PDA

View Full Version : Why only 1,600 pledges for Rudy's Reading List?




RCA
11-25-2007, 09:12 PM
I just pledged for the November 30th money bomb and posted a message to my Meetup's message board. Why are we having a hard time garnering support for this?

:confused:

LibertyEagle
11-25-2007, 09:15 PM
People don't like to be jerked around?

Thrice
11-25-2007, 09:16 PM
I already signed up for December 16th and I'd rather donate on that day, though I'll be donating smaller amounts up until then. I really don't want to pledge to donate in an event titled "Rudysreadinglist." I'll support Paul because of his own merits, not Rudy's lack of them.

chandlerLBT
11-25-2007, 09:17 PM
it's a controversial day to say the least. :]

TechnoGuyRob
11-25-2007, 09:18 PM
(1) It won't generate lots of media attention or be record breaking.
(2) It's a last minute change of plans; people like to stick with things.
(3) It doesn't use any significant date or event.
(4) It hasn't had national promotion.
etc.

me3
11-25-2007, 09:18 PM
People don't like to be jerked around?
WWRPD?

jenius
11-25-2007, 09:19 PM
I might donate, but not if it means I'm going to have to split up the donation I'm planning for the Tea Party.

Benaiah
11-25-2007, 09:20 PM
I just pledged for the November 30th money bomb and posted a message to my Meetup's message board. Why are we having a hard time garnering support for this?

:confused:


Because there was a general consensus that the 16th was going to be the last and final money bomb.

LibertyEagle
11-25-2007, 09:20 PM
WWRPD?

About what?

MrCoffee
11-25-2007, 09:20 PM
Nov 30 really isn't that big of a consequence. Trevor wasn't trying to sabotage Dec16th, just get the campaign some money before then. I don't think the campaign really cares if it all comes in a trickle or on the 30th.

The beauty of the money bomb is that it gets people to donate that otherwise wouldn't, and in amounts they might not otherwise consider. People LIKE being a part of something BIG.

AlexMerced
11-25-2007, 09:21 PM
1600 pledges is pretty good on such short notice, + the goal is to hit 12mil by the end of the we the 30th will mainly just be a push to make up the difference so we can capitalize on all the attention to RP's goal gotten this week on Bloomberg and such.

Menthol Patch
11-25-2007, 09:24 PM
Lets do what it takes to get more pledges!

skilt
11-25-2007, 09:24 PM
It's the free market

Politeia
11-25-2007, 09:25 PM
I just pledged for the November 30th money bomb and posted a message to my Meetup's message board. Why are we having a hard time garnering support for this?

See here (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=40429).

brumans
11-25-2007, 09:27 PM
I already signed up for December 16th.. can't afford to do both.

RCA
11-25-2007, 09:27 PM
We need to strive for 10,000 pledges by Thurday night!

PatriotOne
11-25-2007, 09:29 PM
Nov 30th will probably be a 2M day as it is.

More peeps will donate than has signed up in the heat of the moment/day.

Regular donations coming in will probably already have RP at 10M by the 30th.

I think he'll hit the 12M mark without much more effort.

Flirple
11-25-2007, 09:29 PM
Yeah I think the 30th is shaping up nicely. I think we should be setting our goals in the hundreds of thousands instead of the millions. We just need this day to provide a healthy bump in fund raising while doing nothing to diminish the 16th.

AlexMerced
11-25-2007, 09:29 PM
lol, I would recommend just getting to word out for poeple to hit 12 mil by the 30th, the only way we can get media attnetion out of this is to hit the 12 mil goal, and the only way the 12 mil goal can be newsworthy is if we hit it before december.

us hitting that goal will become a yardstick by which all candidates are measured which will get more than weeks worth of media attention launching us right into the teaparty.

njandrewg
11-25-2007, 09:32 PM
Well I would go with:
1-People realize that the Dec 16th will be historic, while Nov 30th won't even be a blip on media's radar
2-They realize that its better to give $200 on Dec 16th than to split it between 2 days
3-They realize that there's been almost 0 notice regarding Nov 30th, and they've already committed to Dec 16th.


The whole "the campaign is hurting for money" is an overreach. They have $9 million + $5 million from last quarter COH, donations continue to come in at an ok pace, so they have plenty of money to wait for the 16th, on top of waiting for all that free publicity. I mean even Romney spent only $7mm per month in the last quarter, and the campaign isn't hemmaroging money like his does.

RCA
11-25-2007, 09:35 PM
The grassroots goal should be to reach 12 million by the 30th, it doesn't matter HOW we do it, we just NEED to do it. I think pledging for the bomb on the 30th and informing your Meetup is a start.

me3
11-25-2007, 09:36 PM
Well I would go with:
1-People realize that the Dec 16th will be historic, while Nov 30th won't even be a blip on media's radar
It's not about the day or a bomb. It's about breaking $12 million, the campaign's quarter goal.


