombing.

"Back when he used to live in Boston, right, they used to hang out," Taramiv told Central Florida News 13. "He met them few times 'cause he was MMA fighter the other guy was boxer, right. They just knew each other, that's it."

The shooting occurred at an Orlando apartment complex where several people of Chechen descent lived. Taramiv said Todashev and others in the complex had been questioned several times by law enforcement agents since the day the Tsarnaev brothers were identified as the bombing suspects.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, died in a gunfight with police. His brother, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, was found hiding in a boat in Watertown, Massachusetts, four days after the bombings. He was charged with crimes that could carry the death penalty if he is convicted.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev had been on a U.S. government database of potential terrorism suspects and the United States had twice been warned by Russia that he might be an Islamic militant, according to U.S. security officials.

In Florida, the Orange County Sheriff's Office said Todashev had been arrested on May 4 and charged with aggravated battery with great bodily harm after getting into a fight with another man over a parking space at an Orlando shopping mall.

Police said they arrested Todashev as he was leaving the scene and found a man lying on the ground near a "considerable" amount of blood.

Todashev told police the other man came at him swinging and the two started fighting. "Todashev said he was only fighting to protect his knee because he had surgery in March," the report said.

The man, who suffered a split upper lip and had several teeth knocked out of place, did not to press charges against Todashev, who was released from jail on a $3,500 bond, a sheriff's spokeswoman said.

Another neighbor, who asked not to be identified, said Todashev was frequently seen shadow boxing as he jogged around the small lakes that dotted the apartment complex where he lived two blocks from the Universal Orlando theme park.


This report says he lunged at them with a knife- stabbing the agent interviewing him. They knew he was in Mixed Martial Arts.

http://news.yahoo.com/fbi-man-fatally-shot-boston-bombing-probe-133513948.html

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — A Chechen immigrant was shot to death by authorities while being questioned in the Boston Marathon bombing case early Wednesday after he lunged at an FBI agent with a knife, officials said.

Ibragim Todashev, a 27-year-old mixed martial arts fighter, was gunned down at his home during a meeting with the agent and two Massachusetts state troopers, authorities said. The agent was taken to a hospital with injuries that were not life-threatening.

The FBI gave no details on why they were interested in Todashev. But acquaintances said Todashev knew one of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, from mixed martial arts fighting in Boston. Public records also show Todashev lived in Watertown, Mass., just outside Boston, last year.

green73
05-23-2013, 07:21 AM
via Drudge,
Officials back off account of FBI agent


An FBI incident review team from Washington, D.C., is in Orlando today, a day after a Russian man who knew Boston Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev was shot dead by an agent.

Federal and Central Florida law enforcement agencies are still collecting and processing evidence from the shooting scene at a condominium complex on Peregrine Avenue, near Kirkman Road and Universal Orlando, where Ibragim Todashev was shot early Wednesday.

Initially, FBI officials said Todashev, 27, became violent and lunged at an agent with a knife while he was being questioned about Tsarnaev and an unsolved 2011 triple murder in the Boston suburb of Waltham. The agent, acting on an "imminent threat," then shot Todashev, they said.

Sources say Todashev, a Russian national living legally in Florida, was about to confess to the Waltham slaying when the shooting took place.

However, officials have backed off that preliminary account, and it's no longer clear what happened in the moments before the fatal shooting.


cont
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/22403812/fbi-shooting-orlando-moments-before-fatal-shooting-of-ibragim-todashev-still-unclear

pcosmar
05-23-2013, 07:32 AM
This report says he lunged at them with a knife- stabbing the agent interviewing him.


Paper cuts from writing and rewriting the report?

Warlord
05-23-2013, 08:29 AM
via Drudge,
Officials back off account of FBI agent



cont
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/22403812/fbi-shooting-orlando-moments-before-fatal-shooting-of-ibragim-todashev-still-unclear

Sorry... Zippyjuan and the MSM has already accepted the initial reports. CASE CLOSED!

jtstellar
05-23-2013, 12:20 PM
i don't know.. i'm someone who's known to stay away from unconfirmed theories but to couple this with the irs scandal, benghazi, ap and fox reporter probe, there might be something to this. the guy may have turned violent, but it's possible someone was hoping he would as well,

who knows if there wasn't another scandal in all of this ready to blow and i can imagine someone really trying to stop the tsunami wave of scandals right now. couple this with adam kokesh's pre-emptive arrest too and this all seems to be happening on the 'law enforcement' side

better-dead-than-fed
05-23-2013, 01:31 PM
i don't know.. i'm someone who's known to stay away from unconfirmed theories...

I try to stay away from unconfirmed theories too, but when it's confirmed that the government has deliberately destroyed evidence (or deliberately refused to record encounters in the first place, as in this case), I take the destruction of evidence as an offense worse than whatever they might be trying to cover up. If you want to avoid speculation and stick to the facts, there's still the fact that the FBI deliberately refused to record the encounter with Todashev, knowing this would obstruct investigation.