3-They realize that there's been almost 0 notice regarding Nov 30th, and they've already committed to Dec 16th.
Monday, promotion for 11/30 is going to take off. How many pledges will it bring? Dunno. But resources are being committed to this.


I mean even Romney spent only $7mm per month in the last quarter, and the campaign isn't hemmaroging money like his does.
He also had months of massive spending as a head start, and loads of free face time and publicity. An underdog is already naturally disadvantaged in a fight, without having to show up to a duel with a 6 shooter and 3 bullets.

AlexMerced
11-25-2007, 09:40 PM
It's not about the day or a bomb. It's about breaking $12 million, the campaign's quarter goal.


Monday, promotion for 11/30 is going to take off. How many pledges will it bring? Dunno. But resources are being committed to this.


He also had months of massive spending as a head start, and loads of free face time and publicity. An underdog is already naturally disadvantaged in a fight, without having to show up to a duel with a 6 shooter and 3 bullets.

let's just hit the 12 mil goal, doesn't matter what day you donate, long as it's before dec. 1st, the 30th will just be a last minute rush to bridge the gap.

RCA
11-25-2007, 09:41 PM
What gets me is the same nay-sayers that disliked the 5th, also disliked the 11th and surprisingly NOW dislike the 30th. Yet, on both the 5th and the 11th, those same people were like "WOW, look at Ron Paul Graphs!", "We should get a nice bump TODAY!", etc. When are you people going to realize that money bombs have TRANSFORMED POLITICAL FUND-RAISING AS WE KNOW IT!

AlexMerced
11-25-2007, 09:52 PM
either way, I think hitting 12 mil goal is something we can all get behind

James R
11-25-2007, 09:56 PM
There are only two paychecks between Nov 30th and December 16th. I'd rather just donate on Dec 16th only, and encourage others to focus on December 16th. The reason November 30th came about is a campaign request for immediate money. But the best response to that is sending them money immediately rather than threatening the Dec 16th event with another money bomb.

amonasro
11-25-2007, 10:00 PM
I'll donate on the 30th, I just haven't signed up yet. The 16th is the day I'm really excited about though. It's too late to change it now, and it has been for awhile.

derdy
11-25-2007, 10:06 PM
I just pledged for the November 30th money bomb and posted a message to my Meetup's message board. Why are we having a hard time garnering support for this?

:confused:

I'm broke. :(

AlexMerced
11-25-2007, 10:18 PM
broke people can still spread the word, I can't donate 100 but if I can get 4 others people to, I still did my part.

me3
11-25-2007, 10:28 PM
Good point A.M.

derdy, talk to your crew! :)

AlexMerced
11-25-2007, 10:33 PM
there's ways of doing, like if you can fix cars, offer tune ups for RP donations and such, it's a competing currency.

Naraku
11-25-2007, 10:39 PM
I think this is gonna be a success. I think the pledges won't get that high, but what I think will happen is a lot of money gets raised early in the day, bringing the meter up to $11 million or close to it and the campaign puts out an e-mail basically saying "Let's get to $12 million today!" and then a whole bunch of people donate thus exceeding the goal.

However, it needs to be made achievable. There needs to be some buildup, which hopefully the YouTube debate and Monday will help. If $10 million can be beat by November 30th then reaching $12 million is quite possible.

fletcher
11-25-2007, 10:39 PM
If I donate before the 16th I will be sure it is NOT on November 30th.

RPFTW!
11-25-2007, 10:43 PM
I didn't realize 'Rudy's Reading List' was a donation drive until I read this.

Midnight77
11-25-2007, 10:44 PM
I'm not expecting more than $300,000 for this one. Just being realistic.

derdy
11-25-2007, 10:47 PM
Good point A.M.

derdy, talk to your crew! :)

well our meetup is having two yard sales next weekend. as far as my non meetup friends, they are all poor.

there's literally nothing I can do to donate anything before the 16th. I have a student loan I have to pay on, my credit card I have to pay off, and more bills as the beginning of the month rolls in.

AlexMerced
11-25-2007, 10:47 PM
If I donate before the 16th I will be sure it is NOT on November 30th.

then donate on the 29th :)

Naraku
11-25-2007, 10:51 PM
I'm not expecting more than $300,000 for this one. Just being realistic.

I don't think that's realistic at all. Completely off the cuff supporters were able to generate $250,000 in half a day. Surely with a week's preparation and planning it should be far more. I think $500,000 at least assuming only the same level of support last week had. If the campaign sends out an e-mail asking to beat $12 million by the end of the day around halfway through then there'll be a big boom and it quite possibly will be met.